In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

[JohnDB]

In my studies I have found the world is about 6000 years old. Anyone else studied time from Adam?????

Yep....
Look at the Leverite calendar....started when the Israelites left Egypt. 5500+ years....

So this notion of 6,000 years is WAY off.

The TRUTH is that we don't know. Because you can add up the years before a known date in the genealogies and it doesn't mean anything....those numbers are there for gematria.
And unless you know Hebrew....give it up Already.

 

[Ben77]

Do you feel that Almighty God is unable to create all these things in 6-24hr days or what is your reasoning?

What has 6 days got to do with anything? We're discussing the age of the universe here.

 

[Ben77]

Just your thoughts on why the earth is more than 6000 years old 🙂

Because evidence from the natural sciences strongly indicates so.

 

[hornetguy]

Wow. I'm pretty much at a lose for words after that post.

I find that difficult to believe, brother...

Look, we are both speculating here.... you speculate that if there was a "generic man" that they would have been sinless. I speculate that that would be a very unreasonable expectation, given the nature of human beings.

All I'm saying is that there could have been humans (male and female) created on the 6th day... they were told to go out into all the world, be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth.

Then, God began HIS chosen race of human beings.... sons of God, Adam being the first. Adam, and his wife were placed in the garden, presumably to live there in perpetuity. That does not match up with the 6th day creation of male and female.

Our Bible is the telling of the story of God's chosen people. There could have been thousands of years between the creation, and the placing of Adam into the garden.

This is all purely speculation on my part.... thinking "what if"..... because my theory would explain so many of the differences between science and the creation.

 

[JohnRH]

and yes, Adam was the first man of God's chosen people.

All the other generic men/women would have been erased by the flood. The only humans left would be of Adam's lineage.

God ... hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth ... Acts 17:24-26 (KJV)

And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Gen 3:20 (KJV)

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men ... Romans 5:12 (KJV)

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses ... Romans 5:14 (KJV)
"From Adam to Moses" includes before, during, and after the flood. It includes Jew, Gentile, and pre-Jew/Gentile. There has always been only one human race.

 

[hornetguy]

There has always been only one human race.

I agree with that.

 

[LenMcM]

In my studies I have found the world is about 6000 years old. Anyone else studied time from Adam?????

Yes, I have studied this subject Archbishop Usher in AD 1650 arrived at the date of Adams creation as BC 4004. In my own calculations I came up with the date of BC 4162. But note , that is the date of Adams creation , not the creation of the World. Genesis 1:1,2 tells us that in the beginning God created the worlds but does not tell us when that was. Verse 3 starts with the words "Then God said" These same words are used every time God commences one of His 6 creative acts to prepare the Earth for habitation. I have been trying here to show a copy of my calculations but can not work out how to get them here in correct format. However they are freely available at my free Bible Study site for anyone that is interested.

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[LenMcM]

Yes, I have studied this subject Archbishop Usher in AD 1650 arrived at the date of Adams creation as BC 4004. In my own calculations I came up with the date of BC 4162. But note , that is the date of Adams creation , not the creation of the World. Genesis 1:1,2 tells us that in the beginning God created the worlds but does not tell us when that was. Verse 3 starts with the words "Then God said" These same words are used every time God commences one of His 6 creative acts to prepare the Earth for habitation. I have been trying here to show a copy of my calculations but can not work out how to get them here in correct format. However they are freely available at my free Bible Study site for anyone that is interested.

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Well it appears the whole of my Study number 1 actually loaded. I was only trying to load page 6 so you only need to go to that page.

 

[Omegatime]

Well it appears the whole of my Study number 1 actually loaded. I was only trying to load page 6 so you only need to go to that page.

Very good, I see you spent some time on this study. My study only start withs Adam. We only one year apart up to Abraham. My Exodus dating begins with the death of Abraham and my Exodus date is 2553 from creation.

 

[Fundaamental]

Because evidence from the natural sciences strongly indicates so.

Yes well theres also strong evidence to the foundations of the earth are a separate creation to earth and that the foundation where created in heaven, and the foundation are eternal 😊 and it can be backed up with scripture.

 

[Omegatime]

Well it appears the whole of my Study number 1 actually loaded. I was only trying to load page 6 so you only need to go to that page.

Very good, I see you spent some time on this study. My study only start withs Adam. We only one year apart up to Abraham. My Exodus dating begins with the death of Abraham and my Exodus date is 2553 from creation.

You quoted commencement of Solomons temple from Wikipedia at 967 BC. Taking my Exodus date of 2553 and add 480 years is 967BC or 3033 from creation. I have them 315 years in Egypt. Also between the Septuagint which say 430 in Cannan and Egypt and the Masorectic text which says 430 years in Egypt.

I dont think the 4 generations who entered Egypt were living long enough to be in Egypt for 430 years. Since two generations entered I went scrubbing the first generation and saying the second generation were all newborns for maximum error. The fourth generation I substracted 40 years for being in the wilderness.

I have Jacob standing before Pharoah in year 2238 and adding 315 years gives me an Exodus date of 2553.

