If Jesus returns in 2030

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I find it incredulous that anyone would think that animal sacrifice for sin could occur in the 21st Century.

Israel is a democracy and has a different legal system to the 1st Century.

Israel has a population of over 10 million people so how could millions of animal sacrifices, take place
at the temple for that population.

Something is seriously wrong with this idea that the temple will be rebuilt and animal sacrifices take place.

If the Bible says it, then it will happen.

People didn't believe Noah, but the flood came anyway, right? So will everything the Bible says that you don't believe.


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[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

The 6th trumpet happens as the religion of Islam rebels against their system because they are hindering their fundamental beliefs and saying there is no personal God.

3 sections of the world are plucked up by the roots describing nuclear weapons causing one third of the world to perish.

And Islam is done.

You know, I used to think the kings of the East meant far east and south east Asians, but now I think you are right that the kings of the east are actually the islamic kings of the middle east.


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[Inquisitor]

If the Bible says it, then it will happen.

If and only if, the Bible says that the temple will be rebuilt and it's not a misunderstanding of the text.

Why would Israel rebuild an ancient temple on the temple mount?

I hope your theology is not using the prophet Daniel to support that idea?

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

If and only if, the Bible says that the temple will be rebuilt and it's not a misunderstanding of the text.

Why would Israel rebuild an ancient temple on the temple mount?

I hope your theology is not using the prophet Daniel to support that idea?

Believe whatever you want. It's not going to affect Bible prophecy coming true.


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[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

You know, I used to think the kings of the East meant far east and south east Asians, but now I think you are right that the kings of the east are actually the islamic kings of the middle east.


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Not even realistic. China is becoming a super power in military might. They will move into and overwhelm west Asia (middle east) when the time comes. They will even have an unopposed land bridge through Afghanistan into Iran.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Not even realistic. China is becoming a super power in military might. They will move into and overwhelm west Asia (middle east) when the time comes. They will even have an unopposed land bridge through Afghanistan into Iran.

I used to think that, but the middle east kings have more invested interests in this than the Asians do. They have prophecies they want coming to pass, but the antichrist will be seen as getting in the way of that. Thus their reason for fighting the antichrist.

If anything, China will just probably try to take Taiwan when no one's looking.


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[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I used to think that, but the middle east kings have more invested interests in this than the Asians do. They have prophecies they want coming to pass, but the antichrist will be seen as getting in the way of that. Thus their reason for fighting the antichrist.

If anything, China will just probably try to take Taiwan when no one's looking.


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Iran supplies around 15% of China's oil. The US wants to stop that, but China will not allow it

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Iran supplies around 15% of China's oil. The US wants to stop that, but China will not allow it

I think in the grand scheme of things, far east and south east Asia will just sit in the sidelines and not be major players in the Biblical conflict with the antichrist.

But China and North Korea can still wreak havoc among the far east and south east countries. The Bible is just always silent about that area.

So I'm always praying that more of us get saved over there. We need Jesus just as much as everybody else.


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[Pilgrimshope]

Don't believe it then.


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Man this place has become fickle quite a biblical discussion forum….

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Iran supplies around 15% of China's oil. The US wants to stop that, but China will not allow it

Indeed and they are getting it at massively discounted rates

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I find it incredulous that anyone would think that animal sacrifice for sin could occur in the 21st Century.

Israel is a democracy and has a different legal system to the 1st Century.

Israel has a population of over 10 million people so how could millions of animal sacrifices, take place
at the temple for that population.

Something is seriously wrong with this idea that the temple will be rebuilt and animal sacrifices take place.

Indeed as well as no apostle ever teaching them it was going to happen . Or Jesus never mentioning it happening in the gospel. Or not acknowledging that the entire purposes for the sacrificial system in the ot is completely gone away because Jesus is the only actual atoning sacrifice , Passover sacrifice , sin sacrifice , scapegoat sacrifice , daily spotless lamb sacrifice ect ect ect why would God resurrect a system of patterns when Christ has come with reality ? Why would we make another. Holding for the priests when he’s already in the true temple as the true priest in heaven ? Makes no sense to me either it sort of makes no sense if you read the New Testament actually ….

The idea is based on the blessings he was telling israel would happen if they repented and obeyed him … and not the corees they brought to pass by defiling and breaking his covenant

your last point there makes me wonder if it’s part of an end time deception …..

 

[Inquisitor]

Iran supplies around 15% of China's oil. The US wants to stop that, but China will not allow it

China is the largest buyer of Iranian oil, importing an estimated 1.38 to 1.46 million barrels per day (bpd)
as of early 2026. This volume accounts for over 80% to 90% of Iran’s total oil exports and represents
roughly 10%–13% of China's total crude oil imports. (Google)

 

[Burn1986]

I am convinced that Jesus will return 2,000 years after His Ascension. Since Jesus was crucified and ascended into heaven in the year 30 CE, this implies that He will return in 2030. More precisely, I believe that Jesus will return on Yom Teruah (the Feast of Trumpets) in 2030. In the Gregorian calendar, this corresponds to September 30, 2030.

Since Jesus is to return at the end of the Beast's 3.5-year reign, this means that the Beast's reign will begin 3.5 years prior to Jesus' return on Yom Teruah in 2030. Three and a half years before Yom Teruah 2030 would be the month of Sivan (the third month of the biblical calendar) in 2027. In the Gregorian calendar, this corresponds to June 2027.

Therefore, if it is true that Jesus will return on September 30, 2030, then it follows that the Beast's reign must begin no later than June 2027. If the world has not changed dramatically by June 2027, then one can conclude that Jesus will not return in 2030.

