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Blain

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...For many who have come to see and rejoice in what Paul called “the
preaching of Jesus Christ According To The Revelation Of The Mystery,”
that Revelation is so vast and touches upon so many subjects that they
are often at a loss as to where to begin to share it with those who need
to know.

Paul’s Distinctive preaching of The Gospel Of Grace is an excellent
place to start, for it shows that The Revelation is not a side issue but
a fundamental one...

...When we come to the New Testament, many details surrounding the teaching
and preaching of Christ show Major Distinctions between what the Bible calls
the Gospel of the Kingdom and The Gospel Of The Grace of God. The following
points show these Distinctions.

1. The Distinctive terminology alone would strongly imply a difference between
these Two Gospels...

The Gospel of the Kingdom is simply God’s good news about His kingdom,
a kingdom that was (and is) to be established on earth with Christ as king
(Jer. 23:5-6; Isa. 2:2-4; 11:1-9). It was prophesied by Israel’s prophets in
the Old Testament and proclaimed “at hand” in the New Testament.

The Gospel of the Grace of God is God’s Good News About His Grace Reigning
like a king on the throne (Rom. 5:20-21). It was a new Revelation that came to
Paul, the apostle, directly from The Resurrected Christ In Heaven
(Gal. 1:11-12; 2:2; Acts 20:24).

Both of these gospels deal with salvation from sin, but each address a
different people, at different times, and under different circumstances...

...7. Preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom, Christ spoke of giving His life “a
ransom for many” and His blood “shed for many” (Matt. 20:28; 26:28). This
would refer to His people Israel, for the angel of The LORD had commanded
Joseph that “thou shalt call His Name JESUS: for He Shall Save His people
from their sins” (Matt. 1:21). Israel was Jesus’ people, for He Himself was
a Jew.

Preaching The Gospel Of The Grace of God, Paul spoke of Christ, “Who Gave
Himself A Ransom for all, to be testified in due time” (1 Tim. 2:6). This Gospel
included both Jews and Gentiles. The due time for its proclamation was after
Israel rejected the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom under John, Jesus,
and the twelve. Paul was converted and commissioned to preach The Gospel
Of Grace
to the whole world (Acts 26:16-20)...
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(K Lawson)

FULL study Of All 12 Distinctive Points: Is There More Than one Gospel?

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GRACE And Peace...
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i say as truth but if I were to tell you than unpon inviting to live nwith you to seek teh truth of trutsh that he would abide with you his presence is real his physical appearance only shows whe you live with him

no scripture or doctrone no understanding decide the matter if he lives with you or not.Jesus himslef not the scipture or our understanding is the truth the way and the life this is often times overlooked but you take him at his you seek the actual truth what it means to be a believer what it meant to be a Cjhristian what it truly means to be strong and the reason why you sought to be strong.
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3...

Point # 4:

The Gospel of the Kingdom required the ordinance of water baptism
along with faith in Christ for salvation and the forgiveness of sins
(Mark 1:4; 16:16; Acts 2:38).

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):
This seems this trying to wrongly divide the word of truth. There is subtlety here, if I say one teaches those passages a baptismal regeneration, one can easily deny for the reason he is no longer in the period of their day, so that one who says it is now excused. But seems you are saying at one time they were saved by faith + works which is definitely an error. Those passages of the Bible never teach Baptismal regeneration as you have supposed.
The word “for” in Mark 1:4 is not meant “to get” but rather “because of” and was well demonstrated in the same chapter when Jesus cleansed the leper begging for it. All you had to do was to read all of Mark 1:42 – 44 to find out that the man was already free from leprosy and ALREADY CLEANSED before the man was instructed to go to the priest to offer FOR thy cleansing. Hope this will clarify the matter and that will be the same as the passages you have mentioned but I would let others tackle them.

Mark 1:42 - 44 And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed. . . . And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
Luke 5:12 - 14 And it came to pass . . .behold a man full of leprosy: who seeing Jesus fell on his face, and besought him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. And he put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will: be thou clean. And immediately the leprosy departed from him. And he charged him . . . go, and shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing, according as Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4...

