Is It Anything About The Sabbath That We Must Know?

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Walter

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Monday 8-15-22 2nd. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Av 16 5782 56th. Summer Day

  • The Sabbath is a memorial of creation. Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate that grand event. (Exodus Twenty:11) It is also a sign between God and us that He sets us apart as His special people.
1 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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Love, Walter
 

TMS

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Nice.
It is plan and simple if you allow yourself to hear.

The sabbath is the commandment most disliked.
Most disputed, or unaccepted.

The only command that God said to remember.
It is a wonderful blessing. Praise God for the sabbath.
 

oyster67

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Nice.
It is plan and simple if you allow yourself to hear.

The sabbath is the commandment most disliked.
Most disputed, or unaccepted.

The only command that God said to remember.
It is a wonderful blessing. Praise God for the sabbath.
It is all good and well until one begins putting day worship above Son worship. Every day should be kept holy and worshipful. Argument about which day of the week should be preferred is not constructive either. That being said, every seventh day is indeed Biblical and was practiced in the Early Church.
 

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Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations (under the old covenant of law) was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians under the new covenant.

*Colossians 2:16 - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
 

TMS

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It is all good and well until one begins putting day worship above Son worship. Every day should be kept holy and worshipful. Argument about which day of the week should be preferred is not constructive either. That being said, every seventh day is indeed Biblical and was practiced in the Early Church.
It isn't about day worship, it is about worshiping the creator.
God (Jesus) askes us to remember a day and keep it holy, so we should obey.
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

It is not day worship it is love for God.
We can keep the sabbath for the wrong motive. Love is not the wrong motive.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
 

oyster67

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Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations (under the old covenant of law) was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians under the new covenant.

*Colossians 2:16 - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Definitely not to be kept the way the Pharisees kept it. Still good to gather on the first day of the week, like the early Church did, though. (Which just so happens to come around every seventh day. :))
 

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Christians do a better job of keeping Shabbat than they are given credit for, it is built into or culture. It's a day of rest from the rigors of putting food on the table and keeping the home running smoothly. The rest day is then followed by a day of worship and family celebrations for many Christians.
 

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Is It Anything About The Sabbath That We Must Know? Yeah, it's in Acts 15:10-11:

"Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."
 

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Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations (under the old covenant of law) was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians under the new covenant.

*Colossians 2:16 - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
The Ten Commandments are not the old covenant which was abolished.
Keeping the laws were central to the covenant.
The Ten commandments did not change because Israel failed to obey them.
 

TMS

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A covenant is an agreement between two parties, based on mutual promises.

The old covenant was, obey my laws and I'll bless you.

When you read Heb 8:6-13 you can understand why a new covenant was needed.

Here is a proof that the covenant which disappeared was not the Ten Commandments.

The old had poor promises in it. Verse 6 states that the New "was established upon better promises".
Is there any poor promises in the Ten commandments?
No, Paul declares that they were good.
Eph 6: 1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
The old covenant was not the Ten commandments.
 
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Sabbath keeping isn’t clear to me. It seems like we’re supposed to keep every day holy and worship God every day. It also seems like there aren’t any clear instructions for the dos and don’ts of sabbath keeping. Seems like they avoided work on the sabbath in the Old Testament, but then again working on the sabbath is good if it betters yours or someone else’s life and that’s an opinion. Seems entirely subjective to me. Seems like if you just keep doing good and living right every day then you can’t go wrong.
 

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The routine day of rest is a codified day of obligation for Moses' followers as
stipulated in the covenant their ancestors entered into with God on oath per
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Seeing as how the routine day of rest isn't a codified day of obligation
stipulated in a covenant that Christ's followers enter into with God on oath;
then according to the 14th chapter of Romans, making the routine seventh
day a part of one's belief system comes down to personal choice, i.e. it's
optional rather than mandatory.

Also according to that 14th chapter, when people attempt to make certain days
mandatory holy days for Christians, they are guilty of usurping Christ's hard-earned
right to make the rules for his own followers.