One more item to consider is Galations 3:15-18 in which a covenant can be a man's will.

15 To give a human example, brethren: no one annuls even a man’s will, or adds to it, once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many; but, referring to one, “And to your offspring,” which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

I am not condemnng your work but sharing our differences.

I have 315 years in Egypt and 115 years in Cannan

 

[Moses_Young]

lol 😋 speaking in tongues it is then.

A special definition would be when where the foundations of the earth layed.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters

Can you see the foundations are missing.

Can you also see there's more than one understanding of beginning.

I think this is the gap theory. Hypothesising a gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? I don't agree with this either, but consider it different to arguing the days of creation were not 24-hour days.

The only reason to argue that the Genesis days were not real 24-hour days is due to putting "science" above the bible. But by correcting the false assumptions of the atheist scientists, it's easy to make the "science" align with the biblical record. However, the truth is, we were not there, so we should listen to the words of the One who was, Who cannot lie.

 

[Moses_Young]

Because evidence from the natural sciences strongly indicates so.

Give us your best, and we can show you where the assumptions are wrong.

 

[Fundaamental]

I think this is the gap theory. Hypothesising a gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? I don't agree with this either, but consider it different to arguing the days of creation were not 24-hour days.

The only reason to argue that the Genesis days were not real 24-hour days is due to putting "science" above the bible. But by correcting the false assumptions of the atheist scientists, it's easy to make the "science" align with the biblical record. However, the truth is, we were not there, so we should listen to the words of the One who was, Who cannot lie.

Ok Mr tonguey pops 😋.

 

[Wansvic]

I find that difficult to believe, brother...

Look, we are both speculating here.... you speculate that if there was a "generic man" that they would have been sinless. I speculate that that would be a very unreasonable expectation, given the nature of human beings.

All I'm saying is that there could have been humans (male and female) created on the 6th day... they were told to go out into all the world, be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth.

Then, God began HIS chosen race of human beings.... sons of God, Adam being the first. Adam, and his wife were placed in the garden, presumably to live there in perpetuity. That does not match up with the 6th day creation of male and female.

Our Bible is the telling of the story of God's chosen people. There could have been thousands of years between the creation, and the placing of Adam into the garden.

This is all purely speculation on my part.... thinking "what if"..... because my theory would explain so many of the differences between science and the creation.

The word provides solid evidence. Consider that the word says that all of the heavens, earth, and the host of them was finished in the 6 days of creation.

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." Gen 1:31-2:1


And it is not speculation but belief in the word that speaks to the reality that a previously created people would not carry sin:

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come." Rom 5:12-14

 

[Fundaamental]

The word provides solid evidence. Consider that the word says that all of the heavens, earth, and the host of them was finished in the 6 days of creation.

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." Gen 1:31-2:1


And it is not speculation but belief in the word that speaks to the reality that a previously created people would not carry sin:

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come." Rom 5:12-14

Well speculation can also become an accumulation pointing in the right or wrong direction.

Personaly since One day for us is equal to one thousand to the lord.

This means that when the lord created Adam and Eve on the sixth day on earth,

God was here on earth, so earth was in the Time zone as God. ( One day lasting as long as a thousand on earth 💡💡💡💡

So Adam and Eve would have experience one day lasting as long as thousand years, but they wouldn't have realised it.

So in that one day they would have had plenty of time to repopulate 😊

And when God rested on the seventh day he went back to his kingdom and this is when the mechanisms of earth of A 24 hour period began 😊

 

[Cameron143]

Well speculation can also become an accumulation pointing in the right or wrong direction.

Personaly since One day for us is equal to one thousand to the lord.

This means that when the lord created Adam and Eve on the sixth day on earth,

God was here on earth, so earth was in the Time zone as God. ( One day lasting as long as a thousand on earth 💡💡💡💡

So Adam and Eve would have experience one day lasting as long as thousand years, but they wouldn't have realised it.

So in that one day they would have had plenty of time to repopulate 😊

And when God rested on the seventh day he went back to his kingdom and this is when the mechanisms of earth of A 24 hour period began 😊

A day is as a thousand years is an idiom. Time is meaningless to those who live outside it. The Bible also says God owns the cattle on a thousand hills. It simply means He owns it all. Too much is made of the number 1000.

 

[Fundaamental]

A day is as a thousand years is an idiom. Time is meaningless to those who live outside it. The Bible also says God owns the cattle on a thousand hills. It simply means He owns it all. Too much is made of the number 1000.

I always thought Peter indicates 1 day being equal to the lord as being God is outside of time on earth ?.

But scripture makes no indication he wasn't outside of time on earth when he was creating it.

 

[Cameron143]

I always thought Peter indicates 1 day being equal to the lord as being God is outside of time on earth ?.

But scripture makes no indication he wasn't outside of time on earth when he was creating it.

He created time in creation. That's what the sun and moon indicate. Evening and morning. Day 2. Evening and morning. Day 3. Etc.

 

[Omegatime]

if you are wise you will understand that the 6 days of creation represent 6000 years and the 1000 year reign of the Lord as a day--7th or Sabbath day, the day of rest