Is the Devil bound right now...?

[MarcR]

If we look at the horrendous attrocities perpetrated by ISIS and others, it should be obvious that he is not bound.

 

[Bookends]

Scripture disagrees with you according to several texts. Mark 3:27 and the gospel of Matthew repeats what Christ stated about entering the strong man's housed and take his goods unless He first bind him. The place is Hades, which is also the pit mentioned in Rev 20:3. Christ came to redeem this world and states in John 12:31 that he will cast out the ruler of this world and prevent him from fully exercising his power which is through death.
There is a icon of the resurrection of Christ that goes back to the second century. It depicts Christ literally exploding out of hades and in his hand he has the hand of a man and women (Adam and Eve). Christ decended into hades and took captive those who where held captive by death. Christ restored life to mankind and the world by His resurrection.

Another icon of the second coming, called the Last Judgement. It shows Christ in splendor on His throne presiding over the judgement of mankind. The fate of every soul will be decided. Below Christ lies Satan in the pit but no longer bound. He is gathering all those who in life partook of his vineyard and now are swallowed in eternal death.

The kingdom of Satan after the fall of man was this world. He had absolute power in this world. This is emphasized in the temptations of Christ. Satan was able to tempt Jesus by stating that he could give to Jesus all the authority over these kingdoms. Luke 4:5-6.

Satan is limited in this world now that Christ was resurrected and rules the earth. The path from man to God was restored by Christ be restoring life to man and the world.

As much as some Protestants follow Augustine's teachings you should also follow him on this issue. He stated that the devil was bound and the saints reign with Christ a thousand years. The Church is the Kingdom of Christ. Augustine believed that Rev 20 and in particular the thousand years refers to the history of the Church.
Believing that Satan is not bound now is a direct renunciation of Christ's Incarnation and His victory over death.

I pretty much agree with you. However, Satan's power always had limitations which were set by God, read Job. Since the ascension Satan's power has been greatly reduced so that the gospel can spread to all earthly kingdoms. Satan can't stop it and is powerless against it. While I believe this binding is for our church age since the 1st century, Christ's victory on the Cross over death is not Christ binding Satan, it is the victory over death. I believe the two are related but not the same thing.

 

[Bookends]

If we look at the horrendous attrocities perpetrated by ISIS and others, it should be obvious that he is not bound.

So you believe if God took Satan out man would be incapable of sinning and denying Him. Take Satan out and everything gets better huh?

Lets Blame it all on Satan people, pass the blame...history of man kind.

 

[popeye]

I sense a mean spirit about you along with a touch of arrogance.

Uh,hello? Your post is a personal put down. Off topic.

Having a little difficulty with the debate are we?

Maybe you need to go chill and take a break

 

[Bowman]

If we look at the horrendous attrocities perpetrated by ISIS and others, it should be obvious that he is not bound.

ISIS is islam, and islam has always worshiped the Devil - but that still does not mean that Satan has been released.

Revelation plainly states that Satan will have his worshipers...just as God has His worshipers....the worship of either still takes place even though either party has yet to come into the presence of each...

 

[Cassian]

I pretty much agree with you. However, Satan's power always had limitations which were set by God, read Job. Since the ascension Satan's power has been greatly reduced so that the gospel can spread to all earthly kingdoms. Satan can't stop it and is powerless against it. While I believe this binding is for our church age since the 1st century, Christ's victory on the Cross over death is not Christ binding Satan, it is the victory over death. I believe the two are related but not the same thing.

You are certainly free to believe what you will, however scripture equates them. Christ came Incarnated to defeat death, thus Satan who had the absolute power of death.

 

[VCO]

All,

Looking for scriptural positions regarding if Satan is presently bound...

You will be looking and not finding until CHRIST returns setting foot on Mount of Olives splitting it in half.

The existence of ISIS should tell you Satan is ALIVE, WELL, AND VERY ACTIVE.

Zechariah 14:4 (NKJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.

Luke 8:31 (ISV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Then the demons began begging Jesus not to order them to go into the bottomless pit.

Revelation 20:1-2 (ESV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,

The thousand year reign of Jesus Christ is the SAME thousand years that Satan will be bound. UNTIL THEN, Satan remains LOOSE and VERY ACTIVE.

YES, I have heard Pentecostals and Charismatics erroneously pray, "I bind you Satan." That ERROR is a result of knowing VERY LITTLE about the practices of Judaism, and an total misunderstanding of this verse:

Matthew 16:19 (ASV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

THAT is a common practice of the Jewish Priests, but it DOES NOT REFER TO BINDING SATAN. It was part of disciplining a disobedient believer.

Deuteronomy 11:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] "You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead.

