Isaiah 54:1-55:5 and 1 Peter 3:18-22

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BenAvraham

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ISAIAH 54:1-55:5

The Children of Yisrael are compared to the “sands of the sea” the “dust of the earth” and the “Stars of heaven” The prophet Yeshayahu in these verses is comforting Israel that they will be blessed, with descendants, even though at the time they might be going through some rough times, always, when people go away from the LORD and follow other gods, then judgment will follow, and suffering will follow, however, YHVH will never reject his people…and…He will increase their numbers.

Despite HaSatan trying to wipe the Jewish people from existence through the Holocaust, pogroms, etc. The people will continue to exist. Why is Israel compared to the “sands of the sea?” because who can count every grain of sand? Why is Israel compared to the “dust of the earth?” One walks on the dust and Israel has been trampled on, like dust, but dust is enduring. Leave a car outside in the desert, in the dust, for perhaps one hundred years. In the end, the car will no longer exist, it will have been wasted away, yet the dust will continue to exist, forever.

Why “the stars of heaven?” because Israel will “shine” like the stars, because, the Mashiach came from Israel, and He shines, as everlasting light. Israel will be a light to the nations and will teach the nations of ONE GOD “Echad”

MATTHEW 3:1-4:25; 1 PETER 3:18-22

Yochanan the Baptizer is in Jordan, baptizing the people, getting them ready to meet their Messiah, his cousin, his LORD. We need to get our hearts and minds right. A need to change is necessary to leave the lost world behind and embrace the things of the LORD.

Yeshua is baptized, goes into the wilderness, fasts for 40 days, getting ready for his ministry and teaching, healing, and finally, dying for our sins. 40 is the number for testing and judgment. “Man shall not live by bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of Adonai”. Yes, physical food is necessary, and it feeds the physical body, yet the WORD of God feeds our spirit man/woman. There needs to be a balance between the two. Adonai gave us good, healthy, kosher food, and HIS WORD, which is the living manna.

Yeshua visited Capernaum. I have been there, and the synagogue that Yeshua visited is still there. Although it was torn down and rebuilt a few times, the floor is the same. It was an honor to physically “walk” where Yeshua walked and taught Torah. The remains of Peter’s house are also there. Let’s walk the way Yeshua walked, let’s keep on preparing our hearts, minds, and our lives. The Kingdom of Heaven IS here, it IS at hand. The “Kingdom of God” is HIS activity here on earth.

1 PETER 3:18-22; Peter writes about Messiah, giving up his life for us all, to bring us to Elohim. But since Messiah Yeshua is part of Elohim, did “Elohim die for Elohim?” In a way, we can say yes. He left His glory on high to come to earth and live as a man, to die as a man, to suffer as a man, a man who is still G-d. Yeshua called upon his “Father” who is Elohim, and Yeshua is known as “The Son” “Yeshua Ben Elohim” who was also known as “Yeshua Ben Yosef” as he was raised and known legally as “The Son of Yosef” yet He was and IS, still very God.

Kefa the Talmid continues to state that Yeshua descended into the heart of the earth, and he preached to the “spirits” in Sheol. But who are these “spirits?” We could include all who perished during the time of the flood, who were disobedient, and thus perished, their bodies being consumed by the floodwaters and probably by sharks. I imagine there were many Megalodons (giant sharks) in the waters of the flood just awaiting “MANwiches!”

It was too late for these souls to be saved, yet Yeshua also preached to the spirits in “Paradise” the region of Sheol where the righteous awaited Mashiach, from righteous Abel to the thief on the cross (and all in between) He came to set “captives free” even though paradise was a pleasant waiting place (I imagine) it could not compare to the New Jerusalem, where they all are now.

“8 were saved through water” Those were Noah, his wife (Na ’amah, daughter of Enoch) his three sons and their wives. They all had a “new beginning” (8) and we also are saved through the “Living Water” who is Yeshua.

When we are saved, we go through water baptism, which identifies us with Yeshua, “death and rebirth” yet as Kefa says, it does not get rid of the filth of the flesh, but of a newness of spirit. Our flesh will always be sinful, and will, at times, be attracted to sin. That is why “flesh” can not inherit heaven. Our bodies of flesh will wear out and cease to function after “x” number of years, yet we will receive new bodies, and our souls and spirit will be with the LORD!

Our flesh is and always will be sinful flesh, yet we will have a “good conscience toward Elohim” Let us be content with a good conscience, and try to bring the flesh under control.