Now, Point # 5:

The Gospel of the Kingdom required the disciples to “endure unto the end”
to be saved (Matt. 10:22; 24:13).

The Gospel of the Grace of God requires only faith in Christ to be saved.
It promises The Seal of The Holy Spirit until the day of Christ’s appearing
and assures no condemnation or separation from His Love
(Eph. 1:13-14; 4:30; Rom. 8:1,31-39).

Amen.

to be continued...
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5...

Point # 6:

The Gospel of the Kingdom was preached to those who were still under
the Law of Moses and affirms the necessity of rituals and ordinances
(Matt. 8:4; 23:1-3).

Jesus Christ was “made under the law, to redeem them that were under
the law....” He was circumcised on the eighth day according to the law
and kept all the commands of Moses, including the Jewish holy days
(Gal. 4:4-5; Luke 2:21-24).

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

During the time of the dispensing of the Gospel of the Grace of God,
we are not under the law but under Grace (Rom. 6:14-15). That is true
in both salvation and in the Christian life (Col. 2:6).

Amen.
 

John146

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If I went around preaching this message, could that save anyone? No mention of the d,b,r for sins.

Revelation 14
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5, Point 6...

Point # 7:

Preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom, Christ spoke of giving His life
“a ransom for many” and His Blood “shed for many” (Matt. 20:28; 26:28).
This would refer to His people Israel, for the angel of the Lord had
commanded Joseph that “thou shalt call His Name JESUS: for He shall
save His people from their sins” (Matt. 1:21). Israel was Jesus’ people,
for He Himself was a Jew.

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Preaching the Gospel of the Grace of God, Paul spoke of Christ, “Who
gave Himself A Ransom for all, to be testified in due time” (1 Tim. 2:6).

This Gospel included both Jews and Gentiles. The due time for its
proclamation was after Israel rejected the preaching of the gospel
of the kingdom under John, Jesus, and the twelve. Paul was converted
and commissioned to preach the Gospel of Grace to the whole world
(Acts 26:16-20).

Amen.
 

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You can type whatever you want as long as God allows you to live and move your fingers, but I don't find your argument convincing. At least it is not appropriate to call this a different 'gospel.' Jews and Gentiles are justified the same way. The teachings of the kingdom fall under the broader understanding of what constitutes the 'gospel.'
Amen Paul wrote this

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-87 ‭KJV‬‬

Now the argument is Paul preached this other gospel not Christ the gospel Christ preached is t the real gospel that one is the phony gospel Paul says will curse you ect ect

Its such a hollow and transparent empty thought to make one’s doctrine they first need to remove the words of thier lord and savior which he said these words I’ll be preached to every creature and whoever believes will be saved ….

but apparently this apostle ( messaged and witness of ) and servant of Jesus Christ and the gospel

Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: by whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:1, 3-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

All Nations means gentiles my people other than Jews are gentiles there’s no difference to God in a Jew and gentile there’s only a difference in believers and non believers of the gospel the actual true gospel I mean the one Jesus sent forth for salvstion to all people

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when we reject that gospel we then need to create a new one
 

Pilgrimshope

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I fully agree with this statement ------Satan will do everything he can to stop the true Gospel from being preached -----Satan wants the believer's Faith to fail so he can sift us like wheat -----we need to get our Faith grounded and rooted in the Word who is Jesus so it stays secure when Satan tries to steal our Faith from us ---

Luke 22 ESV
Jesus Foretells Peter's Denial
31 “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you,[a] that he might sift you like wheat, 32 but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.”
“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:3-6‬
 

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The Gospel of the King, that is Jesus, and the Gospel of his Kingdom, are the same. You are part of the Kingdom as Jesus is your King. Which is the Gospel of Grace.
As for ethnic jews, they are saved the same way anyone else is by Grace through Faith in the one Lord and King Jesus, and there most certainly are, just as it were in the day of the disciples many who are indeed saved. Ethnic Jews are not excluded from the Gospel read Romans 9,10, and 11. The letter to the Hebrews is now a book in the Bible, it was written to the Hebrew church which was comprised of saved ethnic Jews. They have the same gospel as everyone else on earth.
that’s an amen for sure

It’s about who will accept Jesus and the true gospel Jew or gentile .
 