This is a Jewish Soldier, probably at the Wailing Wall praying.
NOTICE the Tefillin box on his forehead and the end of the leather strap wrapped round and round his hand and forearm. INSIDE that Tefillin box is a small scroll with the Law of God written on it. Sometimes it is also written inside the leather strap. THEY are literally binding the Law of God to themselves as instructed in Deut 11:18.

NOW understanding that the LAW of GOD was to be Bound to them when praying, if they were striving to walk in obedience to the Law; it will be easier then to understand the rest of the discipline the Jewish Priest handed out to the disobedient.

When confronting a member of the congregation who was living in sin; if that person REFUSED to Repent; the Jewish Priest would say "The Law of God was bound to you, but because you REFUSE to Repent, I now bind your sins to you, until you really do REPENT." When the sinner finally repented, the Jewish Priest would say, "I now loose you from your sins."

THAT is what MAT. 16:19 is referring to. JESUS is giving the Church permission to discipline it's members who refuse to repent.

Never do we have the authority to bind Satan. THAT authority is given by GOD to a special Angel from heaven.

 

[Bowman]

You will be looking and not finding until CHRIST returns setting foot on Mount of Olives splitting it in half.

The existence of ISIS should tell you Satan is ALIVE, WELL, AND VERY ACTIVE.



Zechariah 14:4 (NKJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.

Luke 8:31 (ISV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Then the demons began begging Jesus not to order them to go into the bottomless pit.

Revelation 20:1-2 (ESV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,

The thousand year reign of Jesus Christ is the SAME thousand years that Satan will be bound. UNTIL THEN, Satan remains LOOSE and VERY ACTIVE.

We can find agreement that the '1K year reign' = binding of Satan.

However....scripture clearly informs the reader that Satan was bound at the Cross, as thus...

Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might render entirely idle the one having the power of death, that is, the devil; (Heb 2.14)

 

[popeye]

Quote by vco YES, I have heard Pentecostals and Charismatics erroneously pray, "I bind you Satan." That ERROR is a result of knowing VERY LITTLE about the practices of Judaism, and an total misunderstanding of this verse:

Matthew 16:19 (ASV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Uh,they were loser than you. It is clear Jesus was giving them power..

19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

 

[popeye]

Quote by vco YES, I have heard Pentecostals and Charismatics erroneously pray, "I bind you Satan." That ERROR is a result of knowing VERY LITTLE about the practices of Judaism, and an total misunderstanding of this verse:

Matthew 16:19 (ASV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bindon earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.


19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.


It has to do with Keys (authority),the power of agreement,and answered prayer.

IOW,Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth.........it shall be done for them

Whatsoever......does that include devils???

No way around it.....it certainly does.

 

[VCO]

We can find agreement that the '1K year reign' = binding of Satan.

However....scripture clearly informs the reader that Satan was bound at the Cross, as thus...

Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might render entirely idle the one having the power of death, that is, the devil; (Heb 2.14)

Hebrews 2:14 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Now since the children have flesh and blood in common, Jesus also shared in these, so that through His death He might destroy the one holding the power of death—that is, the Devil—

Hebrews 2:14 (NKJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,

Hebrews 2:14 (ASV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Since then the children are sharers in flesh and blood, he also himself in like manner partook of the same; that through death he might bring to nought him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Hebrews 2:14 (NIV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death--that is, the devil--OKAY, I give up. I have WORDsearch 10, Bible software, with 25 English Translations; and NOT ONE OF THEM WORDED HEB. 2:14 the way your quote reads. WHAT TRANSLATION are you using? ? ? And PLEASE do not tell me the NWT.
MOST of them worded it the way the Holman's Christian Standard Bible and the New King James version did.

THAT certainly is not talking about binding Satan at the Cross. Here is the evidence from Scripture that you are trying to read into that verse, SOMETHING THAT JUST IS NOT THERE.

1 Corinthians 15:54-55 (HCSB)
[SUP]54 [/SUP] When this corruptible is clothed with incorruptibility, and this mortal is clothed with immortality, then the saying that is written will take place: Death has been swallowed up in victory.
[SUP]55 [/SUP] Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?

1 Peter 5:8-9 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Be serious! Be alert! Your adversary the Devil is prowling around like a roaring lion, looking for anyone he can devour.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Resist him and be firm in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are being experienced by your fellow believers throughout the world.

NO WAY IS THE DEVIL ALREADY BOUND.

Dr. John MacArthur's Commentary on Heb. 2:14:

. . . By dying, He was able to conquer death in His Resurrection (John 14:19). By conquering death, He rendered Satan powerless against all who are saved. Satan’s using the power of death is subject to God’s will (cf. Job 2:6).
The MacArthur Bible Commentary.

 

[VCO]

18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.


19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.


It has to do with Keys (authority),the power of agreement,and answered prayer.

IOW,Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth.........it shall be done for them

Whatsoever......does that include devils???

No way around it.....it certainly does.