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homwardbound

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ISAIAH 54:1-55:5

The Children of Yisrael are compared to the “sands of the sea” the “dust of the earth” and the “Stars of heaven” The prophet Yeshayahu in these verses is comforting Israel that they will be blessed, with descendants, even though at the time they might be going through some rough times, always, when people go away from the LORD and follow other gods, then judgment will follow, and suffering will follow, however, YHVH will never reject his people…and…He will increase their numbers.

Despite HaSatan trying to wipe the Jewish people from existence through the Holocaust, pogroms, etc. The people will continue to exist. Why is Israel compared to the “sands of the sea?” because who can count every grain of sand? Why is Israel compared to the “dust of the earth?” One walks on the dust and Israel has been trampled on, like dust, but dust is enduring. Leave a car outside in the desert, in the dust, for perhaps one hundred years. In the end, the car will no longer exist, it will have been wasted away, yet the dust will continue to exist, forever.

Why “the stars of heaven?” because Israel will “shine” like the stars, because, the Mashiach came from Israel, and He shines, as everlasting light. Israel will be a light to the nations and will teach the nations of ONE GOD “Echad”

MATTHEW 3:1-4:25; 1 PETER 3:18-22

Yochanan the Baptizer is in Jordan, baptizing the people, getting them ready to meet their Messiah, his cousin, his LORD. We need to get our hearts and minds right. A need to change is necessary to leave the lost world behind and embrace the things of the LORD.

Yeshua is baptized, goes into the wilderness, fasts for 40 days, getting ready for his ministry and teaching, healing, and finally, dying for our sins. 40 is the number for testing and judgment. “Man shall not live by bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of Adonai”. Yes, physical food is necessary, and it feeds the physical body, yet the WORD of God feeds our spirit man/woman. There needs to be a balance between the two. Adonai gave us good, healthy, kosher food, and HIS WORD, which is the living manna.

Yeshua visited Capernaum. I have been there, and the synagogue that Yeshua visited is still there. Although it was torn down and rebuilt a few times, the floor is the same. It was an honor to physically “walk” where Yeshua walked and taught Torah. The remains of Peter’s house are also there. Let’s walk the way Yeshua walked, let’s keep on preparing our hearts, minds, and our lives. The Kingdom of Heaven IS here, it IS at hand. The “Kingdom of God” is HIS activity here on earth.

1 PETER 3:18-22; Peter writes about Messiah, giving up his life for us all, to bring us to Elohim. But since Messiah Yeshua is part of Elohim, did “Elohim die for Elohim?” In a way, we can say yes. He left His glory on high to come to earth and live as a man, to die as a man, to suffer as a man, a man who is still G-d. Yeshua called upon his “Father” who is Elohim, and Yeshua is known as “The Son” “Yeshua Ben Elohim” who was also known as “Yeshua Ben Yosef” as he was raised and known legally as “The Son of Yosef” yet He was and IS, still very God.

Kefa the Talmid continues to state that Yeshua descended into the heart of the earth, and he preached to the “spirits” in Sheol. But who are these “spirits?” We could include all who perished during the time of the flood, who were disobedient, and thus perished, their bodies being consumed by the floodwaters and probably by sharks. I imagine there were many Megalodons (giant sharks) in the waters of the flood just awaiting “MANwiches!”

It was too late for these souls to be saved, yet Yeshua also preached to the spirits in “Paradise” the region of Sheol where the righteous awaited Mashiach, from righteous Abel to the thief on the cross (and all in between) He came to set “captives free” even though paradise was a pleasant waiting place (I imagine) it could not compare to the New Jerusalem, where they all are now.

“8 were saved through water” Those were Noah, his wife (Na ’amah, daughter of Enoch) his three sons and their wives. They all had a “new beginning” (8) and we also are saved through the “Living Water” who is Yeshua.

When we are saved, we go through water baptism, which identifies us with Yeshua, “death and rebirth” yet as Kefa says, it does not get rid of the filth of the flesh, but of a newness of spirit. Our flesh will always be sinful, and will, at times, be attracted to sin. That is why “flesh” can not inherit heaven. Our bodies of flesh will wear out and cease to function after “x” number of years, yet we will receive new bodies, and our souls and spirit will be with the LORD!

Our flesh is and always will be sinful flesh, yet we will have a “good conscience toward Elohim” Let us be content with a good conscience, and try to bring the flesh under control.

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BenAvraham

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Hello Homeward bound, yes, we are all homeward bound, but in God's timing. Yes, the flesh is not good, and we are stuck with it, and it affects us, too much at times.
 

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I recently read this quote by Mark Twain:

"If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk.

His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and abstruse learning are also very out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians and the Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greeks and Romans followed and made a vast noise, and they were gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, and have vanished.

