Is Knowledge of the Original Languages Necessary for KJV Believers?

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Bible_Highlighter said:
Is it the understanding of Greek-speaking scholars who live and teach in Greece?
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Bible_Highlighter said:
You are not giving me any kind of objective standard, either. What standard are you using to determine what these words actually mean? Is it the understanding of the KJV translators? Is it the understanding of Greek-speaking scholars who live and teach in Greece? Is it the historical testimony of Greek and English lexicons? Or is it simply your own interpretation, along with that of others who belong to a movement influenced by German Rationalism, which has encouraged doubt rather than faith in Scripture?
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The objective standard is not my interpretation, your interpretation, the KJV translators, modern scholars in Greece, or any particular lexicon.
The objective standard is the text itself in its context, with Scripture interpreting Scripture.

Lexicons and translators can be useful tools, but they are not inspired.
The KJV translators themselves would not have claimed infallibility for their explanations.
Likewise, the fact that I speak modern Greek does not automatically make me an authority on Koine Greek any more than speaking modern English makes someone an authority on Shakespearean English.

The real question is whether your interpretation can be demonstrated from the text, not whether you can cite authorities who agree with it.
 
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Bible_Highlighter said:
While part of you may genuinely believe that you are willing to reconsider your beliefs if the evidence shows that you are wrong, I believe that, at this point in time, there is a stronger part of you that simply refuses to allow that to happen.

You have given me no indication that you are even willing to deal with the actual words that I posted from New Testament Scripture.

If I am wrong, then why not ask several different AI systems and other believers who oppose your position to examine every word in each Scriptural point I brought up? Why not investigate how believers throughout history have understood and defined these words in both Greek and English? How do Greek-speaking professors who live and teach in Greece understand these particular Greek words?

You are not giving me any kind of objective standard, either. What standard are you using to determine what these words actually mean? Is it the understanding of the KJV translators? Is it the understanding of Greek-speaking scholars who live and teach in Greece? Is it the historical testimony of Greek and English lexicons? Or is it simply your own interpretation, along with that of others who belong to a movement influenced by German Rationalism, which has encouraged doubt rather than faith in Scripture?


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Telling someone he is wrong does no good unless you also tell him what is right.

At least... it might prove helpful for the others reading along.
 
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ThomasMatthew said:
Yes, I'm aware of the KJV.
I don't know what a KJV believer is.
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A "KJV believer" can mean different things depending on who is using the term.
Some people simply mean someone who prefers to read and study the King James Version.
Others use it to describe a person who believes the KJV is the best English translation.
Still others use it for those who hold a "KJV-Only" position, meaning they believe the KJV is the only legitimate English Bible or that other translations are corrupt.
Because the term is used in different ways, it's usually better to ask the person what they mean by it rather than assume.
If someone called me a "KJV believer," I would probably ask: "Do you mean that I use the KJV, that I prefer the KJV, or that I believe the KJV is the only valid Bible?" Those are three very different claims
 
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