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Tintin
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Yes, the book is bi-polar and poorly-written. Part of it is peaceful, the other part is violent, angry and militant.
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Yes, the book is bi-polar and poorly-written. Part of it is peaceful, the other part is violent, angry and militant.
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jaybird88
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i agree with you there.
mostly i would say the US and who ever else is fighting there as our allies. i dont think its done in the name of Christianity, its done for the greed of a few. those greedy few risk nothing and the soldiers risk everything. from the Muslim perspective all they see is a Christian nation bombing the crap out of them every day. we know our leaders are not very Christian but do they? I hate war, i like what Lennon said, "lets give peace a try" but that wont happen, there's no money in peace.
Actually as surprising as it may be, no. The character called allah in koran is not satan. Satan would be the narrator of the koran.
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Charlie001
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If they were true Muslims following their book the Koran, they would look like ISIS. Be glad they were only moderate ones.
A well written site shows archaeologically that Allah was at least originally Sean then changed to Sin the moon god. Also that Mecca was constructed as a Shrine for the moon god and that the crescent moon above each mosque is representative of the moon god. I don't remember if site addresses are allowed or not but I guess this can be taken down if they are not. The site with this information is: ALLAH, the Moon God
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phil112
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Christian not a killer.
War is not in the name of christianity. War is orchestra by satan.
Remember President Eisenhower speech. about military industrial complex.
a war, is orchestra by an institution that own weapon industry to gain money and destroy the world preparation for one world government.
Allah is a false god, no different than Astarte, Baal, Dagon, Molech, etc. None are real, they are false idols. "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me" (Isaiah 45:5). Worshipping any other god is idolatry. Satan on the other hand is real, a fallen angel (cherub), while Allah doesn't exist. So imo, presuming Allah is Satan, is no different than radical Muslims presuming that the United States is the great Satan
While neither is true, its probably safe to assume that Satan has influence over everything that's false (confusion).
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Originally Posted by valiantSo you think Arabic Christians worship a different God than us?
But all Arabic speaking Christians worship God as ALLAH. Allah is NOW the recognised Arabic term for God (whatever used to be the case). For us to suggest that Allah was anything but God would be deeply offensive to Arabic Christians.
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Miri
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I know that I do not worship the same God as perceived by Muslims.
Galatians 5:22-23 NKJV
[22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness,
goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
1 Timothy 2:5 NKJV
[5] For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the
Man Christ Jesus,
Muslims are lost and need a saviour just as much as atheists or any
other religion.
Incidentally it is possible for someone to have a religious spirit within them
which is not the Holy Spirit. I believe we have seen this a few times in
some of the trolls who quickly get banned. There is one in particular but
people argue back with him and don't seem to recognise the true nature of
what is going on inside of him.
They use religious words and even quote the bible at times.
But there is nothing Godly about them and they twist the bible and
manipulate (by the way I am not talking about ourselves when we are debating and
trying to understand Gods word).
For one of the more obvious examples see the link below - there have
been others less obvious. We need to be aware of things like this but
many don't. If you really want a good argument you might want to try
unmasking him next time he appears but be sure you are wearing the
full armour of God because Satan is real.
http://christianchat.com/christian-teens-forum/117395-wat-troll-2.html
Even Satan knows the bible and he, via a person in this case Mohammed,
is more than capable of twisting the bible - the Koran.
Incidentally this same religious spirit also appears in the NT.
Acts 16:16-18 NKJV
[16] Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed
with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by
fortune-telling. [17] This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying,
"These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the
way of salvation." [18] And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly
annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of
Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.
This is why it's important to understand that not everyone who says Lord,
Lord is of God.
Galatians 5:22-23 NKJV
[22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness,
goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
1 Timothy 2:5 NKJV
[5] For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the
Man Christ Jesus,
Muslims are lost and need a saviour just as much as atheists or any
other religion.
Incidentally it is possible for someone to have a religious spirit within them
which is not the Holy Spirit. I believe we have seen this a few times in
some of the trolls who quickly get banned. There is one in particular but
people argue back with him and don't seem to recognise the true nature of
what is going on inside of him.