Christ’s actions mean that any duly constituted body of believers, acting in accord with God’s Word, has the authority to declare if someone is forgiven or not. The church’s authority is not to determine these things but to declare the judgment of heaven based on the principles of the Word. When churches make such judgments on the basis of God’s Word, they can be sure heaven is in accord. In other words, whatever they “bind” or “loose” on earth is already “bound” or “loosed” in heaven. When the church says the unrepentant person is bound in sin, the church is saying what God says about that person. When the church acknowledges that a repentant person has been loosed from that sin, God agrees.

The MacArthur Bible Commentary.

JESUS EVEN REPEATED IT showing that He meant the Authority that is SPECIFICALLY LINKED TO CHURCH DISCIPLINE OF AN UNREPENTANT MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION:


Matthew 18:15-18 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But if he won’t listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] If he pays no attention to them, tell the church. But if he doesn’t pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] I assure you: Whatever you bind on earth is already bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is already loosedin heaven.

You are the one who is reading into His teachings on Binding and Loosing, something that JUST IS NOT THERE.

 

[popeye]

JESUS EVEN REPEATED IT showing that He meant the Authority that is SPECIFICALLY LINKED TO CHURCH DISCIPLINE OF AN UNREPENTANT MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION:


Matthew 18:15-18 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But if he won’t listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] If he pays no attention to them, tell the church. But if he doesn’t pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] I assure you: Whatever you bind on earth is already bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is already loosedin heaven.

You are the one who is reading into His teachings on Binding and Loosing, something that JUST IS NOT THERE.

Ok then,just pretend that when two agree in prayer that Jesus was confused and it really doesn't matter if one prays or 2 pray in agreement.

18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Hard to find a way to negate it....and ,in your mind that is all you did,for your "teaching" profits nothing or noone.

Note,that for some reason you chose an inferior rendering "is already" as opposed to the proper rendering "shall be" (could be it fits the case you are making)

Is 'authority' of the believer that big a deal to you?

Is there any such thing as the power of agreement?

Just trying to figure out your motive for making such a big deal out of something so obvious and simple. Nobody is going to read that and assume it has ANYTHING to do with rabbis being bound to law.

Lets see,If my brother is in sin,then I am going to "loose" him in heaven......how?

When confronting a member of the congregation who was living in sin; if that person REFUSED to Repent; the Jewish Priest would say "The Law of God was bound to you, but because you REFUSE to Repent, I now bind your sins to you, until you really do REPENT." When the sinner finally repented, the Jewish Priest would say, "I now loose you from your sins."

THAT is what MAT. 16:19 is referring to. JESUS is giving the Church permission to discipline it's members who refuse to repent.

And so,in your mind the following verse makes total sense right;?


19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
So,in your mind,this;
"That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven."
...has nothing to do with praying and getting an answer,but refers to someone in sin that is being shunned??????

Lets look further to get the entire scope;

mat 16;17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

Wow,Jesus forgot the context of binding and loosing.Jesus mistakenly placed shunning a brother in the context of authority.

it is simple truth. No way around it......Binding and loosing is in fact AUTHORITY,ANSWERED PRAYER,AND THE POWER OF AGREEMENT.

Note that right after Jesus asserts the authority of the believer "binding and loosing",he is telling them he must go to the cross. So,using your template of "one continuous thought exegesis",we must conclude that "binding and loosing" must refer to Jesus being bound and later loosed from the cross?

 

[Cassian]

VCO,

NO WAY IS THE DEVIL ALREADY BOUND.

So, based on scripture, if Satan is not bound, then man and the world is still under the condemnation of death with no remedy in sight. So, it is your interpretation that Christ has not yet come, though scripture proclaims that He did, or that Christ failed in His mission as stated in Heb 2:14-17 or I John 3:8? Or even Rev 20:2.

What texts recind the statments of scripture to the contrary?

 

[VCO]

VCO,


So, based on scripture, if Satan is not bound, then man and the world is still under the condemnation of death with no remedy in sight. So, it is your interpretation that Christ has not yet come, though scripture proclaims that He did, or that Christ failed in His mission as stated in Heb 2:14-17 or I John 3:8? Or even Rev 20:2.

What texts recind the statments of scripture to the contrary?

NO, Christ's mission was at TOTAL success and the SECOND DEATH has NO POWER OVER BELIEVERS:

Revelation 20:6 (YLT)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Happy and holy is he who is having part in the first rising again; over these the second death hath not authority, but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

That is the VICTORY OVER DEATH that HE provided on the Cross.

BUT THAT IS NOT BINDING SATAN. THIS HOWEVER IS:


Revelation 20:1-3 (NRSV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
[SUP]3 [/SUP] and threw him into the pit, and locked and sealed it over him, so that he would deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be let out for a little while.

THAT IS AFTER THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST!