CE? You mean AD, right? So if I believe 2030, I should take out a big loan in 2029? There’s probably a reason God didn’t let us know when. If you right though, I’m getting that $10K dirt bike I’ve been wanting. But I’ll probably buy it in 2028 and at least ride it for a few years before we go. Maybe I can defer payments.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

CE? You mean AD, right? So if I believe 2030, I should take out a big loan in 2029? There’s probably a reason God didn’t let us know when. If you right though, I’m getting that $10K dirt bike I’ve been wanting. But I’ll probably buy it in 2028 and at least ride it for a few years before we go. Maybe I can defer payments.

When the antichrist makes that agreement with many and the Jews will be allowed to make daily sacrifices once again, those markers show you have 3-1/2 years before the antichrist desecrates the 3rd temple and declares himself a god with the mark of the beast soon to follow after.

So I think that would be a good time to finance your $10K dirt bike! Just make sure the deal lets you pay at the very lowest amount. Although you'll probably lose the bike when you no longer have the ability to buy or sell when you refuse the mark. But at least you'd gotten some fun use out of riding it!


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[Inquisitor]

When the antichrist makes that agreement with many and the Jews will be allowed to make daily sacrifices once again, those markers show you have 3-1/2 years before the antichrist desecrates the 3rd temple and declares himself a god with the mark of the beast soon to follow after.

What scripture are you basing this prediction on?

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

What scripture are you basing this prediction on?

It's a waste of time sharing scripture with you, honestly.

You've supposedly have God and the Bible so many years and you don't know?

Spend time with God to study The Bible together with Him if you really want to know.


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[NightTwister]

I'm convinced of this too, but maybe He ascended on AD 33, no 30, which means the Great Tribulation will be from 2030 to 2033.

Dates! I love dates!

 

[Yahshua]

Jesus was not crucified in 33 CE, but in 30 CE, and I can prove this irrefutably:
Bible reports:

• that Jesus was born before Herod died (Matt 2:20)
• that Jesus began his ministry at the age of 30, when he was baptized in the 15th year of Tiberius' reign (Lk 3:1, 21-23)
• that Jesus celebrated the first Passover of his ministry when the Herodian Temple was under construction for 46 years (Jhn 2:18-23)
• that Jesus celebrated a total of 3 or 4 Passovers during his ministry (Dan 9:27; Jhn 2:13, 5:1, 6:4, 11:55)
• that Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate, the governor of Judea (Matt 27:2)
• that Jesus was crucified on Friday, Nisan 14 (Mk 15:42; Jhn 19:14)
• that Jesus was crucified a full 40 years before the destruction of Jerusalem (Jon 3:4; Eusebius' Church History 3.7.9; Yoma 39b:5)

History reports:

• that Herod died in March 4 BCE, which means that Jesus was born before March 4 BCE
• that Tiberius' 15th year of reign was from 26 to 27 CE or from 27 to 28 CE (his co-princeps began in 12 or 13 CE), which means that Jesus was baptized sometime between 26 and 28 CE
• that the Herodian Temple was under construction for 46 years in 27 or 28 CE (it began in 20 or 19 BCE), which means that Jesus celebrated the first Passover of his ministry in 27 or 28 CE
• that Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea from 26 to 36 CE, which means that Jesus was crucified sometime between 26 and 36 CE
• that between 28 and 33 CE, Nisan 14 fell on Friday only in 30 and 33 CE, which means that Jesus was crucified in 30 or 33 CE
• that the siege of Jerusalem started on Nisan 14, 70 CE, and ended with the destruction of Jerusalem in Tammuz/Av of the same year, which means that Jesus was crucified in 30 CE

Conclusions:

• since Jesus was crucified a full 40 years before the destruction of Jerusalem (30 CE) on Friday, Nisan 14 (30 or 33 CE), he was crucified on Nisan 14, 30 CE

I like this. Actual bible study. What if I told you John 6:4 was added by folks who wanted to force a 3.5yr ministry doctrine?

Eusebius of Caesarea added John 6:4 to insert another "Passover" into the account to extend Jesus’ ministry from seventy-sevens (490 days) to three and a half years to fulfill the 70th week of Daniel prophecy (which it doesn't need, as you know).

But the account of John itself disproves the added text because each time "passover/feast of the Jews was neigh" in all of John, a perfectly obedient Messiah made his way to Jerusalem...except for John 6:4. The Messiah stayed where he was, not even acknowledging it. Also He feeds the multitude leavened bread (artos) rather than unleavened bread (matzo) not even honoring the feast from afar. If john 6:4 is a valid Passover, the Messiah is a lawbreaker.

Also, yearlings had to be used for the Passover sacrifice (Exodus 12:5). Sheep around 3yrs old were too old. If the Messiah was crucified after 3.5 yrs it also makes His sacrifice a violation of the law.

So His ministry wasn't 3.5 yrs.

 

[Lovette]

Also, yearlings had to be used for the Passover sacrifice (Exodus 12:5). Sheep around 3yrs old were too old. If the Messiah was crucified after 3.5 yrs it also makes His sacrifice a violation of the law.

So His ministry wasn't 3.5 yrs.

And yet 30 plus year old is young enough?

 

[Lovette]

Not even realistic. China is becoming a super power in military might. They will move into and overwhelm west Asia (middle east) when the time comes. They will even have an unopposed land bridge through Afghanistan into Iran.

China is a paper tiger, they have almost zero combat experience in any foreign soil for over 40 years, and their population is aging faster than Japan or Korea. Russia was assumed to be a super power in military might, how have they been faring in Ukraine? There was no natural barrier between Russia and Ukraine, it was a vast plain, and yet Russia failed to "overwhelm" Ukraine.