Is The Earth Spinning?

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pckts

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BeyondET said:
First things first I need the info on your model of the different lengths of day at different times during the year.
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If we do first things first you should respond to all my ignored points and questions poised to you first. I only want one addressed:

Do you now agree that stopping the rotation of earth alone will not stop the sun from moving in the sky on the heliocentric model?

P.S lol I can't believe you said first things first because you wanted to ignore something.
 
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pckts said:
If we do first things first you should respond to all my ignored points and questions poised to you first. I only want one addressed:

Do you now agree that stopping the rotation of earth alone will not stop the sun from moving in the sky on the heliocentric model?
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If the earth stopped rotating there would be one side facing the sun at all times. The sun would stay in the same point in the sky and bake the side of the earth facing it to a crispy critter and the dark side would be a dark winter nightmare.
 
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BeyondET

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pckts said:
If we do first things first you should respond to all my ignored points and questions poised to you first. I only want one addressed:

Do you now agree that stopping the rotation of earth alone will not stop the sun from moving in the sky on the heliocentric model?
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The sun doesn't move it spins in a stationary position and all the planets rotates around the sun as well as our solar system rotates around the galaxy just like our earth moves around the sun. The sun spins to but the sun is in the middle of our solar system and shines 360 degrees in all direction.
 
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BeyondET said:
The sun doesn't move it spins in a stationary position and all the planets rotates around the sun as well as our solar system rotates around the galaxy just like our earth moves around the sun. The sun spins to but the sun is in the middle of our solar system and shines 360 degrees in all direction.
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Technically the sun wobbles a bit, precessing around the center of mass of the entire solar system. But it's negligible.

Was actually going to point that out earlier ((smart aleck that post is)) but our friend linked an article I assume pedantically states the same thing, as though it's some kind of nefarious conspiracy. ;)
 
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BeyondET

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posthuman said:
Technically the sun wobbles a bit, precessing around the center of mass of the entire solar system. But it's negligible.

Was actually going to point that out earlier ((smart aleck that post is)) but our friend linked an article I assume pedantically states the same thing, as though it's some kind of nefarious conspiracy. ;)
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Indeed my friend, I've read some on what's is called the Barycenter.
 
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BeyondET

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Arrg it won't show it o well it was a picture of the solar system barycenter
 
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BeyondET said:
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Arrg it won't show it o well it was a picture of the solar system barycenter
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like this :)



and it turns out i was wrong, the barycenter of our system isn't (always) as close to the center of the sun as i thought - which makes sense, actually. the .gif above shows only two bodies, but there are multiple planets, many moons, an asteroid belt and an Oort cloud etc. in the solar system, all orbiting at different angles and with different periods, so the center of the solar systems mass ((hey weren't we talking about center of mass earlier?)) isn't a fixed point. it's been tracked over several decades, as the image below illustrates:

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posthuman said:
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and it turns out i was wrong, the barycenter of our system isn't (always) as close to the center of the sun as i thought - which makes sense, actually. the .gif above shows only two bodies, but there are multiple planets, many moons, an asteroid belt and an Oort cloud etc. in the solar system, all orbiting at different angles and with different periods, so the center of the solar systems mass ((hey weren't we talking about center of mass earlier?)) isn't a fixed point. it's been tracked over several decades, as the image below illustrates:

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Excellent post thanks, yup I too seem to have been wrong about the center of things. It seems the only thing fixed in our solar system is our sun. though on a galactic scale that probably isn't either. hehe.
 
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BeyondET said:
The Earth takes 365.24 days to orbit the sun. As we move around the Sun during the year, the amount of light each area of the planet receives varies in length.
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However, during the entire cycle of ~365 days, the amount of light each area receives is exactly the same amount of light that the complimentary opposite area receives ( i.e. - 75 degrees North versus 75 degrees South ) - only, they are six months apart in the cycle.

Why don't the North Pole region and South Pole region have the same seasonal patterns?

Why does it never get as warm in the South as it does in the North? It gets the same amount of light as the North.

Why does the North have lots of plant and animal life, etc. -- when the South does not - to the point of absolute zero?

