Is the serpent in Genesis Satan?

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Rev 12:9 says

The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

so there is no doubt the serpent is Satan
 

p_rehbein

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If you know that the devil led Adam and Eve astray in the Garden, and know enough to realize the danger of this, how, exactly, do you remain "unsure" of what your Spiritual Status is/should be?

Will pray you come to terms with this very soon.........
 
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Rev 12:9 says

The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

so there is no doubt the serpent is Satan
There is doubt. Revelation is not Genesis.
 
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Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

God gave Adam and Eve a choice and that is why the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was in the garden.

It would of never entered the mind of Adam and Eve to eat of the tree unless an outside source tempted them.

So God allowed the serpent to tempt Eve and she said they could not eat of the tree for that is all she could think and know.

So the serpent tempted Eve by telling her an alternate reality that if they ate of the tree they would have an elevated position from their current status.

So Eve ate and sinned, then she was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him that she did not die, and nothing bad happened to her, and he ate and sinned.

The fallen angels already fell when God started creation, and all of creation He said was good.

There is only one being that would be evil to tempt Eve to sin, and that is the devil who is Satan.
 
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Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

God gave Adam and Eve a choice and that is why the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was in the garden.

It would of never entered the mind of Adam and Eve to eat of the tree unless an outside source tempted them.

So God allowed the serpent to tempt Eve and she said they could not eat of the tree for that is all she could think and know.

So the serpent tempted Eve by telling her an alternate reality that if they ate of the tree they would have an elevated position from their current status.

So Eve ate and sinned, then she was the outside source that tempted Adam by showing him that she did not die, and nothing bad happened to her, and he ate and sinned.

The fallen angels already fell when God started creation, and all of creation He said was good.

There is only one being that would be evil to tempt Eve to sin, and that is the devil who is Satan.
so Satan and all other Satans were forced to crawl on their bellies?
 
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so Satan and all other Satans were forced to crawl on their bellies?
Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

I think it is a reference to Satan being brought low, and will soon be defeated, for it speaks of enmity between the serpent and the woman, and between the wicked and the good, and the good shall bruise the head of the serpent, but the serpent shall bruise the heel of the good.

Which Jesus was crucified which represents the people that are with God, but Jesus shall defeat Satan in which he shall not bother anyone anymore.

How would that apply to the snake that snakes and people will be enemies, and how will the people bruise the head of the snake, but the snake shall bruise people's heel.

It would not apply to snakes so it applies to the devil.

It is a reference to Satan being brought low, and enemies between the wicked and those with God, and Satan shall bother the people of God, by the wicked, but Jesus will defeat Satan.

Which the Bible warns us of the new age movement that will pave the way to the beast kingdom, and when they follow the New Age Christ then God will put them down and end sin on earth.

Which the new age movement believes Lucifer did not fall in to sin and disgrace, but descended from Venus to being the principle of mind to the then animal-man, and will come in the future to help people to evolve to be greater and spiritual.

Just like Lucifer led a rebellion against God in heaven, he will lead a rebellion against God on earth, and then sin is over, and God will have His people will Him, and the wicked shall proceed no farther.

And God said there would be a lot of hypocrites at this time in case anyone thinks Christianity is not true because of the hypocrites.

But Jesus said the hypocrites do not belong to Him, and God said in a great house there are some to dishonor.

The new age movement interprets the Bible according to the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ.

The Bible says the time will come that the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to the new age movement.

But God has to end sin on earth one day, and He will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him, so He is allowing the new age movement to deceive all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and push the agenda of the new age movement to prepare the wicked to follow him when he claims to be God by evolving through nature.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
Isa 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Isa 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

When Lucifer fell his name became Satan to identify with his new nature.

Lucifer will influence the New Age Christ to deceive the world, and will be punished because of it.

Lucifer did fall in to sin and disgrace.

The new age movement is deceiving the world, but the devil is deceiving them for the new age movement is of seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

The new age movement would want to defend Lucifer.
 

soberxp

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Of crouse The serpent in genesis.
The serpent uses their stomach to walk,
So serpent can't walk correct directions and walk a roundabout course in their life.Self explanatory.

Revelation 12:9

I think these are metaphors.
If all human sins are attributed to serpent,It's kind of incredible。

What can serpent do in reality? Make a dish and serve on the table?LOL
 

soberxp

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re~pent
ser~pent
SER,Social & Environmental Responsibility
hmm....some kind of
 

posthuman

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There is doubt. Revelation is not Genesis.
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.
(Genesis 3:15)
The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
(Romans 16:20)
what do you think? why would you have any doubt?
 
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it doesn't say anywhere in the Bible 'the serpent in Genesis was Satan'
 
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There is doubt. Revelation is not Genesis.

It is same spirit of error that does not have a literal body . And therefore gets behind or supports men seen, like Peter in Mathew 16. And not our behind or supported to represent our father not seen (the law of faith)

The Father gave prophecy to the Son of man the apostle Jesus. . words to rebuke the spirit of error. . Because the Son of man has no power the lord rebuked the father of lies.

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the the Son of man seen a 33 year opportunity. . The power to forgive Blasphemy just like to rebuke does not come after corrupter dying flesh and blood. what the eyes see but rather by faith the unseen hidden will

(Purple in parenthesis) my added comment.

Mathew 16: 21-23 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, (by the father)and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, The lord (not seen) Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

No faith coming from our unseen God. (The things of God) but rather walking by sight (the things of men.

Just as he put his lying thought on the serpents lips. .as a false apostle (sent one) Making Peter into a false apostle. Not sent of God.
 

Prycejosh1987

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I would say Satan inhibited a snake, and caused it to talk. Satan does counterfeit miracles to God. Remember the plagues of Egypt and Israel as slaves and what happened with the Egyptian miracle workers. They tried to counterfeit God and i believe the devil was around and causing the oppression etc.