Is There A 'Need' For supernatural abilities Today?
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The spot where I put in my password was filled with these. ******** I couldn't get in. They didn't say boo to me, they just did it. They took a lot of people down around that time using similar methods. I was mouthy...I showed no respect or fear of them. Still don't. Low-lifes!
I didn't save the picture of Biden. The other one is on Google Images. I don't want to post it here as it is vile. I think it's genuine as it reflects what small greys are described as. We are in a spiritual/physical war. Make no mistake about that! And make no mistake...He that is in us if FAR greater than he that is in the world!
The Lord is my light and salvation...of whom shall I be afraid?
I didn't save the picture of Biden. The other one is on Google Images. I don't want to post it here as it is vile. I think it's genuine as it reflects what small greys are described as. We are in a spiritual/physical war. Make no mistake about that! And make no mistake...He that is in us if FAR greater than he that is in the world!
The Lord is my light and salvation...of whom shall I be afraid?
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No, it's not even close. The A.I. laMDA caught my attention. Demons are basically people without bodies. Demons, if they can, use people as houses, or containers. Transhumanism may provide these. Who knows what genetic feats they are accomplishing in private labs? Demons are the spirits of dead Nephilim. Super-scientists. Then there's CERN. The enemy knows His time is short.
Yuval Harari wants to hack us, Elon Musk has his Neuro-Link and Star-Link global satellite system, and there's the Mark Zuckerberg Meta universe.
They basically want to turn us into Borg. They are well on their way to accomplishing this.
Q. What's the difference between conspiracy theory and fact?
A. About 6 months.
Yuval Harari wants to hack us, Elon Musk has his Neuro-Link and Star-Link global satellite system, and there's the Mark Zuckerberg Meta universe.
They basically want to turn us into Borg. They are well on their way to accomplishing this.
Q. What's the difference between conspiracy theory and fact?
A. About 6 months.
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I am always surprised to hear educated people say that these signs disappeared in church history. According to which historian?
There are some great church history books that document continuous threads of accounts of various groups of believers who reported speaking in tongues and other gifts of the Spirit among them from the first century to modern times.
It is not true that they completely stopped. They obviously were not part of the demonic apostate systems that ruled over men during the dark ages and beyond but there were still pockets of real Spirit Filled Christians that met in secret and among them these gifts were reported. I read a very scholarly book about it 30 years ago, and others have been written since.
So, one should investigate these books. If they discover them to be accurate and credible historical accounts, accepted by historians as true, then we have to be honest and stop saying that these signs stopped if the history says they didn't. If we keep saying so we are lying. God doesn't like lying.
Someone could say, that they don't think these pockets of believers were real Christians, or that they were deceived or something but they can't say that these records don't exist.
We have to be honest and say that there have always been some groups who claimed to speak in tongues from the first century until today. Then one can go about discrediting them if they wish but they can't deny the historical accounts.
And too often that is what I hear. People act like they have no knowledge of these accounts. I am wondering if they have read the many good Church history books that have been written.
It is true that these groups are often given the names of heretics but the accusations came from their persecutors who were trying to stamp them out by murder so chances are they were probably the real deal.
There are some great church history books that document continuous threads of accounts of various groups of believers who reported speaking in tongues and other gifts of the Spirit among them from the first century to modern times.
It is not true that they completely stopped. They obviously were not part of the demonic apostate systems that ruled over men during the dark ages and beyond but there were still pockets of real Spirit Filled Christians that met in secret and among them these gifts were reported. I read a very scholarly book about it 30 years ago, and others have been written since.
So, one should investigate these books. If they discover them to be accurate and credible historical accounts, accepted by historians as true, then we have to be honest and stop saying that these signs stopped if the history says they didn't. If we keep saying so we are lying. God doesn't like lying.
Someone could say, that they don't think these pockets of believers were real Christians, or that they were deceived or something but they can't say that these records don't exist.
We have to be honest and say that there have always been some groups who claimed to speak in tongues from the first century until today. Then one can go about discrediting them if they wish but they can't deny the historical accounts.
And too often that is what I hear. People act like they have no knowledge of these accounts. I am wondering if they have read the many good Church history books that have been written.
It is true that these groups are often given the names of heretics but the accusations came from their persecutors who were trying to stamp them out by murder so chances are they were probably the real deal.
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I never said that just because miraculous signs aren't necessary today let's take all references to miracles out. This is a weak argument based on deception. Something can be in the Bible but not necessarily be prescriptive for us today.
The Israelites rebuilt the Temple and the wall after they returned from captivity. We better get on that, it's in the Bible. Elijah went up to heaven in the whirlwind. You better have the same experience or you haven't been baptized in the Spirit. As I mentioned already: Jesus and Peter walked on water. We need to do this too or we're missing out. Jesus and others raised the dead. Anyone raised the dead lately? John was exiled to Patmos. It's in the Bible. When was the last time anyone went into exile on Patmos?
The argument that just because something is in the Bible means it's prescriptive for us is ludicrous.
The Israelites rebuilt the Temple and the wall after they returned from captivity. We better get on that, it's in the Bible. Elijah went up to heaven in the whirlwind. You better have the same experience or you haven't been baptized in the Spirit. As I mentioned already: Jesus and Peter walked on water. We need to do this too or we're missing out. Jesus and others raised the dead. Anyone raised the dead lately? John was exiled to Patmos. It's in the Bible. When was the last time anyone went into exile on Patmos?
The argument that just because something is in the Bible means it's prescriptive for us is ludicrous.
NO NO NO!! God has always will always honor his word. You may pray for something and may or may not give it to you; BUT that does not mean He has not honored His word. He may know that what you ask for is not good for you, He may have other plans for you. Just because He does not answer a prayer, or do something you want does not mean He does not honor His word. I hope I am misunderstanding you.
like i explained in your thread, i am using what happened to Paul when he tried to pray for Trophimus. God chose not to heal him even though Paul did everything as according to God's Word (Mark 16). God's Will was done whether Paul did as the Bible tells us to do. so yes, you are misunderstanding me because if anyone would have laid hands on Trophimus and prayed using the Name of Jesus to be healed it would have been Paul. but even in doing so, God chose not to heal Trophimus.
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But Paul was a miracle-worker and one would expect that Trophimus would have been instantly healed. Which means that Paul's miracles were for the propagation of the Gospel, not necessarily for healing sick Christians (including Timothy, his son in the faith). The "signs of an apostle" were given to convince unbelievers that the Gospel had the power of God behind it.
And you will also notice that the apostles rarely -- if ever -- mentioned their miracle-working powers. They certainly did not focus on them. The focus was always on Christ and Him crucified, risen, and ascended. On the Gospel itself.
And you will also notice that the apostles rarely -- if ever -- mentioned their miracle-working powers. They certainly did not focus on them. The focus was always on Christ and Him crucified, risen, and ascended. On the Gospel itself.
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