Instigators.....

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Does that mean if their is gross error, we cannot correct with the word of God according to 2Tim. 3:16?

Do we obey man or do we obey God? Not picking atcha, just suggesting your thinking is little off. Christ's truths and methods are paramount, not to be discarded lest we offend someone or crash a happy clam bake. Go along to get along.
I'm all for fellowship with the saints, but it's not going to be true spiritual intimacy unless it is founded upon the bed rock of biblical truth which is the key to having Him in the midst of our fellowship 'where 2 or 3 are gathered in His Name (authority) He will be there'.
Otherwise, His Spirit is quenched. Then it becomes a carnal gathering. You can do that down at the pool hall.

Jesus wants to be invited into our 'gathering together.' That's why He stands at the door and knocks. 'If any man hear My voice and answer, I will come unto him and sup with him and he with Me.' Rev. 3:20

The beauty of that 'supping' together with Jesus at the head of the table is glorious and it must be based on His conditions and dictates, not on our own traditions and opinions. 'Your traditions make of none effect the word of God', Mark 7:13.

This is most important to the welfare of the 'body of Christ'. It's a do or die situation. We've got to get this right or we'll never enter into His abundant life and will, John 10:10.

This same chapter has declared that the thief comes to steal, (His truth), kill (quench the Holy Spirit in our life), and destroy (all things and blessings God has for us.)

This thief is not just referring to satan, but it refers to men who have taken unto themselves a self exalted controlling authority over the sheep which Jesus condemns in Matt. 23:4-12 and in Matt. 20:25-26, and in 1Peter 5:3.

So these travesties need to be searched out in the word and corrected. And if correction is rejected then the blessed fellowship of the saints that God had in mind, will not be realized.

Am i for the fellowship of the believers? You bet. I'm still waiting. Might have to wait until we get to heaven. That's the best way i know how to answer the ascertion that we need to keep silent on this vital issue. God bless everyone with these biblical truths. Really, that's the only way these blessings are going to get 'unbound'.......by the truth that sets free the captives. John 8:32

Then we can break bread together as He set forth.

If anyone should ever actually experience this biblical, holy, 'God's way of doing this', kind of anointed fellowship, they'ed never ever settle for 'church as usual' again! All the hitelings would have to go 'get a real job', Acts 20:33-35....i bet you never heard these verses taught on. Smile. I wonder why!

By the way...was Jesus an instigator? He sure could stir the pot. Smile.
 
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Don't get too upset. You'll get used to *Yet* after a while. (Sort of like a nagging toothache. LOL)
 
Don't get too upset. You'll get used to *Yet* after a while. (Sort of like a nagging toothache. LOL)

Hmm...........I was thinking ........... (sort of like something Preperation H is used for.......but, hey, nagging toothache works too......)
 
I was going to say "welcome" Ruth, but I see you're from CANADA!!!! The bible says there are no true Christians in Canada.. I forget the exact chapter and verse.... but it SAYS it.... ;)

Seriously, sister.... WELCOME! Some of our best folks are Canadians.... at least according to their little "flags".... I want them to let me put a Texas flag on mine, but I haven't figured out how to do that, yet....

The BDF is a pretty opinionated place... believe me, I've run into the "wall of resistance" myself on several occasions.

I have also LEARNED a lot here, and the, um... VIBRANT discussions have helped me look at things from different perspectives on many occasions.

Just don't be too thin-skinned, and learn to ignore the brow-beaters. There are many good folks here... I hope that most people think I'm one of them. If not? Que-Sarah-Sarah (to quote Bruce Willis) :cool:
Sad! This is just sad. I'm so very disappointed in you, Hormet. Let me clarify for you.

Proverbs 31 is the chapter about the perfect believing woman.

Proverbs 32 is about me -- the imperfect believing women.

Proverbs 33 is about imperfect Canadian believers.

And, of course, Proverbs 34 is my sales pitch to talk you into buying my land 3 miles east of Atlantic City.