They use religious words and even quote the bible at times.
But there is nothing Godly about them and they twist the bible and
manipulate (by the way I am not talking about ourselves when we are debating and
trying to understand Gods word).
For one of the more obvious examples see the link below - there have
been others less obvious. We need to be aware of things like this but
many don't. If you really want a good argument you might want to try
unmasking him next time he appears but be sure you are wearing the
full armour of God because Satan is real.
http://christianchat.com/christian-teens-forum/117395-wat-troll-2.html
Even Satan knows the bible and he, via a person in this case Mohammed,
is more than capable of twisting the bible - the Koran.
Incidentally this same religious spirit also appears in the NT.
Acts 16:16-18 NKJV
[16] Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed
with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by
fortune-telling. [17] This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying,
"These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the
way of salvation." [18] And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly
annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of
Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.
This is why it's important to understand that not everyone who says Lord,
Lord is of God.
Blasphemy good -- being deeply offensive to Arabic Christians bad.
Another great post by Mr. Assumption.
Allah came from the imagination of a man, "Christians" who worship Allah are not Christians.
I remember in the 70s - 80s people was saying that Allah was Jehovah, but it a lie.
I remember in the 70s - 80s people was saying that Allah was Jehovah, but it a lie.
The things and ways of God are offensive to many, regardless of what you may think allah is the name of the God in the Quran and anytime someone mentions the name allah it is refer to the God of the quran. Just because it's offensive doesn't make it wrong
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Viligant_Warrior
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First of all right up front, I know God loves the Muslim people and He gave His Son for their salvation just as he did for the rest of mankind. However, they like everyone else must accept that free gift of His Son to be saved. If they believe, as their religion teaches straight from the Qu'ran, that God has no Son, they. whether knowingly or unknowingly, call the God of the Bible a liar.
God has made it clear in His Scriptures that He has given a Son and belief in this Son is required for anyone's salvation. Unless they come to believe this truth they will die in their sins. No name under heaven other than God's Son, Jesus, can save mankind from their sins (Act 4:12).
There is a great deal of effort in the world now to separate the evil terrorist Islamists from the "mainstream" of Islam, and call that mainstream "peaceful." That does not fit reality. All one has to do is examine Islam's own claims from their own scriptures you must come to realize that the attributes of Allah as given in Islam's own holy books are the exact same attributes that the Bible gives to Lucifer/Satan.
Having said that, Christians should not be too smug in embracing that fact. Many in Christianity are also worshiping a God that has the attributes of Satan. It just so happens that all world religions ride on the back of the same dragon. Read with Spirit-guided understanding the seventeenth chapter of the Revelation and see what I mean.
God has made it clear in His Scriptures that He has given a Son and belief in this Son is required for anyone's salvation. Unless they come to believe this truth they will die in their sins. No name under heaven other than God's Son, Jesus, can save mankind from their sins (Act 4:12).
There is a great deal of effort in the world now to separate the evil terrorist Islamists from the "mainstream" of Islam, and call that mainstream "peaceful." That does not fit reality. All one has to do is examine Islam's own claims from their own scriptures you must come to realize that the attributes of Allah as given in Islam's own holy books are the exact same attributes that the Bible gives to Lucifer/Satan.
Having said that, Christians should not be too smug in embracing that fact. Many in Christianity are also worshiping a God that has the attributes of Satan. It just so happens that all world religions ride on the back of the same dragon. Read with Spirit-guided understanding the seventeenth chapter of the Revelation and see what I mean.
Mohammad used the Word Allah for both the sun god and the real God, but the Koran does not convey God's message of love of even our enemies. The Muslim population has been deluded by the only writer of the Koran who was trying to appease both the sun god worshipers and the Christians, kind of like the churches that condone same sex marriage are trying to do now. I mentioned the one writer of the Koran because the bible was written by many and unlike the Koran the bible maintains it's continuity and doesn't change the message with the exception of following the law and the killing of enemies. Which brings to mind another thought. I understand that the Koran does not preach violence in the first part of it, but does in the second half, which is just opposite of our bible. Satan and God, also opposites.