Is it the Christian's responsibility to fight "territorial spirits?"

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Lanolin said:
no I dont trust you

who is 'them'?
are you chinese
reincarnation is not a chinese belief it is a HINDU belief. Get your religons straight.

Most chinese do not believe in reincarnation. The folk religions of China are not about reincarnation. and no, karma it is not about a white picket fence!

Chinese folk religion are about achieving immortality. longevity, prosperity and blessings are prayed for in THIS life not the next...there is no bodily transmigration of the soul. The ghosts either haunt the earth or end up in an afterlife not america lol

where do you get your info from, and why do you insist on spreading misinformation? . Sorry, but you need correction

Indian and Chinese empires are two different beasts.
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What do you mean by “folk religion”? Religion is man’s futile effort to reach god, it must explain the biggest enigma - where do I go after I die? Yes, they had all kinds of false idols for immortality. longevity, prosperity and blessings, but when it comes to afterlife and spirituality, it’s Buddhism that fills the void. Buddhism was originated from India, but it had over a thousand years of history in China and become a their religion, there are a lot of these Buddhist temples, I’ve visited some of them. “White picket fence” as I said is just an extreme example of their imagination of utopia.
 
JeffA said:
There was no translation. This was my perspective of why "Prince" in some cases seemed to be higher in rank than kings.
The "prince" being the "principality" i.e. Daniel referring to the "Prince of Persia". This was no human.
"Kings" usually are men. (I'm not referring to Jesus).

It was just a commentary. Not a translation.
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Apologizes, I am often tired

I have another surgry coming up soon.
 
Carry_Your_Name said:
Wow, if that's true, then God is really working in miraculous ways. I knew some of their culture background, they'd been atheists long before communists took over, their unofficial belief is reincarnation, which means the moment you die, your soul is immediately transferred into another conception to start another life, it goes to an extent that if you're doing good with upright moral character, you may be reborn in an affluent widwest middle class American family in a nice suburb with a white picket fence. Also, their morality is based on honor and shame instead of right and wrong, there's no equivalent word for "sin" in Mandarin, the closest in their translation is "guilt", "crime" or "felony" in a legal sense, and like most leftists they generally believe that everyone is born as a blank canvas, all the evil is acquired from society. I can't imagine how Christianity could flourish in such a place.
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I read my book, those references are not about that.
 
Edify said:
I totally agree, L4H2. It has been my personal observation that such spirits rule over communities, cities, even whole countries. I also believe these spirits will dominate more as the Holy Spirit is gradually taken out of the way. It's because of these spirits that the US has become liberal, even violent at times.
Folks don't realize how powerful they will become when the Antichrist steps on the stage. There will be "princes" in every country.
I remember years ago my family had to move to the projects. I didn't feel it as it gradually built momentum. But, when we moved out we could definitely tell the difference. Even our kids felt it.
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Load voices do keep us worried and enjoy judging evil people till we hear the smallest soft voice in silence is hard to except no work needed.
 
Live4Him2 said:
Paul testified before such political figures as the deputy Sergius Paulus, Felix, Festus, and, of course, Caesar.
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Certainly we are to be ready to testify before all. I'm glad that you changed the direction of the thread from political activism to witnessing for Christ. They are definitely not the same thing. More like opposites. We must not become sidetracked by the affairs of this world.

Live4Him2 said:
Anyhow, I'm not here to argue with anybody.
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Me neither, brother. God bless you. (y)
 
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The purpose of this thread is neither politics nor witnessing, but recognizing false teachers and false doctrine.
 
ResidentAlien said:
The purpose of this thread is neither politics nor witnessing, but recognizing false teachers and false doctrine.
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It should be pointed out that the casting out of "territorial spirits" has been assigned by NAR to the modern "apostles" of the New Apostolic Reformation (which is a deceptive movement to mislead Christians).
[See https://bewatchful.org/new-apostolic-reformation/]

But the real issue is this "Can there even be modern apostles, when the Bible makes it crystal clear that there are only TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE LAMB, and their names are written in the twelve foundations of the wall of the holy city New Jerusalem?" (Rev 21:14).

We should be mindful of two things from Scripture: (1) Christ promised -- "in the regeneration" -- to give the twelve apostles (Judas excluded and Paul included) twelve thrones on which they would sit judging the twelve tribes of Israel (Mt 19:28; Lk 22:30) and (2) the number twelve is the number of the perfection of divine government and has tremendous spiritual significance.

The number "twelve" occurs 189 times in the KJV. If we focus simply on the book of Revelation and on the heavenly city New Jerusalem, we find that (a) it measures 12 x 1,000 furlongs each in length, breadth, and height. (b) it has twelve gates which are twelve pearls, (c) there are twelve angels at each of those gates having the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, (d) the walls have twelve foundations with the names of the twelve apostles, (e) and the Tree of Life which is in this city has twelve manner of fruit. We should also remember that the 144,000 shown in Revelation 7 & 14 at the throne of God are 12 x 1,000 from each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

In view of all this we should dismiss the idea of any men claiming to be "apostles" and "prophets" today. Not a single "Apostolic Father" (church leader) ever claimed to be either an apostle or a prophet. Those were foundational ministries (Eph 2:20-22) , therefore their writings have been incorporated into Scripture (and Paul wrote over half the NT). After Christ Himself, Scripture is more than sufficient for all believers (2 Tim 3:16,17).
 
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