oh ok so what about the anchor stones.There are no remains of the ark on the earth. JMHO
What are they in your humble opinion. Just random massive stones with holes at the top scattered near the mountains of Ararat?
oh ok so what about the anchor stones.There are no remains of the ark on the earth. JMHO
Why would you say that? I know some claim that the wood would have been decayed by now. The people who say this are expressing their ignorance. The Bible is very clear, Noah covered the wood of the ark with pitch "within and without". Most people would have pitched the boat on the outside to keep the water from getting in the ship. There is no reason to pitch the wood within, it would make the inside of the ship messy and smelly. The only reason to do this is because God wanted to preserve the wood for thousands of years.There are no remains of the ark on the earth. JMHO
Why would you say that? I know some claim that the wood would have been decayed by now. The people who say this are expressing their ignorance. The Bible is very clear, Noah covered the wood of the ark with pitch "within and without". Most people would have pitched the boat on the outside to keep the water from getting in the ship. There is no reason to pitch the wood within, it would make the inside of the ship messy and smelly. The only reason to do this is because God wanted to preserve the wood for thousands of years.
Like...Antarctica? Where in your opinion, which is so humble? IDKNo big deal. Pitch was used to seal boats from that era. If it had come to rest in an area of climate conditions supporting preservation, I could see it surviving. It come to rest on the top of Mount Ariat. What have the conditions been since then.
IMHO, if God had wanted the ark to survive into the future, He would have found a much better place for it to come to rest.
The reason other boats that age would all be gone is because they would have been stripped of the wood. But this boat was left on top of the mountain and everyone inside would have gone down the mountain. Everything about Noah's ark is unique because God intended for it to be preserved.No big deal. Pitch was used to seal boats from that era. If it had come to rest in an area of climate conditions supporting preservation, I could see it surviving. It come to rest on the top of Mount Ariat. What have the conditions been since then.
IMHO, if God had wanted the ark to survive into the future, He would have found a much better place for it to come to rest.
No, it was disassembled and repurposed ~5,000 years ago.Is Noah's ark in Turkey?
No, that is why the ark came to rest on the top of the mountain. When they left the ark they went down the mountain. God purposely made it so the ark would be preserved. How do we know that? Because he had Noah pitch the ark within and without.No, it was disassembled and repurposed ~5,000 years ago.
What they couldn't salvage they used for firewood.
Also they left the ark at the end of October, so they go down to the valley, make a shelter for the winter, and by next Spring the ark has gone through one full winter and the process of burying it in snow and ice and landslide has fully begun.No, that is why the ark came to rest on the top of the mountain. When they left the ark they went down the mountain. God purposely made it so the ark would be preserved. How do we know that? Because he had Noah pitch the ark within and without.
They had horses, oxen, donkeys, plenty of pack animals to carry everything down.
No, that is why the ark came to rest on the top of the mountain. When they left the ark they went down the mountain. God purposely made it so the ark would be preserved. How do we know that? Because he had Noah pitch the ark within and without.
They had horses, oxen, donkeys, plenty of pack animals to carry everything down.
We're apparently reading two completely different books.Also they left the ark at the end of October, so they go down to the valley, make a shelter for the winter, and by next Spring the ark has gone through one full winter and the process of burying it in snow and ice and landslide has fully begun.
The second month was based on a calendar where Rosh Hashanah is the first day of the year. That is going to be in September.We're apparently reading two completely different books.
Genesis 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of AraratChapter and verse?
So now read what you wrote and see if you can spot the difference. Take your time.Genesis 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat
This describes a mountain range. I said that since Ararat is 16,000 feet high the other mountains in this range would be of similar height. Obviously we don't know the exact location from Genesis, but what we do know is that the ark came to rest on top of a very tall mountain range. It is unusual for anyone to intentionally live above 5,000 feet. There are mining towns that high, a cattle ranch rarely operates above 10,000 feet. It can be unhealthy for cattle to live above 5,000 feet. So even though there are such places with special species of animals, it would not have made sense for Noah who could go anywhere to do that.So now read what you wrote and see if you can spot the difference. Take your time.
This describes a mountain range. I said that since Ararat is 16,000 feet high the other mountains in this range would be of similar height. Obviously we don't know the exact location from Genesis, but what we do know is that the ark came to rest on top of a very tall mountain range. It is unusual for anyone to intentionally live above 5,000 feet. There are mining towns that high, a cattle ranch rarely operates above 10,000 feet. It can be unhealthy for cattle to live above 5,000 feet. So even though there are such places with special species of animals, it would not have made sense for Noah who could go anywhere to do that.
The highest elevation for forests in Turkey is around 6,000 feet. The valley at the base of Mount Ararat is 3,000 feet. I would think the best location for Noah to build a house and have a ranch would be between teh 3,000 feet and 6,000 feet with the timber right there.
Yes. I don't know either, but what I am saying is that the two main reasons people say it wouldn't are not valid.At that point timber could have been anywhere or nowhere nearby. It was all scattered as no trees were standing other than those buried upright. I agree with your deduction though.
If the atmosphere was similar then as now, there would be little to no reason to remain with the ark after provisions were depleted.
There's no reason imho to burn the ark.
It was a sound shelter. I don't think we have enough information to deduce for certain anything. Neither is the preservation of the ark necessary as a physical sign to boost our faith.
Considering the nature of God, He would provide whatever they needed for the blessings and abundance of all He kept alive. How and where He did that is not important, but back to the subject....
Does the ark still exist?
I hope so and like other archaeological discoveries, would be one more reason for the lost to believe the Bible. Those who have eyes to see will believe and those who don't won't believe even if one came back from the dead.
True, that makes senseYes. I don't know either, but what I am saying is that the two main reasons people say it wouldn't are not valid.
1. Noah pitched the ark within and without, that would have protected it from rotting away.
I'm going to speculate that the ark would eventually be revered and a famous landmark. I would be surprised if a city were not built below it and monuments to it's existence and perhaps to God. That's just my hypothesis and nothing more. After thousands of years, there would have been many changes.2. The Ark came to rest on the top of a mountain range that is around 13,000 to 16,000 feet in elevation. No one is going to want to climb 10,000 feet to cannibalize a boat and then drag the lumber back down 10,000 feet when you have forests right there. Also the trees would not have been destroyed by the flood even if they were uprooted.
I'm going to speculate that this discovery will help them push the Noahide laws which they will use to outlaw the preaching of Jesus Christ as Messiah.True, that makes sense
I'm going to speculate that the ark would eventually be revered and a famous landmark. I would be surprised if a city were not built below it and monuments to it's existence and perhaps to God. That's just my hypothesis and nothing more. After thousands of years, there would have been many changes.