The Jew saw them all, survived them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities, of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert but aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jews; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality? "
 

BenAvraham

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The Abrahamic promise, "I will bless those who bless thee, and curse those (utterly destroy) who curse thee"
 
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The Abrahamic promise, "I will bless those who bless thee, and curse those (utterly destroy) who curse thee"
Said to Abraham, but if it also applies to his seed then that includes Christians.

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:26-29
 

Seeker47

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The Abrahamic promise, "I will bless those who bless thee, and curse those (utterly destroy) who curse thee"
I can hardly imagine what the world would be if that passage was understood...
 

montana123

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Some people think the Church replaces Israel, but Israel is the Church.

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

When a Gentile is saved they belong to Israel, and a Jew inwardly.

Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Jer 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Jer 33:26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

God did not cast His people away and they shall never cease to be a nation, and the new covenant is with them.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

The disciples knew the kingdom would be restored to Israel.

The Hebrews that rejected Jesus did not understand that the Messiah had to come as a sinless man, and shed innocent blood to wash their sins away completely, and to open the door of heaven where they would be right with God to be with Him.

Then the kingdom on earth would be restored to them.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Jer 46:27 But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.
Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

Israel as a nation is blinded in part for they acknowledge the Old Covenant but not the New until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles and so all Israel shall be saved the kingdom on earth restored to them.

God gave Israel a blessing and a cursing which if they abided in the truth no enemy could overpower them, and could not rule over them, and if they did not abide in the truth they would be scattered and other nations would rule over them.

The Pharisees, religious leaders might of thought they were in the truth but the Roman Empire was ruling over them testifying they were not in the truth.

The kingdom on earth cannot be restored to them until Israel as a nation is in the truth.

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montana123

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Continued from above post

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

God gave Israel time to repent and acknowledge Jesus as their Messiah which they did not so He allowed them to be scattered in to the nations as the cursing that would befall them.

70 weeks, 490 years, is determined upon Israel to make an end of sins, bring in everlasting righteousness, and anoint the most holy who is Jesus.

69 weeks has passed with 1 week, 7 years to go, which the 70th week is postponed as they were scattered in to the nations and salvation was preached in the world where they have a chance for salvation.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

God will bring the whole house of Israel, all 12 tribes back to their land, and leave none of them in the nations anymore after they have borne their shame for rejecting the truth.

Then they shall know the LORD their God from that time forward and He will never hide His face from them again which they be in the truth from that time forward, and never stray again.

This is a event future for if it was in the past Israel as a nation would be in the truth.

God is giving the world 7 years to have their way and cause all people that do not love the truth to follow the New Age Christ and when they do and take his mark then He will end sin on earth.

The New Age Christ will negotiate peace in the Middle East resulting in a peace treaty, and the nations governments will work for peace on earth, and it will pave the way for all Hebrews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will make it happen, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, but God means it for good towards the Hebrews.

The New Age Christ will push the agenda of the new age christianity which he will think to change times and laws.

Salvation is available to the world for the first three and one half years.

At the end of that time the New Age Christ will claim to be God, and the Messiah, and when the world takes his mark salvation is no longer available to the world and the fulness of the Gentiles have come in.

God will send Israel 2 witnesses to turn Israel as a nation to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah for the last three and one half years and at the end of that time Israel as a nation will be in the truth.
 

homwardbound

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Hello Homeward bound, yes, we are all homeward bound, but in God's timing. Yes, the flesh is not good, and we are stuck with it, and it affects us, too much at times.
Still learning daily to be dead to flesh as in Romans 6:12. loving the read from verse 1
Die daily to see the new life given daily in trust Faith to God Father of in risen Son Jesus.
Practice, any practice of anything good or bad, makes habit
Habits, make character, Character makes trait
When one, anyone gets saved by God in belief to God (Eph 1:13) Then one begins the new life offered them in the risen Son Jesus for them. (Bad habits in each, that might be traits or characteristics, even just a bad habit trying to see through the veil too.
To see by God through Son as risen we are Accepted and forgiven by God (Eph 1:6-7), to be dead to self willingly their first birth nature as a flesh person. Unfortunately many act to others as if they got it together when they do not.
Do as you are told, they tell you the truth, yet they do not do the truth themselves. These would not have known they were and are in sin too, unless I (Jesus) came and revealed this to them. Otherwise these religious leaders would not be Quilty, even though they seem to hide well. All know what they do or not do, because all are first born with the truth have gotten the knowledge of good and evil, at first birth. to choose to beleive in God Father and Son as won for them to be new or choose self over everything else
Many hide as are believers too, when their motives are still selfish, and is why Jesus says to some, go away you who work iniquity and do not glory over iniquity