Is Elon Musk the forerunner for the Antichrist?

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Do you think Elon Musk is the forerunner for the Antichrist?

  • yes

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • no

    Votes: 24 75.0%

  • I don't believe a counterfeit Christ will also have a counterfeit John the Baptist

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't know, maybe

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Total voters
    32
ZNP said:
Saying that He is a prophet of God says that His teaching is from God.
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Even if that were true it would not amount to "all Muslims agree with the ethical teachings of the Bible."

Is Mo a prophet of God? Are his teachings from God?

The hero of Islam is an adulterous war mongering pedophile.

That does not align with the ethical teachings of the Bible at all.
 
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ZNP said:

WATCH CAREFULLY: Jordan Peterson Is Revealing Something About Elon Musk!

This video is full of admiration for Elon Musk and I think it is difficult to not speak with respect for the things he has accomplished.

However, the reason for the question of the title is that the forerunner for the Antichrist would make straight his paths to have the mark of the Beast. That requires Starlink. Also, the beast system in my opinion refers to AI and robots, which also includes Elon Musk. Not only so but I think that self driving cars were a major stepping stone in the development of AI, Drones, and robots.
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No, not in the least. Things have to come to pass for the anti-Christ to take control, but that has been happening for years. I don't think Musk is involved anymore than anyone else. Seems today people are looking more for the anti-Christ than Jesus Christ. We don't need to worry about who it will be.
 
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Magenta said:
Even if that were true it would not amount to "all Muslims agree with the ethical teachings of the Bible."

Is Mo a prophet of God? Are his teachings from God?
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Islam has a practice called taqiyya, which is the act of concealing or mystifying one's beliefs. Early Muslims used taqiyya to avoid torture or death at the hands of non-Muslims and tyrants. The practice has been used differently throughout history, especially between Sunni and Shia Muslims

No, saying that "all Muslims agree with the ethical teaching of the Bible" is equivalent to the practice of taqiyya where their religion permits them to lie in order to conceal their true beliefs.

We are told how to discern if someone is truly saved and they must say that Jesus Christ is Lord of all and blessed forever.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
No, not in the least. Things have to come to pass for the anti-Christ to take control, but that has been happening for years. I don't think Musk is involved anymore than anyone else. Seems today people are looking more for the anti-Christ than Jesus Christ. We don't need to worry about who it will be.
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Amazing to me how anyone can be so certain that someone is not. The only way I could be certain that he is not is if I knew who was. So enlighten us, who is the forerunner to the Antichrist? Who is the one who is making straight his paths?
 
ZNP said:
We are told how to discern if someone is truly saved and they must say that Jesus Christ is Lord of all and blessed forever.
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Where does it say that in the Bible?

Are you practising taqiyya?
 
daisyseesthesun said:
Elon musk isn't a Christian he said he almost died from malaria and he was on death door and still did not call out to Jesus so his belief is practically zero.

"highly esteemed among men is an abomination to God"

"again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

"He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
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I really don't mean this to be nasty. I spent a lot of my life in the ministry of evangelizing, going from town to town to spread the Word. We as Christians need to be more sensitive to seekers. If you haven't yet, watch the movie Jesus Revolution. Too many time Christians bar the door to heaven for others. I believe Mr. Musk is a seeker and very close to receiving the Lord as Savior if he isn't torn apart because he is a public figure. Watch the following video and tell me that the Holy Spirit isn't speaking to this man. We need to pray he comes to know the truth before it's too late.





 
jacko said:
Please pray for Elon Musk.. He’s not a Christian but he believes in Christian values. I think he just needs to go get over the hump.
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Yes, I totally agree with you. For a man that is the richest in the world, he has a soft heart for Jesus. We need to pray.
 
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Magenta said:
Where does it say that in the Bible?

Are you practising taqiyya?
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1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

How people speak of Jesus Christ let's you discern what spirit they are operating by.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Calling on the name of Jesus is a clear indication of someone who is saved.

Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Confessing that Jesus is the one Lord is an item of the Faith that all believers hold. If you do not believe that then you are not in the Faith.

Just because I can't discern that you are saved does not mean that you aren't. However, if you are trying to discern if someone like Elon Musk is saved then I need to hear him say that Jesus Christ is Lord and blessed forever. The Bible is very clear and specific on how to discern if someone is a false prophet. And it is also very clear on the signs we will see around those who are truly saved.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
I really don't mean this to be nasty. I spent a lot of my life in the ministry of evangelizing, going from town to town to spread the Word. We as Christians need to be more sensitive to seekers. If you haven't yet, watch the movie Jesus Revolution. Too many time Christians bar the door to heaven for others. I believe Mr. Musk is a seeker and very close to receiving the Lord as Savior if he isn't torn apart because he is a public figure. Watch the following video and tell me that the Holy Spirit isn't speaking to this man. We need to pray he comes to know the truth before it's too late.

