If there is a heaven why not suicide?

[Dough57]

I know this is a morbid topic, but still, to a person that has lost everything slowly bit by bit, is past mid life with no one in their life, no job, lives in a motel 6 untill his last $2k is gone and, worse, has no idea of even what or where to go for the rest of his life...why not suicide. I have been a Christian 8 years and went from living ina tent to making over $100K to having nothing again. Not by gambling, not by drugs, etc, etc. It is just gone and I am heading to the tent again but aT 54 I just don't see what the purpose would be of trying. My kids look at me wwith pity and maybe shame. Our success and comfort on earth is not promised but heaven is. My hopes and dreams were just around the corner for 35 yrs now, well, I just don't have it any more to hope.My faith is God will feed me and give me my needs but I grow so weary of livng in my truck or motel 6 amd coupled with the lack of even have goals now...well.

 

[Adrianv125]

Brother in Christ. I do not understand your pain at all, and it breaks my heart to read your story. It's really moved me. But you are right about one thing brother, though on this earth we may have nothing to glory ourselves about or nothing we can show to anyone as an accomplishment, you have overcome something that most of the world hasn't overcome, you have overcome death through Jesus Christ! And He has overcome this world. This world is only a shadow of what reality is. The true reality lies within the tabernacle of God, and we are promised thanks to the blood of Jesus entrance to His dwelling place for all of eternity, and this is our hope, peace, and joy. But let's speak about the short time that you have left on this earth. Though you have no material thing or some days may not even have a piece of bread, you do have the Holy Spirit in you and He wants to be glorified in the life of every believer. And though I know that there is no words of encouragement I could ever give you because I have never been in your shoes, all I can say is that He is more powerful than He who is in this world and that though everything else is missing in our lives, He is Lord over everything since everything was made through Him and for Him. He created it all with the words of His mouth, and so thanks to Jesus we are called His sons, and we are co-heirs with Christ because He has called us His brothers. Brother, don't lose your hope in your salvation. Resist through the power of the Holy Spirit and ask Him to use you in any way He can. I'm sure that if you yield to Him He will work through you, all it takes is faith.

God bless you brother, you will be in my prayers.

 

[Cheekygrin]

You mentioned that you have children. I don't have any great personal conviction against what you are talking about in terms of sin. Rather more about honor and caring for those around you. My question is about how that action would affect others? If you can take that into consideration and realize that the repercussions of your actions may cause harm then I am sure you will see that there is another way. What a great place to be once you change your perspective though! Loving not your life even unto death. There is such power in that place when you are not held by the having or not having of the things of this world. You can set your sights on the things of true value. Be a living example of one who no longer lives because Christ lives in you instead. When we take our focus off ourselves and put it on God, everything else starts to be revealed as it should be.

These have been my personal reflections on this thought worthy subject. Hope it gives you some thoughts to consider. Good luck.

 

[djness]

I know this is a morbid topic, but still, to a person that has lost everything slowly bit by bit, is past mid life with no one in their life, no job, lives in a motel 6 untill his last $2k is gone and, worse, has no idea of even what or where to go for the rest of his life...why not suicide. I have been a Christian 8 years and went from living ina tent to making over $100K to having nothing again. Not by gambling, not by drugs, etc, etc. It is just gone and I am heading to the tent again but aT 54 I just don't see what the purpose would be of trying. My kids look at me wwith pity and maybe shame. Our success and comfort on earth is not promised but heaven is. My hopes and dreams were just around the corner for 35 yrs now, well, I just don't have it any more to hope.My faith is God will feed me and give me my needs but I grow so weary of livng in my truck or motel 6 amd coupled with the lack of even have goals now...well.

I actually just said the following in response to a different post but I think it is applicable here to.

As terrible as our trials may seem sometimes I have learned that when somone else is going through a difficult situation and comes to you for help you at least you have something to say other then " I have no idea sorry".
It may not seem like it at the time but when you can help somone who is going through something you went through, it brings you great peace with that difficult time.

