Is baptism required for salvation?
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The Didache (The Teaching of the Twelve) from the 2nd century is one of the earliest Christians writings and indicates that baptism is by immersion. It also suggests that in specific cases, water may be poured.
1. Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," in running water; [presumably a river or stream]
2. But if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm.
3. But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
4. And before the baptism let the baptiser and him who is to be baptised fast, and any others who are able. And thou shalt bid him who is to be baptised to fast one or two days before.
But the biblical mode of baptism is immersion, for the simple reason that that represents death, burial, and resurrection, and that is what Scripture teaches.
1. Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," in running water; [presumably a river or stream]
2. But if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm.
3. But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
4. And before the baptism let the baptiser and him who is to be baptised fast, and any others who are able. And thou shalt bid him who is to be baptised to fast one or two days before.
But the biblical mode of baptism is immersion, for the simple reason that that represents death, burial, and resurrection, and that is what Scripture teaches.
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Sin is a killer. Water baptism could never efface sin. Only the blood of Christ is sufficient to atone for sin. Fail to understand the difference between water baptism and Holy Spirit baptism.
When Phillip evangelized the eunuch Philip conditioned water baptism on belief on Christ as the only pre-requirement for receiving water baptism. Acts 8 is crystal clear on this point and the best evidence of believers baptism in water.
Saved people get water baptized. Unsaved people must first be Holy Spirit baptized.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
When Phillip evangelized the eunuch Philip conditioned water baptism on belief on Christ as the only pre-requirement for receiving water baptism. Acts 8 is crystal clear on this point and the best evidence of believers baptism in water.
Saved people get water baptized. Unsaved people must first be Holy Spirit baptized.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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That's your response?...mixing repentance with baptism and then condemning baptism as not equal with repentance. Why do you do that. A leftist spin..I think
Repentance is repentance and baptism is baptism.
Baptism follows repentance and is PART of the repentance and forgiveness process. Study scripture.
Baptism is required. If you need reference..there are many..let me know.
That's your response?...mixing repentance with baptism and then condemning baptism as not equal with repentance. Why do you do that. A leftist spin..I think
Repentance is repentance and baptism is baptism.
Baptism follows repentance and is PART of the repentance and forgiveness process. Study scripture.
Baptism is required. If you need reference..there are many..let me know.
Your Roman Catholic soteriology is not biblical soteriology.
Salvation is by grace wholly apart from works. Water baptism is a work of obedience for believers. Your lack of understanding on this matter reveals a serious problem on your part.
Scripture is unequivocal on the matter. Salvation by grace period. All this tat you seek to tack on is mans doctrine and not of Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Salvation is by grace wholly apart from works. Water baptism is a work of obedience for believers. Your lack of understanding on this matter reveals a serious problem on your part.
Scripture is unequivocal on the matter. Salvation by grace period. All this tat you seek to tack on is mans doctrine and not of Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
"Contingent saving", aka, works salvation.
It's a damnable thing that plagues the world and causes the community of those blessed by God's grace and indwelt with his holy spirit to have to renounce time and again.
It disrespects God's gift of irrevocable grace. And Immanuel Jesus' the Christ's sacrifice on the cross. And ignores all that was nailed there for the sake of the world and those that believe.
No one comes to the Christ but the father calls them. Would we argue time and again to do our part in that thinking we're able to play a part? God knows those for whom his grace is meant. Because he knows the heart that will be open in this world of the enemy to receive it. Works salvation messaging is the antithesis of grace filled salvation.
It is not of God. How can people of God hope to do God's job for him? He knows his daughters and sons. Those who argue they must work to stay saved are also known for that perspective.
Taking time thinking to do God's job for him is egocentric and pride-filled. Let those who think they have to work to stay saved find out they were eternally wrong. It is God's will after all. Who are we thinking we can alter even that.
It's a damnable thing that plagues the world and causes the community of those blessed by God's grace and indwelt with his holy spirit to have to renounce time and again.