Why are they not "balanced" -- or, even remotely similar...???


BeyondET said:
north pole never points directly at the Sun.
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EXACTLY!

So -- I repeat the above questions...

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GaryA

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BeyondET said:
do you think God has the ability to slow down earth while keeping everyone on earth nice and snug. Or do you think He stopped things and then God said O my what have I done now everyone on earth has been killed.
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BeyondET said:
Matt 19:26
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
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Do you think God has the ability to create a flat earth under a dome of some sort with the sun, moon, and stars rotating above? :eek:

I mean - like the scripture you quoted says - "with God all things are possible"... ;)

:)
 
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GaryA said:
Do you think God has the ability to create a flat earth under a dome of some sort with the sun, moon, and stars rotating above? :eek:

I mean - like the scripture you quoted says - "with God all things are possible"... ;)

:)
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Yes...but does man have the ability to keep a secret such as this with the sheer number of people involved for 6 decades? Probably not.
 
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dcontroversal said:
All I know is I have flown to Sydney, Australia and back to the U.S. 5 times.....4 times from Dallas and once from L.A.

Takes almost 17 hours non-stop from Dallas to Sydney and about 14.5 hours coming back....

Flying the Same distance, Same speed and Same Height above the Earth....................
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Assuming that last line to be true, why would the actual flight time from Dallas to Sydney not be about the same as the actual flight time from Sydney to Dallas?

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Sirk said:
Yes...but does man have the ability to keep a secret such as this with the sheer number of people involved for 6 decades? Probably not.
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You don't know your enemy Satan very well, do you...?

You don't understand the Luciferian agenda and "blood oaths" that are the basis for a lot of "kept" secrets.

Besides --- they don't have any problem keeping secrets as long as the masses swallow the lies they tell... ;)

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Sirk said:
Yes...but does man have the ability to keep a secret such as this with the sheer number of people involved for 6 decades? Probably not.
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I think if you were to draw the conclusion the moon landing was fake first, you would be much more receptive to the possibility of the earth being flat. The government made many of the moon landing documentaries and they are intentionally bad, I PM'ed you a credible one on February 16th. The moon hoax is much more apparent, and has I guess been kept a "secret", but most everyone knows that people have their doubts about it.
 
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pckts said:
The only facts I gave were the Scriptures that support Flat Earth Theory...
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The above sentence doesn't make sense. If you have facts then your theory is no longer a theory but rather it is factual truth. That's like saying Jesus' divinity is a theory. It's not a theory, its a fact.
 
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Utah said:
The above sentence doesn't make sense. If you have facts then your theory is no longer a theory but rather it is factual truth. That's like saying Jesus' divinity is a theory. It's not a theory, its a fact.
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Facts can support part of a theory, without being able to prove the entire theory.

That is why I stated I gave Scriptures that support Flat Earth Theory, instead of stating I gave scriptures that prove Flat Earth Theory.
 
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pckts said:
On the Flat Earth Model the stars move in a circular patter and the earth is stationary. You don't know this though and I have to slowly teach you the theory step by step.
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At 6:00pm, the three stars that make up Orion's Belt are at a vertical position to one another from our viewpoint, but at 10:00pm those same three stars are at a horizontal position. All the while they are "moving" westward. Seems to me this is caused by a circular Earth spinning on its axis rather than a flat, stationary Earth having the stars moving around us.
 
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pckts said:
Facts can support part of a theory, without being able to prove the entire theory.

That is why I stated I gave Scriptures that support Flat Earth Theory, instead of stating I gave scriptures that prove Flat Earth Theory.
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Good point. Thank you.
 
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Utah said:
At 6:00pm, the three stars that make up Orion's Belt are at a vertical position to one another from our viewpoint, but at 10:00pm those same three stars are at a horizontal position. All the while they are "moving" westward. Seems to me this is caused by a circular Earth spinning on its axis rather than a flat, stationary Earth having the stars moving around us.
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Yes I agree it does seem that way to you.

And thank you for acknowledging my defense to your other claim, I am not use to this kind of fair tactic and kind treatment on the conspiracy forum!
 
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