Interdimensional Portals

[posthuman]

so again, let's have that scripture wherein we are told to use portals and how to open them

yes Ma'am

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
(Matthew 7:13-14)​

 

[stonesoffire]

here's an article that seems relevant:

Temple Institute views on ‘Foundation Stone’ do not square with scripture

Will check it out..

 

[Denadii]

yes Ma'am

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
(Matthew 7:13-14)​

LOLOL Good one. Not a dimensional gate though. Metaphor

 

[preacher4truth]

I find it amazing how a person can reject, out of hand, anything that he has never even looked at before. That’s called ignorance.

No, it's not rejecting, it's not ignorance and it's not fear. It's mature discernment; Hebrews 5:11-14:

"About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil."

 

[ForthAngel]

Here is a door I wouldn't want to open:

Isaiah 14:9-11
9 Sheol beneath is stirred up
to meet you when you come;
it rouses the shades to greet you,
all who were leaders of the earth;
it raises from their thrones
all who were kings of the nations.
10 All of them will answer
and say to you:
‘You too have become as weak as we!
You have become like us!’
11 Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
the sound of your harps;
maggots are laid as a bed beneath you,
and worms are your covers.

 

[stonesoffire]

here's an article that seems relevant:

Temple Institute views on ‘Foundation Stone’ do not square with scripture

Did you check what this site is out of posthuman? Armstrongism. Herbert Armstrong started this. I wouldn't accept anything from there.

 

[Denadii]

No, it's not rejecting, it's not ignorance and it's not fear. It's mature discernment; Hebrews 5:11-14:
"About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil."

Well you can justify it any way you like. You still reject something without even looking at it. That's ignorance pure and simple. Call it mature discernment if you want. A rose by any other name.....

You're right. You'd better stick with milk..until you grow up.

 

[Denadii]

Here is a door I wouldn't want to open:

Isaiah 14:9-11
9 Sheol beneath is stirred up
to meet you when you come;
it rouses the shades to greet you,
all who were leaders of the earth;
it raises from their thrones
all who were kings of the nations.
10 All of them will answer
and say to you:
‘You too have become as weak as we!
You have become like us!’
11 Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
the sound of your harps;
maggots are laid as a bed beneath you,
and worms are your covers.

That's a good reason for us not to open doors hey?

 

[ForthAngel]

Well you can justify it any way you like. You still reject something without even looking at it. That's ignorance pure and simple. Call it mature discernment if you want. A rose by any other name.....

You're right. You'd better stick with milk..until you grow up.

You still haven't provided anyone with any legit sources man. What do you want us to do? Can't read your mind. Share your knowledge or admit you dunno what you are talking about. All you've offered so far is unsubstantiated opinions. I am listening to the writer of that book, one of his sermons. I'm afraid this group is a cult bro. Or at least close to it.

 

[Denadii]

You still haven't provided anyone with any legit sources man. What do you want us to do? Can't read your mind. Share your knowledge or admit you dunno what you are talking about. All you've offered so far is unsubstantiated opinions. I am listening to the writer of that book, one of his sermons. I'm afraid this group is a cult bro. Or at least close to it.

Who? Lake? Well you passed judgment Stand on it.

 

[preacher4truth]

Well you can justify it any way you like.

Thanks, I did justify it in the exact manner I like to do it: with the Word of God. Something you rarely refer to.

You still reject something without even looking at it. That's ignorance pure and simple. Call it mature discernment if you want. A rose by any other name.....

Again, I refer to the Word of God and stand on it.

You're right. You'd better stick with milk..until you grow up.

Been there, done that, but thanks.

 

[Denadii]

Thanks, I did justify it in the exact manner I like to do it: with the Word of God. Something you rarely refer to.



Again, I refer to the Word of God and stand on it.



Been there, done that, but thanks.

Riiiight!!

 

[preacher4truth]

You still haven't provided anyone with any legit sources man. What do you want us to do? Can't read your mind. Share your knowledge or admit you dunno what you are talking about. All you've offered so far is unsubstantiated opinions. I am listening to the writer of that book, one of his sermons. I'm afraid this group is a cult bro. Or at least close to it.

I looked up those he endorsed -- rank heretics for the most part. When one teaches the things he does, that is what follows. Not much Bible discernment is needed for warning flags to arise in that scenario.

 

[stonesoffire]

Wikipedia: Judaism

~The classic Torah commentaries offer several interpretations of Jacob's ladder. According to the Midrash, the ladder signified the exiles which the Jewish people would suffer before the coming of the Messiah. First the angel representing the 70-year exile of Babylonia climbed "up" 70 rungs, and then fell "down". Then the angel representing the exile of Persia went up a number of steps, and fell, as did the angel representing the exile of Greece. Only the fourth angel, which represented the final exile of Rome/Edom (whose guardian angel was Esau himself), kept climbing higher and higher into the clouds. Jacob feared that his children would never be free of Esau's domination, but God assured him that at the End of Days, Edom too would come falling down.[SUP][citation needed]

[/SUP]
Another interpretation of the ladder keys into the fact that the angels first "ascended" and then "descended". The Midrash explains that Jacob, as a holy man, was always accompanied by angels. When he reached the border of the land of Canaan (the future land of Israel), the angels who were assigned to the Holy Land went back up to Heaven and the angels assigned to other lands came down to meet Jacob. When Jacob returned to Canaan he was greeted by the angels who were assigned to the Holy Land.


Yet another interpretation is this: The place at which Jacob stopped for the night was in reality Mount Moriah, the future home of the Temple in Jerusalem.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] The ladder therefore signifies the "bridge" between Heaven and earth, as prayers and sacrifices offered in the Holy Temple soldered a connection between God and the Jewish people. Moreover, the ladder alludes to the giving of the Torah as another connection between heaven and earth. In this interpretation, it is also significant that the Hebrew word for ladder, sulam (סלם) and the name for the mountain on which the Torah was given, Sinai (סיני) have the same gematria (numerical value of the letters).

So take your pick I guess. You know already which one I believe.

And I didn't misunderstand anything. The stone is supposed to the one that Jacob anointed.

What I posted previously was right from the Temple Institute site.

 

[Denadii]

I looked up those he endorsed -- rank heretics for the most part. When one teaches the things he does, that is what follows. Not much Bible discernment is needed for warning flags to arise in that scenario.

Your judgment does not surprise me. What are your qualifications? You passed a judgment...What are your qualifications to judge? If I am to accept what you say as true. I should know. Right?

 

[ForthAngel]

I looked up those he endorsed -- rank heretics for the most part. When one teaches the things he does, that is what follows. Not much Bible discernment is needed for warning flags to arise in that scenario.

There is no exegesis in the sermon I'm listening to. It's standard cult practice of stringing random verses together. One verse, long tangent of nothingness and opinion, one verse, long tangent of nothingness. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Denadii]

There is no exegesis in the sermon I'm listening to. It's standard cult practice of stringing random verses together. One verse, long tangent of nothingness and opinion, one verse, long tangent of nothingness. Rinse and repeat.

Which one are you listening to? Out of curiosity.

 

[Denadii]

There is no exegesis in the sermon I'm listening to. It's standard cult practice of stringing random verses together. One verse, long tangent of nothingness and opinion, one verse, long tangent of nothingness. Rinse and repeat.

You think he should interpret the scriptures before spouting on them? Why? Why would it be wrong to simply teach what Jesus taught on?

 

[Magenta]

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[ForthAngel]

Hey man, I'm not trying to be harsh with you personally. I just hope you would take into consideration what others here are saying. Just consider it. See if it's true.

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