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This is replacement theology. The church has replaced God's physical people Israel. The covenant that God made with Israel is now to the body of Christ. I'm not buying that. God's physical people Israel is going to get their kingdom restored with their promised Messiah sitting on the throne of David ruling over the earth. It's going to happen.
I'm curious, do you believe Jesus was offering Israel the kingdom when He came?
 

John146

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I'm curious, do you believe Jesus was offering Israel the kingdom when He came?
Absolutely! The kingdom and King was at hand. If they would have received him, he could have set up the kingdom at some point after the resurrection. The mystery was the cross. The cross had to happen first before restoring the kingdom of Israel. Even his disciples were questioning it after the cross.

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Jesus didn't rebuke them for asking, but simply told them it's not for them to know when it will come.
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5, Point 6, Point # 7...

Point # 8:

Under the Gospel of the Kingdom, the crucifixion of Christ was not
good news, but bad news. It was something to be repented of and
confessed by those Jews who demanded His death.

In the early chapters of the Book of Acts, Peter pointed the finger
of accusation at apostate Israel to bring them under guilt so they
could repent, be baptized, and receive the forgiveness of sins
(Acts 2:14-40; 3:12-26; 4:8-12; 5:29-32).

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Under the Gospel of the Grace of God, Paul does not accuse us of the
crucifixion (although there is a sense in which our sins put him there),
rather, he presents the preaching of The Cross As Good News for all
people.

Far from something to be ashamed of, Paul gloried in The Cross.
In it was revealed the secret that became the key to all of God’s
good news to man (Gal. 6:14; Rom. 3:21-28; 5:6-11).

Amen.
 

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Absolutely! The kingdom and King was at hand. If they would have received him, he could have set up the kingdom at some point after the resurrection. The mystery was the cross. The cross had to happen first before restoring the kingdom of Israel. Even his disciples were questioning it after the cross.

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Jesus didn't rebuke them for asking, but simply told them it's not for them to know when it will come.
I believe Jesus was offering the kingdom as well. Yes, He went around preaching the kingdom was at hand, but He also taught a lot about what the kingdom is like. When you read Jesus describing the kingdom, does it look like the future kingdom you envision or the church?
 

John146

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I believe Jesus was offering the kingdom as well. Yes, He went around preaching the kingdom was at hand, but He also taught a lot about what the kingdom is like. When you read Jesus describing the kingdom, does it look like the future kingdom you envision or the church?
The kingdom of heaven? Israel's restoration of their kingdom, "Thy kingdom come..."
The kingdom of God? The church, the body of Christ

Both were at hand during his earthly ministry. Both will be realized at his second coming.
 

turbosixx

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The kingdom of heaven? Israel's restoration of their kingdom, "Thy kingdom come..."
The kingdom of God? The church, the body of Christ

Both were at hand during his earthly ministry. Both will be realized at his second coming.
I'm not sure what your reply means.
You agree that Jesus offered Israel the kingdom. Jesus described, to Israel, the kingdom He was offering them many times. What does it look like to you? For example,
18 “Hear then the parable of the sower: 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path. 20 As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy, 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away. 22 As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful. 23 As for what was sown on good soil, this is the one who hears the word and understands it. He indeed bears fruit and yields, in one case a hundredfold, in another sixty, and in another thirty.”
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously:
Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5, Point 6, Point # 7, Point # 8...

Point 9:

According to the Gospel of the Kingdom, Christ was raised
from the dead to sit upon David’s throne in the kingdom.
This is in accordance with prophecy
(Luke 1:30-33; Acts 2:29-31; 2 Sam. 7:12-16).

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

According to the Gospel of the Grace of God, Christ was Raised again
for—that is, because of—our justification (Rom. 4:25). In other words,
The Resurrection of Christ is our “canceled check,” proving that our sins
have been Paid For, and that now we are in a Right Relationship with God.

