In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old
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I agree to some extent with your reasoning, but then with the same reasoning why should it be more important to the age of the earth over the age of the foundations.
Shouldn't we care more and disern more for the spiritual aspect.
If you can see the foundations more to do with the spiritual aspect of creation that is.
Shouldn't we care more and disern more for the spiritual aspect.
If you can see the foundations more to do with the spiritual aspect of creation that is.
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the foundations are God's Word.
when has it ever failed?
how can you age God's Word, who had His Own Kingdom He Spoke into existence well before Speaking the Universe and Earth into existence?
but we both know, because i provided the Scripture, that God designed for the Foundations to Fail.
so, let's don't glorify something ultimately designed to Fail.
when has it ever failed?
how can you age God's Word, who had His Own Kingdom He Spoke into existence well before Speaking the Universe and Earth into existence?
but we both know, because i provided the Scripture, that God designed for the Foundations to Fail.
so, let's don't glorify something ultimately designed to Fail.
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because it is only 5 days away from the Creation of man. and man, is searching for the END to know when he will be with God. and since the Bible literally offers clues, it's quite obvious GOD wants us to think about such things.
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and all of that comes first before we get science involved.
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and all of that comes first before we get science involved.
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that's why the age of the earth in this discussion has been connected to the tribulation, because it's about the END TIMES.
1 day = 1,000 years/1000 years = 1 day
6,000 years = 6 days
1,000 year mill reign = 1 day
they want to know how close are we to YEAR 5,993, next 7 years are Great Tribulation, 6,000 year mark.
1 day = 1,000 years/1000 years = 1 day
6,000 years = 6 days
1,000 year mill reign = 1 day
they want to know how close are we to YEAR 5,993, next 7 years are Great Tribulation, 6,000 year mark.
it can't come soon enough.
I have some belief that the 7th millennium may be the return of the lord.
But my general belief is that would be starting from the day of Pentecost round about the year 7000. 5000 years from now
But it just an idea and nothing I would become to deeply involved in.
Something inside of me longs to be back with its creator everyday.
Which to me says my millennium is already here 😊.
I have some belief that the 7th millennium may be the return of the lord.
But my general belief is that would be starting from the day of Pentecost round about the year 7000. 5000 years from now
But it just an idea and nothing I would become to deeply involved in.
Something inside of me longs to be back with its creator everyday.
Which to me says my millennium is already here 😊.
I could gladly participate and search in the Bible to find the correct age, to prove archaeologists wrong, when they talk about millions of years old earth.
And I could agree that christians might be persecuted in the coming years, for their belief, which would be a sign of that the Judgement day is near. Still - calculating the exact year the world will end, will most likely fail. Proof:
Matt 24,36: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Read: Jesus does not know the day. Even though he is God. The Father knows it only. How could then we calculate it?
We must only live like our day is the last, and be prepared.
And I could agree that christians might be persecuted in the coming years, for their belief, which would be a sign of that the Judgement day is near. Still - calculating the exact year the world will end, will most likely fail. Proof:
Matt 24,36: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Read: Jesus does not know the day. Even though he is God. The Father knows it only. How could then we calculate it?
We must only live like our day is the last, and be prepared.
Tid-bit from Isaiah 46
remember the former things of old;
for I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me,
10 declaring the end from the beginning
and from ancient times things not yet done,
saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
and I will accomplish all my purpose,’
remember the former things of old;
for I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me,
10 declaring the end from the beginning
and from ancient times things not yet done,
saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
and I will accomplish all my purpose,’
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Ahhhmmm.....that statement is meant to convey the undergirding fact of the new covenant marriage betrothal contract. The Trinity are not keeping secrets from One Another.
Nevertheless, it is also true that the harpazo can happen at any moment. No so with the Second Coming, which can be timed with a high degree of certainty ex post man of sin being revealed.
Nevertheless, it is also true that the harpazo can happen at any moment. No so with the Second Coming, which can be timed with a high degree of certainty ex post man of sin being revealed.
The Masoretic is perfectly well known to be corrupted by Rabbi Akiva at about 100AD.
These problems disappear when using the LXX Septuagint, which is what Paul was quoting from most of the time.
Furthermore, the LXX is the ONLY text one must use to determine accurate chronologies.
Akiva butchered the correct patriarchal life-spans whimsically.
Barry Setterfield is pretty much spot on here, other than a 20 year error in Judges (93 vs 113 missing years), which he has since corrected. This pushes the dates 20 years back in time.
https://barrysetterfield.org/scriptchron.htm#destruction
This chart HAS been corrected. Abraham was born 2322 BC.
BTW, Archbishop Ussher's (absurd) chronology uses the flawed Masoretic, and he opines that
the Flood of Noah happened 2348 BC. Yet the ACCURATE DATE of the birth of Abraham is 2322 BC.