It disrespects God's gift of irrevocable grace. And Immanuel Jesus' the Christ's sacrifice on the cross. And ignores all that was nailed there for the sake of the world and those that believe.
No one comes to the Christ but the father calls them. Would we argue time and again to do our part in that thinking we're able to play a part? God knows those for whom his grace is meant. Because he knows the heart that will be open in this world of the enemy to receive it. Works salvation messaging is the antithesis of grace filled salvation.
It is not of God. How can people of God hope to do God's job for him? He knows his daughters and sons. Those who argue they must work to stay saved are also known for that perspective.
Taking time thinking to do God's job for him is egocentric and pride-filled. Let those who think they have to work to stay saved find out they were eternally wrong. It is God's will after all. Who are we thinking we can alter even that.
Agreed. No, water baptism is not required so as to be saved.
Baptism is Required
Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Roman 6;3.... Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Mark16;16.... He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
So, in the vast deserts of Ethiopia, it hasn't rained in 10 years. A missionary works there, and he led a young man, his mother, and brother to Christ. They accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior, and all were filled with joy!
A year later, another missionary passes by, and asks if anyone knows Christ. The young man replied "Yes, I, my mother and my brother are Christians. We accepted Christ as Lord and Savior just last year." The missionary asks "Were you water baptized?"
"No" replied the young man. "Then you are not saved" said the missionary.
"But, but, there is NO WATER" lamented the young man
Water baptism DOES NOT SAVE ANYONE!
A year later, another missionary passes by, and asks if anyone knows Christ. The young man replied "Yes, I, my mother and my brother are Christians. We accepted Christ as Lord and Savior just last year." The missionary asks "Were you water baptized?"
"No" replied the young man. "Then you are not saved" said the missionary.
"But, but, there is NO WATER" lamented the young man
Water baptism DOES NOT SAVE ANYONE!
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baptism is a simbol of your fath and follower of jesus to walk a sinless path a rightgess path what saves the soul is your comentment to jesus not to do the things that afends him and sin is that what we reep we sow he is a just god it has to be delt with wether we no or not what we do so its best to no what we do that wy he says repent. get out of your sin and he will forgive you and you then will be reborne back into the kingdom a new born sprit he babatize meaning jesus . us with a new sprit from him his babatizum but i beleve we give the right to god over us when we get babatized a protection seal from god were saying we belong to jesus
No one can say baptism saves...or scripture...or repentance...as far as that goes. ...that's G-d's decision. But, the biblical process of repentance, baptism makes us ...born again...and eligible to receive ...saved....status when judged by G-d.
I can tell you do not know the difference between .......born again...,and....saved.
If the basics aren't correct...nothing else will be.
I can tell you do not know the difference between .......born again...,and....saved.
If the basics aren't correct...nothing else will be.
Water Baptism Does not save you, but Faith does and faith without works is dead. Focus on made up stories that are rare and you might justify not being Baptised but i ask you if Jesus said to be Baptised and there was a river near by should you obey or not? Jesus will Judge not us. If there is no water than Jesus know the story but if there was plenty of water and you were just lazy than He knows why you choose to not obey.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
The early church before corruption and the false doctrines about no need to be batized.....
Act_2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act_8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act_8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Act_19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act_22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
All i can say is "Arise and be Baptised....."
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
The early church before corruption and the false doctrines about no need to be batized.....
Act_2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act_8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act_8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Act_19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act_22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
All i can say is "Arise and be Baptised....."
If there are reasons that make it impossible to be baptized like the man on the cross next to Christ, and for that reason i believe that when Jesus was baptized He was baptized for them. By Grace they are covered like our sins but if we can be baptized and we just choose to ignore the word or call of God than that is disobedience. If Abraham had of ignored Gods call to travel to another country than that would have been disobedience (he would not nave been called faithful). Works do not save and the act of baptism has no special power to save, salvation comes from Christ alone. But Baptizm is a spiritual experience that shows your obedience and faith in God and your commitment to be born again as a child of God.
1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.