You are desperately trying to add meaning to the binding in reference to Church discipline, THAT JUST IS NOT THERE. All because you LOVE to think you have power to bind Satan; when you do NOT. I REPEAT:

JESUS EVEN REPEATED IT showing that what He was talking about, is the Authority that is SPECIFICALLY LINKED TO CHURCH DISCIPLINE OF AN UNREPENTANT MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION:


Matthew 18:15-18 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]But if he won’t listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]If he pays no attention to them, tell the church. But if he doesn’t pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]I assure you: Whatever you bind on earth is already bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is already loosed in heaven.

RULE #1: READ THE WHOLE CONTEXT TO AVOID MIS-INTERPRETATION about what HE is talking about.


Jude 1:9 (NRSV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But when the archangel Michael contended with the devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

AND you run around erroneously thinking you have authority to say, "I bind you Satan." NOT EVEN MICHAEL HAD THAT KIND OF AUTHORITY.

 

[Cassian]

VCO,

NO, Christ's mission was at TOTAL success and the SECOND DEATH has NO POWER OVER BELIEVERS:

Which is not only irrelevant to the issue, but by His redemptive work made the second death a reality. He did not end the possibility of the second death, but instituted it.

Revelation 20:6 (YLT)
6 Happy and holy is he who is having part in the first rising again; over these the second death hath not authority, but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Which reign is in progress now and ONLY because Christ defeated death, physical death is the second death even a possibility.

That is the VICTORY OVER DEATH that HE provided on the Cross.

Which is irrelevant to the topic. What you are addressing is the avenue of forgiveness of sin for a believer which again would be impossible unless Christ defeated death.

BUT THAT IS NOT BINDING SATAN. THIS HOWEVER IS:
Revelation 20:1-3 (NRSV)
1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain.
2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
3 and threw him into the pit, and locked and sealed it over him, so that he would deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be let out for a little while.
THAT IS AFTER THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST!

You are correct regarding the binding but it occurred as a result of His first advent, not His second. Actually it depicts His first coming which is why you are so far off of the understanding regarding the binding of Satan.

You are desperately trying to add meaning to the binding in reference to Church discipline, THAT JUST IS NOT THERE. All because you LOVE to think you have power to bind Satan; when you do NOT. I REPEAT:
JESUS EVEN REPEATED IT showing that what He was talking about, is the Authority that is SPECIFICALLY LINKED TO CHURCH DISCIPLINE OF AN UNREPENTANT MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION.
Matthew 18:15-18 (HCSB)
15 “If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother.
16 But if he won’t listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.
17 If he pays no attention to them, tell the church. But if he doesn’t pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you.
18 I assure you: Whatever you bind on earth is already bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is already loosed in heaven.
RULE #1: READ THE WHOLE CONTEXT TO AVOID MIS-INTERPRETATION about what HE is talking about.

Jude 1:9 (NRSV)
9 But when the archangel Michael contended with the devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"
AND you run around erroneously thinking you have authority to say, "I bind you Satan." NOT EVEN MICHAEL HAD THAT KIND OF AUTHORITY.

this has nothing to do with my statement and it surely has nothing to do with the binding of Satan.

 

[VCO]

VCO,

Which is not only irrelevant to the issue, but by His redemptive work made the second death a reality. He did not end the possibility of the second death, but instituted it.

Which reign is in progress now and ONLY because Christ defeated death, physical death is the second death even a possibility.

Which is irrelevant to the topic. What you are addressing is the avenue of forgiveness of sin for a believer which again would be impossible unless Christ defeated death.
You are correct regarding the binding but it occurred as a result of His first advent, not His second. Actually it depicts His first coming which is why you are so far off of the understanding regarding the binding of Satan.

this has nothing to do with my statement and it surely has nothing to do with the binding of Satan.

I notice you do not use any SCRIPTURE to support your Theories.

 

[Cassian]

I notice you do not use any SCRIPTURE to support your Theories.

If you have been following the discussion of the thread you would have known all of the texts used to support the binding of Satan.

However, the texts I used on my first reply to you have not been addressed. You have not put forth any texts to recind what scripture proclaims.

 

[popeye]

The issue seems to be is the millineum future or has Jesus already thrown Satan in the bottomless pit in chains. Because there is nothing but conjecture associated with Satan being bound at the cross

 

[Cassian]

The issue seems to be is the millineum future or has Jesus already thrown Satan in the bottomless pit in chains. Because there is nothing but conjecture associated with Satan being bound at the cross

Quite the contrary. There is no future millennium in the first place.

Secondly, Heb 2:14-17 states that through death Christ defeated Satan. Death occurred on the Cross but it is His resurrection that actually bound Satan and freed mankind from the power of death by which Satan had absolute control over man and God' creation. Christ broke the bonds that held mankind in bondage to death and Satan.
I have already shown where and how scripture supports the binding of Satan by Christ through death, His Incarnation and resurrection.