Do you see a problem here?
These problems disappear when using the LXX Septuagint, which is what Paul was quoting from most of the time.
Furthermore, the LXX is the ONLY text one must use to determine accurate chronologies.
Akiva butchered the correct patriarchal life-spans whimsically.
Barry Setterfield is pretty much spot on here, other than a 20 year error in Judges (93 vs 113 missing years), which he has since corrected. This pushes the dates 20 years back in time.
https://barrysetterfield.org/scriptchron.htm#destruction
This chart HAS been corrected. Abraham was born 2322 BC.
BTW, Archbishop Ussher's (absurd) chronology uses the flawed Masoretic, and he opines that
the Flood of Noah happened 2348 BC. Yet the ACCURATE DATE of the birth of Abraham is 2322 BC.
Do you see a problem here?
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THREE MAIN VERSIONS FROM ONE ORIGINAL TEXT
The Original And The Samaritan Pentateuch (SP)
From the time of Ezra and Nehemiah (about 440 BC) until the Council of Jamnia (around 100 AD) there existed a 'Vorlage Text' of the Old Testament in paleo-Hebrew. This Vorlage was essentially the original complete Old Testament text. With time the Vorlage gave rise to three 'recensions'. The first of these was the Samaritan Pentateuch (SP), again in paleo-Hebrew, about 408 BC. Tobiah the Ammonite allegedly took a copy of the Law with him when he was cast out of the Temple by Nehemiah (see Nehemiah13:4-9 and Ezra 4:1-4) and set up the rival system of worship in Samaria. This was essentially a copy of the Vorlage Pentateuch. For the Samaritans in Israel today, this comprises their Scriptures.
The Septuagint Greek (LXX)Translation
The second recension was the Septuagint Greek (LXX) which was translated from the Vorlage Text about 250 BC by 72 Jewish scholars in Alexandria (also known as the Alexandrian Septuagint, by way of distinction from other later translations also bearing the title of Septuagint, or LXX). This version became necessary because of the number of Greek-speaking Jews that were resident in Egypt under the favourable Ptolemaic Dynasty. It has been noted by most authorities that the LXX translation of the Vorlage Hexateuch (Genesis to Joshua) was particularly carefully done because of its revered position in the canon. The Eastern Christian Church still considers the LXX to be the authoritative OT text today.
The Council Of Jamnia And The Masoretic Text (MT)
Finally the Masoretic Hebrew (MT) was re-written in square 'modern' Hebrew characters at the Council of Jamnia around 100 AD with the vowel points added around 900 AD. In 'Our Bible and the Ancient Manuscripts', p.49 (Eyre and Spottiswoode, London), Sir Frederick Kenyon commented that this dual procedure could easily be 'one considerable source of corruption' in the MT. But let us put this all in its proper context.
THREE MAIN VERSIONS FROM ONE ORIGINAL TEXT
The Original And The Samaritan Pentateuch (SP)
From the time of Ezra and Nehemiah (about 440 BC) until the Council of Jamnia (around 100 AD) there existed a 'Vorlage Text' of the Old Testament in paleo-Hebrew. This Vorlage was essentially the original complete Old Testament text. With time the Vorlage gave rise to three 'recensions'. The first of these was the Samaritan Pentateuch (SP), again in paleo-Hebrew, about 408 BC. Tobiah the Ammonite allegedly took a copy of the Law with him when he was cast out of the Temple by Nehemiah (see Nehemiah13:4-9 and Ezra 4:1-4) and set up the rival system of worship in Samaria. This was essentially a copy of the Vorlage Pentateuch. For the Samaritans in Israel today, this comprises their Scriptures.
The Septuagint Greek (LXX)Translation
The second recension was the Septuagint Greek (LXX) which was translated from the Vorlage Text about 250 BC by 72 Jewish scholars in Alexandria (also known as the Alexandrian Septuagint, by way of distinction from other later translations also bearing the title of Septuagint, or LXX). This version became necessary because of the number of Greek-speaking Jews that were resident in Egypt under the favourable Ptolemaic Dynasty. It has been noted by most authorities that the LXX translation of the Vorlage Hexateuch (Genesis to Joshua) was particularly carefully done because of its revered position in the canon. The Eastern Christian Church still considers the LXX to be the authoritative OT text today.
The Council Of Jamnia And The Masoretic Text (MT)
Finally the Masoretic Hebrew (MT) was re-written in square 'modern' Hebrew characters at the Council of Jamnia around 100 AD with the vowel points added around 900 AD. In 'Our Bible and the Ancient Manuscripts', p.49 (Eyre and Spottiswoode, London), Sir Frederick Kenyon commented that this dual procedure could easily be 'one considerable source of corruption' in the MT. But let us put this all in its proper context.