You have been struggling for a long time and I am deeply sorrowful for your situation. I hope you do not decide to take your life.

 

[pickles]

Many years ago I had been given the news that the rest of my life would always be filled with severe pain.
I struggled for a time, partly because I could not see any more a life like this.
I can only say that the two things that helped me to keep from making the descision to end all, was my family, and more, Jesus.
The next few years were not easy, I had to recive in faith and obedience that which is given in Jesus.
Trusting each day to Jesus for the streangth to continue.
That was 20 years ago.
I am so greatful that I chose to remain faithful to Him.
I still live with pain, but this pain is not my life, the life I live in Jesus provides all that is needed to live fully and with joy the love that is Jesus's gift.
No matter how great the suffering or darkness, when one trusts in Jesus, it is not about what, or how long it takes.
It is about Jesus being faithful to ones obedience and hope in Him.
He will bring all that is trully worth living for, and fill your life with what trully is good!
As one that faced this choice, I witness to you in Jesus, you will rejoice in Jesus for placing all your hope in Him, and know, it is worth it to keep going in faith, no matter what!
You are in my prayers in Jesus Christ is Lord, that you will know through faith, His greatness and His love, that you may delight in all that is the salvation in Jesus.
His salvation begins today, not on the day you die!

In the love of Jesus, God bless.
pickles

 

[Psalm2713]

Because God is not finished with you on Earth... He has a plan and a purpose...always... Jeremiah 29:11 and I saiah 61...
God loves you and so do I,
Maggie

 

[wwjd_kilden]

I agree with what the others have said.

Also, although it might sound like a clichè, God normally has a way of turning suffering, or part of it, into something good.
Not necessarily meaning he will take it away, but that after some time, when looking back, maybe something good came out of it.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-GPbYcTDbQ[/video]

 

[AnandaHya]

because suicide is paramount to witchcraft and rebellion because you take what is to be God's power to determine when a person lives or dies and listen to your own fears and self despair instead of God's will.

King Saul is an example of suicide in the Bible.

 

[choZn]

I just finished a Bible study that spoke of the suicidal states of Jonah and Elijah- 2 outstanding biblical characters. Both felt much the same way you do, but for different reasons. (Jonah 4 and 1 Kings 19) God met them in the depths of their despair and turned their sorrow into strength and encouragement.
Christ lived His life knowing He would someday give it for you, for me, and millions of others. He gave it. He didn't TAKE it. His was, and forever will be, the only righteous life sacrifice. He knew He had a purpose to fulfill. So do you. Put your energies toward fulfilling your God given purpose and you will be blessed beyond your imagination.
Have you hit rock bottom? Look around- God is there. You are not alone. Cry out to Him. Reach out to Him. Pour out your disappointments, hurts, and give to Him your broken dreams and the shattered pieces of your life. I guaruntee you, He will make a masterpiece out of what you only see as trash. He created you and He is proud of His creation. He loves you. He LOVES you! HE LOVES YOU!!
I will lift you in my prayers often. I have faith that God has great things in store for you.

 

[jimmydiggs]

I would add ontop, that suicide is rebellion against God.

It denies him the use of that which is his.

you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

 

[dmdave17]

Dear Dough57,

I read your message when you first posted it and felt sorry for you, but I didn't think I could answer your question. Since then God has laid it on my heart to respond to you so here goes. (I sometimes tend to ramble, maybe a function of my age , so please bear with me.)

I was reading a devotional yesterday morning, written by Dr. Charles Stanley, Senior Pastor of First Baptist Church in Atlanta and founder of In Touch Ministries, and I came across this sentence, "...if you're still alive, God isn't done with you yet." I immediately thought of you. Later on in my reading, I came across Romans 8, verse 28, which says "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

I know things may seem bleak and hopeless right now, but I also know that it isn't God's fault. God loves you unquestionably! In Romans 8:38-39, Paul said, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." God wants the best for you, just as he wants the best for all of His children.