Now you know!
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(And for anyone thinking I'm being serious, feel free to look up Proverbs 32-34. It doesn't get any easier than that for reading material. Proverbs 31 really is great reading, but you have to think. No thinking required for the rest. No need to even know how to read for the rest.)
 
just remember : we left ( I am in Georgia ) and yall wanted us back!!!
Me? I didn't even notice you were gone. lol

(I'm from South Jersey originally, and really still wish South Jersey could secede form North Jersey.)
 
How often are y'all gonna secede? Wasn't once enough?

The first time didn't "take"....

I still say we need to secede, take over Mexico, declare open season on drug cartels, and create the nation of "Texico" We'd have more natural resources than nearly any other nation, several sea ports, our own military.... we could encourage domestic manufacturing, be on the gold standard, and be one of the greatest nations in the world.

anyway.... back to reality....
 
The first time didn't "take"....

I still say we need to secede, take over Mexico, declare open season on drug cartels, and create the nation of "Texico" We'd have more natural resources than nearly any other nation, several sea ports, our own military.... we could encourage domestic manufacturing, be on the gold standard, and be one of the greatest nations in the world.

anyway.... back to reality....

And Texas is doing something really smart....storing their own physical gold in Texas and not with the Feds. ( that will come in handy later as this world progresses )
 
The first time didn't "take"....

I still say we need to secede, take over Mexico, declare open season on drug cartels, and create the nation of "Texico" We'd have more natural resources than nearly any other nation, several sea ports, our own military.... we could encourage domestic manufacturing, be on the gold standard, and be one of the greatest nations in the world.

anyway.... back to reality....

Now THAT'S instigating.
 
The first time didn't "take"....

I still say we need to secede, take over Mexico, declare open season on drug cartels, and create the nation of "Texico" We'd have more natural resources than nearly any other nation, several sea ports, our own military.... we could encourage domestic manufacturing, be on the gold standard, and be one of the greatest nations in the world.

anyway.... back to reality....
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Texas doesn't love the rest of us 49-staters?
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I come into a Christian Chat room because I am looking for fellowship from fellow Christians....something you can't find in many chatrooms, where the mere mention of being a Christian provides fodder for non-Christians.

What I do have a problem with are Christians who are so dogmatic in their interpretations of scripture that there is no room for open sharing of opinions about scriptures. I especially have a problem with the ones that come in just looking to stir up trouble and you can't tell them anything and when you do try to correct them with scripture will respond with, "the Holy Spirit told me....." or "I am being persecuted for doing God's work....so therefore, I know I am on the right path". My response is really?

In my opinion, this is a person that has a closed mind and heart and when that happens, when nothing is allowed to go in...that means nothing worthwhile is allowed to get out either.

It is my understanding that this Christian website was created for all people to come and enjoy fellowship while also displaying "fruits of the Spirit". The moderators try their best to keep civility and peace within each room; however, that is not always possible. We are all human beings and have come from varied backgrounds and experiences, so let's remember where we are but especially, WHOM we represent before getting on our high horse and thinking we are better than another person.

I slay Pharisees and Marxists. Other than that, I'm a nice guy who embraces the grace.
 
The first time didn't "take"....

I still say we need to secede, take over Mexico, declare open season on drug cartels, and create the nation of "Texico" We'd have more natural resources than nearly any other nation, several sea ports, our own military.... we could encourage domestic manufacturing, be on the gold standard, and be one of the greatest nations in the world.

anyway.... back to reality....

I wonder if you went to the gold standard how you would exchange currencies.

In my view, all currencies except your own would be worthless, or near worthless.

Money is such a weird thing, isn't it? It's worth whatever each person thinks its worth.
 