NOTE: The oath is mentioned at Deut 29:11-15
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gb9

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A covenant is an agreement between two parties, based on mutual promises.

The old covenant was, obey my laws and I'll bless you.

When you read Heb 8:6-13 you can understand why a new covenant was needed.

Here is a proof that the covenant which disappeared was not the Ten Commandments.

The old had poor promises in it. Verse 6 states that the New "was established upon better promises".
Is there any poor promises in the Ten commandments?
No, Paul declares that they were good.
Eph 6: 1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
The old covenant was not the Ten commandments.

there was only one Covenant and one Law of Moses.

you cannot just extract the !0 out of and claim they stand alone.
 

Mii

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The MUST know would be the scripture located in Romans 14:5

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.


6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.

Perhaps another translation would be in order but it's the sabbath is a personal thing. Leastways that's my understanding of Romans 14:5.



Maybe you "must" not know this but the two scriptures about not pursuing your OWN pleasure on the sabbath are important to note.

I'm not saying sunday effectively functions as the sabbath for some but you do church in the morning and can't wait to have a day of pleasure/family time/football w/e and for me at least those types of things drive out resting in him and more just R&R.

Interesting side of it that is rarely talked about but I'm not saying you MUST keep the sabbath or anything or that if you do you are a Pharisee...rather that the pleasure element contains a lesson that would be of benefit to most believers in dying to themselves.


Sure if it's your good pleasure to read the bible all day go for it...pursuing your own pleasure within the boundaries of the law of liberty isn't sinful by the way, it's just something to consider. What might that mean for you?

I find it incredibly difficult when I focus on giving up my own pleasure (no I don't mean asceticism) to the point where it can bring what borders on hedonism/licentiousness into some balance.
 

Mii

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The only command that God said to remember.
It is a wonderful blessing. Praise God for the sabbath.
Do you consider what Jesus said about communion to be a command also?

Sincerely interested, it's the only other thing that I can think of that says "this do in remembrance".

I haven't ever considered it a "command" but just something you do

is that not pretty much the same thing though?


I guess the memorial stones too at the Jordan but I don't think that counts in context :p
 

gb9

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i take the Lord's Day { sunday} as a rest day, church, then rest, no regular work.

how many follow the Lord's day as a rest day the way the Lord God laid out- work 6 days, rest one.
 

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Christians do a better job of keeping Shabbat than they are given credit for, it is built into or culture. It's a day of rest from the rigors of putting food on the table and keeping the home running smoothly. The rest day is then followed by a day of worship and family celebrations for many Christians.

Are you forgetting that Jesus is our Sabbath? He made a way for us to rest from all our labors forever. Christ did it all, I say thank You.

Mat. 11:28-30 should be the "Sabbath law" for all believers because we should be resting 24/7 and recognize that Jesus accomplished all things for us and as us. Therefore, I don't have a day of rest but do live my life out of rest to worship my Savior every breathing moment of my life.
 

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Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations (under the old covenant of law) was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians under the new covenant.

*Colossians 2:16 - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

Mathew 11:28
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Hebrews 4
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

When we enter into Jesus rest we cease from our own works, when in that rest you can still deliver the mail, even on Saturdays....I notice you post good stuff on other sites as well nice to see you here
 

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The only command that God said to remember.
Not so. God said to remember many things - Lot's wife, your first love, the fact you were strangers in Egypt, your calling
 

posthuman

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Mathew 11:28
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Hebrews 4
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

When we enter into Jesus rest we cease from our own works, when in that rest you can still deliver the mail, even on Saturdays....I notice you post good stuff on other sites as well nice to see you here
Bees still gather pollen and make honey on Saturday - and i believe bees have no sin. all creation testifies of our Creator

Lifting your neighbors ox out of a ditch on sabbath counts as rest - because i know He is faithful and i do not worry that He is not =]