You do not supply some details about your situation. When things were going well with you, how did you earn a living? Do you have any skills? Did you have a trade or career? How did you end up as you are? That is insignificant in the larger picture, but there may be some hope for your future, since you have done well in the past. Romans 15:13 says "May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit."

In today's devotional, Dr. Stanley wrote, "God's power is manifest in man's weakest moments. ... You are always in God's hand. ... God never allows anything to touch us that He will not turn to good for His kingdom." I know that God does have a plan for you. And I'm sure that that plan includes Him deciding when you pass from this life.

Keep praying! Keep staying as close to God as you can muster. And most of all, Trust in Him. I truly believe that whatever He has in mind for you will prove to be more than you ever imagined.

 

[jann]

You matter and are a child of God. He has great plans for you even if you do not see it right now. My dad did commit suicide when I was very young. While I understand he made a choice that cannot be reversed, I feel he missed out on huge blessings in his life. He could have had a relationship with his kids, yeah there would have been ups and downs with the relationships, but that is earthly life. He also is missing the blessings of grandchildren. I am not trying to be not caring of your situation because I am sure it is very difficult. Jesus loves you and cares. Even though right now your kids may not be showing it the way you are expecting they truly care.

 

[artistic_dreams]

dough 2 yrs ago i was in your position....but just a lil different..my husband that i adored though he was abusive threw me and my daughter out into the cold on dec.25 2008....i have 3 kids..so my boys stayed w/him til they moved in w/the so called friend my daughter and i moved in with...that was a disaster within itself...so my daughter,a manfriend of mine and i left west texas and we moved to my parents and that lasted 2 days til i got a tent...i lost touch w/my sons....my oldest had moved to maine..my youngest disaapeared and all i could see is i lost my family and it was falling apart....then the worst of it all...i put my daughter back on plane to west texas to liive w/her godmother for a few months...i made sure she had food and a roof...and i lived in a tent on a lake....all i ate is what i could catch from that lake...my ssi had to go for gas and bare neccessities...i sat in that tent when 70 mile an hr winds came through and knocked us over..so we slept in the car...big hail....

in the end there was a light....my lord brought me to a new home...i met my new roomie online and he was in the local area....i have since falling in love w/that man and come nov. of this year it will be 2 yrs of marriage.....those months in the cold sleeping in a tent on the ground were horrible...not having my kids.....that was the worst of it all....was not having my kids....but my daughter and i are closer then anything....

jesus died for u on that cross dough so that you would have life to live....everyday there are worse things....right now i have friend whos homeless w/a 16 yr old girl thats 2 months pregnant....but they are ok .....you need to find homeless shelters if u can....find a church and let them know what is going on....your life is a precious life...is not worthless.......i know that weariness u feel..the tiredness,lonliness,u want to give up....but let me ask youo this...if you saw jesus now right there before u looking at you eye to eye...could u honestly give up then???....pray to him, i pray that you are safe and that you remain that way ....blesssings of hope and peace to you

 

[Vladimir_Ukr]

I know this is a morbid topic, but still, to a person that has lost everything slowly bit by bit, is past mid life with no one in their life, no job, lives in a motel 6 untill his last $2k is gone and, worse, has no idea of even what or where to go for the rest of his life...why not suicide. I have been a Christian 8 years and went from living ina tent to making over $100K to having nothing again. Not by gambling, not by drugs, etc, etc. It is just gone and I am heading to the tent again but aT 54 I just don't see what the purpose would be of trying. My kids look at me wwith pity and maybe shame. Our success and comfort on earth is not promised but heaven is. My hopes and dreams were just around the corner for 35 yrs now, well, I just don't have it any more to hope.My faith is God will feed me and give me my needs but I grow so weary of livng in my truck or motel 6 amd coupled with the lack of even have goals now...well.

Don't do it. You must being model role for other people who going through troubles like you. Remember, what you're needed to the Lord and for people as a model role.
Endure hardship with us like a good
soldier of Christ Jesus(2nd Timothy 2:3)
Please, never give up! Only the Lord may to know how much we will be live.
May our Father in Heaven give you encouragement in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.