Is the Vaccine the Mark of the Beast (MOTB)?

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kinda

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I wish they'd hurry up and build the temple...then we could get on with things!
Talk about fireworks!
Though I don't expect to be around to see it!
If nothing else, all the stupid arguing about things would stop!
I like your new avatar picture. Agree there is to much fighting.
 

kinda

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I understand the point you're trying to make. But Einstein was a left-wing, plagiarizing scumbag. He probably was spreading communist propaganda.
You are the first person that I ever seen write something nasty about Albert Einstein. How was he plagiarizing? I find that you calling Einstein a scumbag, a pretty nasty statement. Why you didn't mention anything positive about Einstein? Just curious.

He helped end WWII, helped in science, and also in philosophy. I see Einstein as an asset to society from my perspective.
 
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You are the first person that I ever seen write something nasty about Albert Einstein. How was he plagiarizing?
Einstein plagiarized the theory of relativity from Lorentz. He didn't cite the guy that actually did the math. That is plagiarism. Einstein had good marketing behind him.

I find that you calling Einstein a scumbag, a pretty nasty statement. Why you didn't mention anything positive about Einstein? Just curious.
I've got people that I like and people I don't. Tesla was an absolute genius and a moral man.

He helped end WWII, helped in science, and also in philosophy.
Did you know that there was a budding Christian community in Japan before and during WW2? Did you know that those Christians were all killed by our bomb on Nagasaki? By sheer coincidence the bomb was dropped right near the church, the only Christian church in the entire nation. Or was it coincidence?? I would really be interested to know who made the targeting decisions on that one. I would bet that whoever made that choice wasn't a Christian. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Christians were the real target that day.

BTW, did you know that the bombs had very little to do with why the Japanese surrendered? Japan surrendered because the Russians were declaring war on them. Not because of our bombs

I see Einstein as an asset to society from my perspective.
Leftists are never an asset to any society. Communism is so close to satanism it's almost indistinguishable. Einstein was of the left. He even founded a left wing political party in Germany. He was also for gays.

Stop just blindly trusting the stories that your enemies tell you. They want you to idolize Christ haters. They want you to cheer when Christians are murdered. They are not your friends.
 
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You are the first person that I ever seen write something nasty about Albert Einstein. How was he plagiarizing? I find that you calling Einstein a scumbag, a pretty nasty statement. Why you didn't mention anything positive about Einstein? Just curious.

He helped end WWII, helped in science, and also in philosophy. I see Einstein as an asset to society from my perspective.
Lol Einstein was a Jew.?
 

studentoftheword

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I personally don't think that the Vaccine is the mark of the Beast -----that being said --I don't think this Vaccine or other vaccines are from God either --------if you do some research on vaccines you will find that many of these vaccines may be using fetal cells in their development ----and that will not be OK with God in my view ----

Article on this ----
https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/are-human-fetal-cells-used-make-some-vaccines

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Now here is something that might be considered as just may be the Future mark of the Beast ---and that is the Verichip ---which in some countries are the Norm ---it is a chip the size of a grain of rice and is embedded in the hand of a person ----they have been using in pets for years now so you can track your pet if they get lost -----

Sweden is leading the way for the verichip
21 Feb 2019
The rise of biotechnology means that for more people even the most cutting-edge smartphones are becoming out of date. Having a microchip inserted under the skin is increasingly the way to go, nowhere more so than in Sweden. Thousands of Swedes now use the technology, attending "implant parties" to have chips inserted to replace their gym cards, national IDs and even train tickets. Al Jazeera's Paul Rhys reports from Lund.

2 and a half min video ---

 
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A chip can be cut out. Some kind of perhaps invisible mark technology combined with what paralyzed people use. Where even if one's skin was removed, it would be useless without the mind's involvement. Perhaps Neuro-link technology will be involved.
They are probably years ahead of what we are aware of. But I will not take the jab!
 
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If I was betting money, I'd bet that the vax isn't the mark. But the stakes in making that gamble are much higher than money. I'm not gonna bet my soul that it isn't the mark!
 
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I believe that the vax is part of a plan that will bring in the mark.
 

lawrence101

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I personally don't think that the Vaccine is the mark of the Beast -----that being said --I don't think this Vaccine or other vaccines are from God either --------if you do some research on vaccines you will find that many of these vaccines may be using fetal cells in their development ----and that will not be OK with God in my view ----

Article on this ----
https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/are-human-fetal-cells-used-make-some-vaccines

I say
Now here is something that might be considered as just may be the Future mark of the Beast ---and that is the Verichip ---which in some countries are the Norm ---it is a chip the size of a grain of rice and is embedded in the hand of a person ----they have been using in pets for years now so you can track your pet if they get lost -----

Sweden is leading the way for the verichip
21 Feb 2019
The rise of biotechnology means that for more people even the most cutting-edge smartphones are becoming out of date. Having a microchip inserted under the skin is increasingly the way to go, nowhere more so than in Sweden. Thousands of Swedes now use the technology, attending "implant parties" to have chips inserted to replace their gym cards, national IDs and even train tickets. Al Jazeera's Paul Rhys reports from Lund.