Amen.
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously: Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5, Point 6, Point # 7...

Point # 8:

Under the Gospel of the Kingdom, the crucifixion of Christ was not
good news, but bad news. It was something to be repented of and
confessed by those Jews who demanded His death.

In the early chapters of the Book of Acts, Peter pointed the finger
of accusation at apostate Israel to bring them under guilt so they
could repent, be baptized, and receive the forgiveness of sins
(Acts 2:14-40; 3:12-26; 4:8-12; 5:29-32).

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Under the Gospel of the Grace of God, Paul does not accuse us of the
crucifixion (although there is a sense in which our sins put him there),
rather, he presents the preaching of The Cross As Good News for all
people.

Far from something to be ashamed of, Paul gloried in The Cross.
In it was revealed the secret that became the key to all of God’s
good news to man (Gal. 6:14; Rom. 3:21-28; 5:6-11).

Amen.
Hi Grace_ambassador,

What is your definition of the Gospel of the Kingdom?
 

achduke7

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously:
Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5, Point 6, Point # 7, Point # 8...

Point 9:

According to the Gospel of the Kingdom, Christ was raised
from the dead to sit upon David’s throne in the kingdom.
This is in accordance with prophecy
(Luke 1:30-33; Acts 2:29-31; 2 Sam. 7:12-16).

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

According to the Gospel of the Grace of God, Christ was Raised again
for—that is, because of—our justification (Rom. 4:25). In other words,
The Resurrection of Christ is our “canceled check,” proving that our sins
have been Paid For, and that now we are in a Right Relationship with God.

Amen.
I see your points above now.

Point 1 Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Point 2 Paul also preached the Kingdom of God.
Acts 28:31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously:
Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5,
Point 6, Point # 7, Point # 8, Point 9...

Point 10:

In the Gospel of the Kingdom, redeemed Israel was to be
God’s channel of salvation to the world. She was promised
authority and superiority over the nations, and the salvation
of those nations was to come through her rise
(Gen. 22:17-18; Isa. 60:1-3,10-12; Zech. 8:13,22; John 4:22; Acts 3:25-26).

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Because of her rejection of Christ, Israel is now spiritually blinded and
the fulfillment of the promises awaits a future day, after the completion
of His program for the Gentiles in the present dispensation,
the Dispensation of Grace (Rom. 11:25-27; Eph. 3:1-3).

In the Gospel of the Grace of God, redeemed people from the Church
which is His Body become the channel of salvation to the world.
Gentile salvation now comes through Israel’s fall. There is now no
difference between the Jew and the Gentile.

They are all equally lost and in need of a Savior. All those who are
saved have an equal position in Christ and equal access to Him as
sons of God (Rom. 3:9,22-23; 10:12; 11:11-12,32; Gal. 3:28; Col. 3:11).

Amen.
 

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op: More than one gospel?: [ credit goes to K. Lawson ]:

Previously:
Point 1, Point 2, Point 3, Point # 4, Point 5,
Point 6, Point # 7, Point # 8, Point 9, Point 10...

Point 11:

The Gospel of the Kingdom is also called “the gospel of the circumcision.
Like the term kingdom of God, it is possessive in meaning, and denoted
the gospel belonging to the circumcision or the Jewish people.

It is the gospel that takes us back to Abraham and the institution of
circumcision as the token (or sign) of the covenant God made with
Abraham and his descendants. Peter was called an apostle of the
circumcision and made an agreement with Paul to confine his
ministry to the circumcision—the Jews (Gal. 2:7-9; Gen. 17:9-14).

The Gospel of the Grace of God is also called “the gospel of the
uncircumcision.” It means the gospel belonging to the uncircumcision
or Gentiles. This gospel takes us back to Abram when he was an
uncircumcised Gentile who was declared righteous before God
prior to being circumcised.

That means that his justification was by faith alone, without
works. It is a good picture of how we are saved today under
the Grace of God without the ceremonies and works of the law
(Gal. 2:7-9; Rom. 4:9-11; Gen. 15:4-6).

Amen.