IMMORTALITY IN THE WILDERNESS. THE AIM FOR JESUS TEMPTATION

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the Lord is true, we should know the things of God may sometimes seems confusing to us, that is the reason we all need to keep reading. if it is the truth then it is worth believing. I want somebody who could explain to me why i person who has nothing relating to sin will die naturally?
 
hastrup said:
the Lord is true, we should know the things of God may sometimes seems confusing to us, that is the reason we all need to keep reading. if it is the truth then it is worth believing. I want somebody who could explain to me why i person who has nothing relating to sin will die naturally?
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The misery surrounding Jesus and His wilderness temptation is great indeed but I still stand by it that Jesus was tempted in the wilderness for a purpose.

That purpose is to do the opposite of what Adam did in the garden of Eden so as to attain the opposite result of what happened to Adam
 
Jesus represents the embodiment of Israel and Moses a type of Jesus. Moses spent forty days alone in the wilderness before receiving the commandments.
 
hastrup said:
He succeeded to obey this commandment with the sinful flesh which He inherited from His mother Mary.
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hastrup,
You are very seriously mistaken. The reason for the SUPERNATURAL virgin birth of Christ was so that He would NOT inherit any "sinful flesh" (the the sin nature inherited from Adam by all men). Your reference to Rom 8:3 is taken out of context so I will not even address it.

King James Version
For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens (Heb 7:26).
 
Nehemiah6 said:
hastrup,
You are very seriously mistaken. The reason for the SUPERNATURAL virgin birth of Christ was so that He would NOT inherit any "sinful flesh" (the the sin nature inherited from Adam by all men). Your reference to Rom 8:3 is taken out of context so I will not even address it.

King James Version
For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens (Heb 7:26).
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It is good we search for what is true. This is deep revelation ofcourse which some people might thaught i wanna down grade the person of our Lord Jesus by saying He has a sinful flesh at birth.

There are many ways i can use to support my claims but the very one that i believe we all do understand even as a baby believer is this: death came as a result of our sinful act.

Any man and i repeat that any man who has nothing in relation with sin cannot die. Our Lord Jesus was taken to a foreign land in other to protect king Herod from assasinating Him.

Except the bible is wrong. It said that death came as a result of sin and if i understand that statement, if you have nothing relating to sin then you can't die.

For God's angel to command Joseph to take Jesus and flee to a foreign land to avoid being killed, then the baby had something relating with the sins He inheritted from His earthly mother.

He never comitted a sin all through His life on earth but for Him to be liable to death then He is liable to sin. Romans 3:8.

Isaiah 7:14-15. It said, when the child knows enough on how to choose the good against the evil....
 
hastrup said:
For forty long days, He succeeded to obey this commandment with the sinful flesh which He inherited from His mother Mary.
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Sorry, but you seem to be a little confused. Jesus did not inherit "sinful flesh" from Mary. That is why His conception was supernatural. The temptations were real but there was no "sinful flesh" within to respond to them. Of course, Satan did not know this, but you should.
 
When the creator created the man, He made the flesh out of the dust of the ground and breath the breath of life into it and man came alife.

When the man came alife, two beings came alife in him. The first being is the Spirit of God while the other being is the Soul.

The Soul is the mind of Adam and he is a being different from God's Spirit given to him. The Soul has it's mind while God's Spirit has his. Anything that has a mind is alife. A man dies the very time his mind stop working.

The forbidden fruit was eatten to profit the human flesh who does not have a mind at creation. The effect activated the human flesh to life by given him a life of evil.

Now the human flesh becomes alife to evil and not to good. Anytime God's Spirit in us teaches us to do good the mind of our flesh teaches us to disobey and do evil. The man now has the mind of the Spirit of God, his soul mind and the mind of the flesh.

Because God know the mind of the flesh is evil, He warn us against him. He that works according to the desires of :the flesh shall surely die but he that works according to the desires of God's Spirit shall live eternal life.

Anything that has desire, has life because your desire is to future or present want and it makes you live for something. When we don't have any desire in life that life means nothing to us and we would love to end it.

The flesh is sinful because he is the embodiment of all evil if it is not checkmate. The evil forbidden fruit was eatten inside the flesh and not the Soul or God's Spirit because they don't eat fruits.

God's Spirit is good, infact He is with Adam for the purpose of feeding Adam's soul with all goof things. Adam already knows good through the Spirit of God in him before eatten the forbidden. The forbidden fruit only made him to know what was evil.

The evil (sinful nature) was conceived inside the flesh.
 
You would rather believe what you want to believe than what is actually revealed in Scripture. You should realize that you are confused about this matter.
 
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