Something you have to remember is that we live in conditioned world now. Where the opinion in a persons taught perception and assumption is the only right way. And no one wants to have an open mind to understand. Or when ever they get to feeling to. They read a comment that turns their personality or twist their feelings. No one wants to be wrong. I see a lot of personal emotion in some topics. People are entitled to how they feel and their opinion about the topic at that moment. Just as I am entitled to give my opinion on this particular topic on why people act the way they do. However coming without the lack of knowledge or facts of the topic at hand. Is the same as a Black belt choosing a fight with someone who is not experienced. Those coming in to stir the pot and work on peoples nerves is a given. You can not expect it when you place your thoughts out here in these forums. The person arguing may come from a different teaching, background ect.

I come from a tough love family and siblings. So I tend not to be soft on people. I am brutally honest. Because I don't believe in self limitations as I perceive it as an excuse. You should never apologize for how you feel. Its like saying sorry for being real. Reality is we can not control other people and how they act, say or do things. Its free will. Not much you can do about it.

People listen with the intent to respond. Not to understand.
 
:haha: yeah thats it
WE BELIEVED IN ALL THE WORKS OF OUR LORD CHRIST JESUS OUR SAVIOUR
THE OLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
AND ALL THAT IS HOLY
NOW I REMEMBER HOW THE ELDERS PRAY . ...
YOUR NOT ONLY MENTIONING HIS NAME
BUT ALSO ALL THE GOOD WORKS THAT HIS DONE FOR THOSE HUMANS
FOR THAT IS THE WILL OF OUR LORD GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY
WHO IS GOOD AND CANNOT LIE

~;> I BET SOMEONE OR SOME PEOPLE HEARD THIS BEFORE AND
THEY LOST THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE THEY COULDNT KEEF UP
THE GOOD WORKS OF WHAT IS GOOD AND CANNOT LIE
THATS WHY
THEYVE BEEN EASILY CORRUPTED BY THOSE EVIL THINGS
SO THAT MAY NOT ONLY TWIST THE WORDS
BUT ALSO CHANGE IT
HOPE THEY CHANGE NOW
UNTIL THE TIME COMES
 
:haha: yeah thats it
WE BELIEVED IN ALL THE WORKS OF OUR LORD CHRIST JESUS OUR SAVIOUR
THE OLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
AND ALL THAT IS HOLY
NOW I REMEMBER HOW THE ELDERS PRAY . ...
YOUR NOT ONLY MENTIONING HIS NAME
BUT ALSO ALL THE GOOD WORKS THAT HIS DONE FOR THOSE HUMANS
FOR THAT IS THE WILL OF OUR LORD GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY
WHO IS GOOD AND CANNOT LIE

~;> I BET SOMEONE OR SOME PEOPLE HEARD THIS BEFORE AND
THEY LOST THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE THEY COULDNT KEEF UP
THE GOOD WORKS OF WHAT IS GOOD AND CANNOT LIE
THATS WHY
THEYVE BEEN EASILY CORRUPTED BY THOSE EVIL THINGS
SO THAT MAY NOT ONLY TWIST THE WORDS
BUT ALSO CHANGE IT
HOPE THEY CHANGE NOW
UNTIL THE TIME COMES

AGAIN ... .

:haha: yeah thats it
WE BELIEVED IN ALL THE WORKS OF OUR LORD CHRIST JESUS OUR SAVIOUR
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
AND ALL THAT IS HOLY
NOW I REMEMBER HOW THE ELDERS PRAY . ...
YOUR NOT ONLY MENTIONING HIS NAME
BUT ALSO ALL THE GOOD WORKS THAT HIS DONE FOR THOSE HUMANS
FOR THAT IS THE WILL OF OUR LORD GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY
WHO IS GOOD AND CANNOT LIE

~;> I BET SOMEONE OR SOME PEOPLE HEARD THIS BEFORE AND
THEY LOST THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE THEY COULDNT KEEP UP
THE GOOD WORKS OF WHAT IS GOOD AND CANNOT LIE
THATS WHY
THEYVE BEEN EASILY CORRUPTED BY THOSE EVIL THINGS
SO THAT MAY NOT ONLY TWIST THE WORDS
BUT ALSO CHANGE IT
HOPE THEY CHANGE NOW
UNTIL THE TIME COMES