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I posted that (or a very similar video) two and a half years ago :D

Here (<= link)
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Ummmmmm :devilish: there is good in Satan?
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The tree of the knowledge of good and evil, is also the tree of death, it is a deception to lead us away from the tree of life. I did not say there was good in Satan, I said it was a mistake to think that he is 100% evil. The mistake is that you are allowing Satan to come to you disguised as an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Satan is deceitful, he can appear as either an angel of light or an angel from the darkside. What he and the demons cannot do is proclaim that Jesus is Lord.

Mark 1:34. And he healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons. And he would not permit the demons to speak, because they knew him.
 
ZNP said:
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil, is also the tree of death, it is a deception to lead us away from the tree of life. I did not say there was good in Satan, I said it was a mistake to think that he is 100% evil. The mistake is that you are allowing Satan to come to you disguised as an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Satan is deceitful, he can appear as either an angel of light or an angel from the darkside. What he and the demons cannot do is proclaim that Jesus is Lord.

Mark 1:34. And he healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons. And he would not permit the demons to speak, because they knew him.
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This honor have all the Saints

Psalm 149:1 Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

4 For the Lord taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.

5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;

7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the Lord.

Lucifer was the praise worship leader, but it is the saints who get to sing unto the lord a new song, not him. We can be joyful in our king, but not him. We can praise His name in dance, but not him. Lucifer was once a beautiful angel, but now God is beautifying the meek with salvation, not him. We can have the high praises of God in our mouth, but the demons and lucifer are not permitted to do that. Satan is a liar, a slanderer, a thief, and a murderer. No one who is committing sins like that is permitted to praise the Lord until they have first confessed, repented and taken the blood of the Lord to cleanse them of their sins. We can praise the Lord because He has given us the honor to execute vengeance, to bind with chains and fetters of iron, all of the demons and fallen angels including Lucifer. However, demons and fallen angels cannot repent, they cannot take the Lord's blood and they cannot praise His name.
 
Magenta said:
Chapter and verse please. So far you have not done that.
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I'm sorry I obviously do not understand your question, perhaps you could explain more clearly what you are asking me and also let me know if you think Elon saying he is a "cultural Christian" in some way indicates he is actually a Christian (please provide the verse references for your conclusion).

One other question, since I was answering what I need to see to conclude someone is in fact a Christian, based on the Bible. Could you also tell us what you need to see based on the Bible? Thankyou.

If you will answer these questions then I believe I can better answer your questions to your satisfaction.
 
ZNP said:
I'm sorry I obviously do not understand your question, perhaps you could explain more clearly what you are asking me and also let me know if you think Elon saying he is a "cultural Christian" in some way indicates he is actually a Christian (please provide the verse references for your conclusion).

One other question, since I was answering what I need to see to conclude someone is in fact a Christian, based on the Bible. Could you also tell us what you need to see based on the Bible? Thankyou.

If you will answer these questions then I believe I can better answer your questions to your satisfaction.
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If you look at post number 45 you can see I was very clear about what I was asking you to give the chapter and verse for because I highlighted that part of your post. Rather than answering any of my simple straightforward questions you have introduced a lot of logical fallacies and who knows what all else (diversions, evasions etc) because you simply refuse to admit that all Muslims do not agree with the ethical teachings of the Bible. Trying to get truth out of you is like pulling teeth.
 
Magenta said:
If you look at post number 45 you can see I was very clear about what I was asking you to give the chapter and verse for because I highlighted that part of your post. Rather than answering any of my simple straightforward questions you have introduced a lot of logical fallacies and who knows what all else (diversions, evasions etc) because you simply refuse to admit that all Muslims do not agree with the ethical teachings of the Bible. Trying to get truth out of you is like pulling teeth.
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So that is it? Your refuse to answer my questions and think I will answer yours? That is disrespectful. Answer my questions and I will answer yours.
 
ZNP said:
I don't think the plan is to set off a huge EMP 200 miles over the US burning up all electronic devices because of that problem. Instead I think the plan is to take out 10 substations which they have spent the last two years making. That will bring down the entire grid in the US and accomplish all they want while allowing them to bring the electricity back up a few months later.
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It can happen now without a satellite internet connection. Though what will 10 substations knocked out of 55,000 in the U.S. going to do? Certainly won't take down the whole grid.

Satellite internet connection is just like it was going from dail up phone connection to cable connection. It's just a new way to connect to the internet.
 
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