2 and a half min video ---

I have been thinking the same about the vaccine not being the MOTB , but something seems unsettling about the wording of Revelation 13:17 " And that no man might buy or sell , save he that had the mark , or the name of the beast , or the number of his name. "
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I personally don't think that the Vaccine is the mark of the Beast -----that being said --I don't think this Vaccine or other vaccines are from God either --------if you do some research on vaccines you will find that many of these vaccines may be using fetal cells in their development ----and that will not be OK with God in my view ----

Article on this ----
https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/are-human-fetal-cells-used-make-some-vaccines

I say
Now here is something that might be considered as just may be the Future mark of the Beast ---and that is the Verichip ---which in some countries are the Norm ---it is a chip the size of a grain of rice and is embedded in the hand of a person ----they have been using in pets for years now so you can track your pet if they get lost -----

Sweden is leading the way for the verichip
21 Feb 2019
The rise of biotechnology means that for more people even the most cutting-edge smartphones are becoming out of date. Having a microchip inserted under the skin is increasingly the way to go, nowhere more so than in Sweden. Thousands of Swedes now use the technology, attending "implant parties" to have chips inserted to replace their gym cards, national IDs and even train tickets. Al Jazeera's Paul Rhys reports from Lund.

2 and a half min video ---

I personally don't think that the Vaccine is the mark of the Beast -----that being said --I don't think this Vaccine or other vaccines are from God either --------if you do some research on vaccines you will find that many of these vaccines may be using fetal cells in their development ----and that will not be OK with God in my view ----

Article on this ----
https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/are-human-fetal-cells-used-make-some-vaccines

I say
Now here is something that might be considered as just may be the Future mark of the Beast ---and that is the Verichip ---which in some countries are the Norm ---it is a chip the size of a grain of rice and is embedded in the hand of a person ----they have been using in pets for years now so you can track your pet if they get lost -----

Sweden is leading the way for the verichip
21 Feb 2019
The rise of biotechnology means that for more people even the most cutting-edge smartphones are becoming out of date. Having a microchip inserted under the skin is increasingly the way to go, nowhere more so than in Sweden. Thousands of Swedes now use the technology, attending "implant parties" to have chips inserted to replace their gym cards, national IDs and even train tickets. Al Jazeera's Paul Rhys reports from Lund.

2 and a half min video ---

I have been thinking the same about the vaccine not being the MOTB , but something seems unsettling about the wording of Revelation 13:17 " And that no man might buy or sell , save he that had the mark , or the name of the beast , or the number of his name. "
So appearently there are there 3 ways to give your allegiance to the beast / world system:

1. The Mark ( injection of viral LmRNA/DNA or Verichip implant ? )
or ,
2. The name of the beast ( Yet to be revealed , Damien Thorn ? )
or ,
3. The number of his name ( which we all know is 666, Rev 13:18 )

BTW LmRNA stands for Luciferine Modified Ribonucliec Acid. Does anyone want to take something that was "modified" by Satan ?
 
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not sure if you are joking or not, but yes he was Jewish
He certainly was a Jew! As well as a genius! Did you know that he was never able to master driving? Funny how that works, eh?
 

studentoftheword

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God marked Cain with His Mark -----so could it be a number ---as it doesn't say what God used to mark Cain ----but 7 times 7 is mentioned


Genesis 4:13-16

New International Version
13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”
15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so[a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[b] east of Eden.


The Greek word for Mark --from Strong's Concordance

Strong's Concordance
charagma: a stamp, impress

5480 xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties.

5480 /xáragma ("brand-mark") was originally any impress on a coin or a seal, used by an engraver on a die (stamp, branding iron). 5480 (xáragma) later became "the identification-marker" (like with an owner's unique "brand-mark").

a. a stamp, an imprinted mark: of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of Antichrist, Revelation 13:16; Revelation 14:9, 11; Revelation 15:2

I say ----So for me it doesn't sound like the chip or the vaccine is part of the Mark of the Beast ----as it clearly says it will be a mark on the forehead or right hand ---clearly specific places given here ----- the Verichip is placed in either hand --and the vaccine is given in the arm -----my view ----
 

lawrence101

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He certainly was a Jew! As well as a genius! Did you know that he was never able to master driving? Funny how that works, eh?
Yes, and just to add alittle more trivia, his second wife was his first cousin and his first wife was his second cousin. (jk)
 
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Oblio

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I know my uncle was Jewish, and he had pretty daughters, but I never wanted to marry them! They were like my sisters...brats! Lol
 

lawrence101

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God marked Cain with His Mark -----so could it be a number ---as it doesn't say what God used to mark Cain ----but 7 times 7 is mentioned


Genesis 4:13-16

New International Version
13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”
15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so[a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[b] east of Eden.


