Is Animal Torture a Good facet of Religion

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Does Animal Torture Demonstrate Religious Fervor?

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JaumeJ

JaumeJ

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I am posting this as a poll because I cannot get a straight answer out of any catholic on the subject.
Do you believe it is a good, healthy, holy action to torture and abuse animals in order to demonstrate religious fervor as is practiced in most Catholic countries. (just a few links to Spain and some S. American countries practicing this are here below.)
Please do not bring into this discussion the sacrifices of the Old Testament because the animals were killed and consumed, nothing more than what is done for the hamburger you may eat.
http://fereshteh.net/student/animal_cruelty/Issues/bloodfiesta.htm
http://www.cas-international.org/en/home/suffering-of-bulls-and-horses/cruel-fiestas/
http://www.occupyforanimals.org/spanish-fiestas.html
http://www.animals-in-distress.eu/cruelty-in-spain.html
http://www.occupyforanimals.org/fiesta-del-pero-palo-villaneuva-de-la-vera-spain.html
http://www.galgonews.com/2012/03/i-thought-you-might-be-interested-to-read-this-piece-by-oscar-van-gastel-which-he-has-posted-on-animal-welfare-support-murcia.html
http://www.faace.co.uk/
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061116142259AAIAa1G
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313480/Spains-blood-fiestas-make-bullfights-tame-youre-paying-them.html
 
resurrection33

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I’m sure the Lord disciplines people who torture animals.
 
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cfultz3

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JaumeJ said:
I am posting this as a poll because I cannot get a straight answer out of any catholic on the subject.
Do you believe it is a good, healthy, holy action to torture and abuse animals in order to demonstrate religious fervor as is practiced in most Catholic countries. (just a few links to Spain and some S. American countries practicing this are here below.)
Please do not bring into this discussion the sacrifices of the Old Testament because the animals were killed and consumed, nothing more than what is done for the hamburger you may eat.
http://fereshteh.net/student/animal_cruelty/Issues/bloodfiesta.htm
http://www.cas-international.org/en/home/suffering-of-bulls-and-horses/cruel-fiestas/
http://www.occupyforanimals.org/spanish-fiestas.html
http://www.animals-in-distress.eu/cruelty-in-spain.html
http://www.occupyforanimals.org/fiesta-del-pero-palo-villaneuva-de-la-vera-spain.html
http://www.galgonews.com/2012/03/i-thought-you-might-be-interested-to-read-this-piece-by-oscar-van-gastel-which-he-has-posted-on-animal-welfare-support-murcia.html
http://www.faace.co.uk/
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061116142259AAIAa1G
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313480/Spains-blood-fiestas-make-bullfights-tame-youre-paying-them.html
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Definition of Oxymoron:

To show how much I love God, I am going to torture one of His living creatures.

To show Giod how much I choose live over deeath, I am going to have an abortion.

Any others?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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For all the animals of the forest are mine,
and I own the cattle on a thousand hills.
I know every bird on the mountains,
and all the animals of the field are mine.
 
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AnandaHya

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that is because no true Catholic would torture animals and making false accusations are a sin.

I know plenty of pagans who pretend to be Christian/ Cattholic that will sacrifice animals to their tribal dieties that they pretend is some saint to avoid being called out by the Church. some will pretend to be a part of the Church just to poison the ones who truly worship Jesus.

just because someone pretends to be Catholic or Christian doesn't mean they are. ...
 
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AnandaHya

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Animal Sacrifice in Christian Churches: Humane Religion Magazine Articles: Bible, love, compassion, peace, justice, sensitivity, church, synagogue, temple, God, Jesus, Christ, Christian, human rights, animal rights, cruelty free, animals, life style,

ancestor worship is idolatry and those who allow it should undergo church discipline... its sad when priests who stand against it is in the minority. however it does show that there are still some in the Catholic faith who objects to such practices, such as Father Kevin Reynolds...

But faced with recalcitrant parish priests like Father Kevin Reynolds, who argues that animal sacrifice is "foreign to traditional Catholic theology regarding the Mass," the archbishop has offered a compromise. Although Catholic theology does say that since the sacrificial death of Jesus 2,000 years ago, there is no longer any need to offer animal sacrifices to God, the killing can still be carried out. But instead of offering the blood of the victims to God, it can be offered in honor of the African ancestors of participating Catholics. (Ancestor worship is seen by the archbishop, and others, as the native equivalent of the Catholic practice of honoring its canonized saints.) Archbishop Buti proposes that the blood of the slain animal--be it goat, chicken, sheep or cow--can be presented during the Mass as "a gift to the ancestors, not to God."
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http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=9216
 
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If you eat meat from a grosery store in America, you're supporting animal torture, believe that, dear Christian. Remember the choice you have between the white styrofoam cartons of eggs and the brown eggs in brown cartons that are more expensive. Do you actually know the difference between free ranch chickens and "regular chickens" is? Whatever you're thinking, it's probably worse. Or the difference between grass fed cows and "regular cows" is? If you don't I suggest researching it. There are videos. Here's one I found http://www.planetpace.com/templates/pop_info/cruelty.html Anyway local meat markets still raise animals right. And if you have Amish meat markets, that's good too.
 
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JaumeJ

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Brandon777 said:
If you eat meat from a grosery store in America, you're supporting animal torture, believe that, dear Christian. Remember the choice you have between the white styrofoam cartons of eggs and the brown eggs in brown cartons that are more expensive. Do you actually know the difference between free ranch chickens and "regular chickens" is? Whatever you're thinking, it's probably worse. Or the difference between grass fed cows and "regular cows" is? If you don't I suggest researching it. There are videos. Here's one I found http://www.planetpace.com/templates/pop_info/cruelty.html Anyway local meat markets still raise animals right. And if you have Amish meat markets, that's good too.
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I understand your thinking, however the object of this post is abusive torture of animals. As per slaughtering animals for food, this is not quite the same, although, I know what you are saying. This post is strictly from the Biblical teachings on the subject. For example the following:
1Co 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
Your vegetarian point of view is a very good one, and I have often thought in those terms, but due to certain corporal weaknesses, some may call genetic, it seems all the vegetarian sources of protein will not keep my own blood iron at a healthy level. The older I am, the less I want meat of any kind, so please, forgive my eating meat, and do not be offended. If the subject of killing animals for food piques your investigative mind, please, post on the subjet!
 
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AnandaHya

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Brandon777 said:
If you eat meat from a grosery store in America, you're supporting animal torture, believe that, dear Christian. Remember the choice you have between the white styrofoam cartons of eggs and the brown eggs in brown cartons that are more expensive. Do you actually know the difference between free ranch chickens and "regular chickens" is? Whatever you're thinking, it's probably worse. Or the difference between grass fed cows and "regular cows" is? If you don't I suggest researching it. There are videos. Here's one I found http://www.planetpace.com/templates/pop_info/cruelty.html Anyway local meat markets still raise animals right. And if you have Amish meat markets, that's good too.
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yes buying local is a great idea. not so much NOT eating meat as knowing where your food comes from. I think its worth the extra few dollars to buy the cage free eggs instead of the cheaper "regular" eggs.

Though I don't support animal sacrifices, truthfully they treat their animals better then many mass farms that provide meat to the local grocery stories.

People just like to ignore what is not comfortable. I am guilty of it too. for example landfills, the over use of plastics, etc.



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