The Greek word for Mark --from Strong's Concordance

Strong's Concordance
charagma: a stamp, impress

5480 xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties.

5480 /xáragma ("brand-mark") was originally any impress on a coin or a seal, used by an engraver on a die (stamp, branding iron). 5480 (xáragma) later became "the identification-marker" (like with an owner's unique "brand-mark").

a. a stamp, an imprinted mark: of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of Antichrist, Revelation 13:16; Revelation 14:9, 11; Revelation 15:2

I say ----So for me it doesn't sound like the chip or the vaccine is part of the Mark of the Beast ----as it clearly says it will be a mark on the forehead or right hand ---clearly specific places given here ----- the Verichip is placed in either hand --and the vaccine is given in the arm -----my view ----
Yes im aware of the definition, but the thing is perhaps the "mark" is just an identification to let the "powers that be" know that you have the vaccine? Right now here in Canada you have to show your vaccine record /card before you can enter some public places. This could very easily be changed to a digital"tattoo" on your hand or forehead. A mark on your skin or chip implant can be removed but you cannot remove a viral luminecent rna/dna injection.

Also one of the slang meanings of Mark is "a person who is easily deceived or taken advantage of. "
 

studentoftheword

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Yes im aware of the definition, but the thing is perhaps the "mark" is just an identification to let the "powers that be" know that you have the vaccine? Right now here in Canada you have to show your vaccine record /card before you can enter some public places. This could very easily be changed to a digital"tattoo" on your hand or forehead. A mark on your skin or chip implant can be removed but you cannot remove a viral luminecent rna/dna injection.

Also one of the slang meanings of Mark is "a person who is easily deceived or taken advantage of. "
I say ---you can believe whatever you want to --and if you believe the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast that is your belief ----but it is not my belief -----what your saying here is far fetched as far as I am concerned ----
 

lawrence101

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I say ---you can believe whatever you want to --and if you believe the vaccine is the Mark of the Beast that is your belief ----but it is not my belief -----what your saying here is far fetched as far as I am concerned ----
No i do not beleive that its the MOTB.... yet. But i'm beginning to see how this could be the "vehicle" by which it can be introduced to the general public in a very deceiving way. I too hope its not the mark 'cause most of my family members who i care about very much have already taken the jab and the booster shot.
 

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Twelve pages in, has anyone figured out if the vaccine is the mark of the beast?
I want to know.
 

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Twelve pages in, has anyone figured out if the vaccine is the mark of the beast?
I want to know.
The consensus on this is quite clear.

1. Everyone who gets the mark of the beast is warned in a very explicit and clear way that doing so is to worship the beast. Based on that no one can reasonably claim that this vaccine is the mark of the beast. It does not constitute worship of the Beast nor does it invalidate your salvation.

That said

2. The mark of the beast appears to include this mingling of iron and clay referred to by Daniel. Man is made of clay and this vaccine does appear to have some kind of metallic characteristic where it mingles with your DNA.

3. We are told repeatedly both in Genesis with the story of Noah and in Daniel that they want to mix their seed with the seed of man. Therefore we do expect to see some form of genetic engineering as part of the mark of the beast.

4. Already they have put out the scenario that without this vaccine you can't buy or sell and there are some very high profile examples of people getting counterfeit vaccine passports (Antonio Brown with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, etc) which will lead to some sort of RFID chip or tattoo.

5. Already they are making this mandatory or else you lose your job, you can't buy or sell, you are quarantined and even they are setting up quarantine camps.

6. Any careful analysis of the data will lead to the conclusion that the vaccine is not safe by our general standards, it is not effective by any standard, and it is completely unjustified to make this mandatory. The urgency and demand for this to be mandated is not based on science nor is it based on the health and well being of society.

7. Some studies are coming back indicating that people who get the vaccine have a temporary improved resistance to Covid of perhaps 2 months at most, but their overall immune response to viral infections decreases and this decrease increases with each additional shot. Already some are suggesting that it could be as much as a 50% reduction in your immune system after the booster shot.

8. Other studies are indicating a crazy spike in a broad range of illnesses among those who are vaccinated.

9. And then there are the sudden deaths of athletes and students who are recently vaccinated. At the moment this is anecdotal but the number of people who were in peak physical shape collapsing within two weeks of the vaccine is very disturbing.