Israel Declares War

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cv5

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Lord Jesus I have failed with cv5, I realize my time is up, so I hand this over to You. Amen.
I am saying that the seals of Rev 6 are ALL yet future. Among other things. And all seals only occur after the pre-rapture.
 

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8 And it shall come to pass in all the land,”
Says the Lord,
That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
But one-third shall be left in it:

But woe to those who aren’t benevolent to Jesus’s blood people.
Amen. We are to especially LOVE these His brethren with a tender heart.
The type is of course Joseph and the sons of Jacob.
 

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We arent. Our CIA using cocain money from selling crack in the inner cities, to fund the over turning of duely elected central American governments so that Dole can profit from basically slaver labour fruit farms. Which caised the cartel crisis in mexico to be able to take control and cause the humanitarian crisis we have on our border today isnt terrorism?
Tampering with Ukrainian election so we can have a puppet that would violate peace agreements provoking Russia to to invade, just so we cam destroy a pipe line to prevent Russia from selling more oil to Europe ismt terrorism.
What about the Tuskegee Airman incident where our govco used the black community as a test to see how far syphilis will spread.
And all the Ruby Ridge type incidents.
The nations spiraling downward into ever greater sin is to be expected. Some will be saved regardless of the circumstances.
 

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We arent. Our CIA using cocain money from selling crack in the inner cities, to fund the over turning of duely elected central American governments so that Dole can profit from basically slaver labour fruit farms. Which caised the cartel crisis in mexico to be able to take control and cause the humanitarian crisis we have on our border today isnt terrorism?
Tampering with Ukrainian election so we can have a puppet that would violate peace agreements provoking Russia to to invade, just so we cam destroy a pipe line to prevent Russia from selling more oil to Europe ismt terrorism.
What about the Tuskegee Airman incident where our govco used the black community as a test to see how far syphilis will spread.
And all the Ruby Ridge type incidents.

Ok the only one I know to be true from what I have read up on is Tuskegee and that was Dems and their racism again. Again, I wasn't born here so there may be things you know that I don't. I don't know America to commit terrorist acts around the world akin to Hamas. Backdoor dealings, I couldn't say.
 

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I would rather all our brothers and sisters be united in favor of righteousness and against evil. Israel, just as any other nation, is capable and is doing evil things that they would not want done to them.

Don't get me wrong... Hamas is a terrorist group. I suspect many will to light me up with red x's for typing this...
Israel is just as much in need of a Savior as the Hamas terrorists and as much as you and me. We are all sinners. We are all unified that Hamas is evil.
No red xs...

We are not all unified that Israel is perfect and/or acting morally in their indiscriminate retaliatory bombing of Gaza.
Would red x here if I used them. Israel has a right to defend themselves.
 
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Ok the only one I know to be true from what I have read up on is Tuskegee and that was Dems and their racism again. Again, I wasn't born here so there may be things you know that I don't. I don't know America to commit terrorist acts around the world akin to Hamas. Backdoor dealings, I couldn't say.
Look up the Bannana war or the.
Also look up Ruby Ridge.

America is just covert about it. Hamas is very open about it.
 
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Also look up contra cocain conspiracy.

Its been a long while since i read up on these things so I camt go into details because i will not get all the facts straight.
 
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I had the banana war and the cocain contra conspiracy conflated into one incident. Its actually separate incidents years apart. Sorry its been many years and America has created many messes around the world. It is hard to keep up with them all.
 
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I personally believe that only men operating by the Holy Spirit in Christ Jesus can do anything actually good. That even the most civic minded man who seeks to do good, will only cause a mess because men do not know what good is.
 

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When I first read your post I thought there was no way the Talmud says this. Thanks to Google, I found out right away you are correct. I am absolutely shocked what is in the Talmud...



I read some of these to my Christian colleague and asked him "Who/what states this, Talmud/Judaism or Koran/Islam?". Needless to say, he got the first 4 questions wrong until he got the point and realized I pulled up a bunch of quotes from the Talmud.

I'm curious what percentage of Jews follow the Talmud. This is not really any different than the claims about the Koran, is it? :unsure::unsure::unsure:
Worst thing is thats just a small sample of many
 
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Disagree. God CREATED all things and is SOVERIGN over all things, yes.

But God DEFINITELY imbues His creation with free will. He allows choice and if the choice is to sin against Him, this He forebears.
Until the time of judgement.
I think this is semantics. I'm guessing we mean the same thing, but you say it differently. By God being in control, I mean nothing can happen without God's permitting it to happen - even sin. If you call this sovereign, fine. But I know of many sovereigns who were unable to hold onto their own power, let alone everything that happened in their territory. Understandable, as there is no Earthly equivalent of God.
 

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They are doing what the Lord has commanded... Jews going back to the Land and possessing it.

Let's not forget that Jesus Christ... is a Zionist, and those that oppose Him in this will find themselves on the wrong side of eternity where it's eternally hot and tormenting.

Some folks don't seem to understand that... Jesus is a Jew!

Right now is a time of war for Israel and they shall ,prevail! View attachment 257136 View attachment 257137

Jesus was a Jew but not a Zionist - how did you come to that conclusion?

There was a New covenant not that of Moses so it has been taken away from the Israelites.

Hasten God already taken their Kingdom!

Matt 21:43 - Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

(1484 éthnos (from ethō, "forming a custom, culture") – properly, people joined by practicing similar customs or common culture; nation(s), usually referring to unbelieving Gentiles (non-Jews).

John 4:21 - Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Isiah 35:10 – ….they will enter Zion ……
 
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Jesus was a Jew but not a Zionist - how did you come to that conclusion?

There was a New covenant not that of Moses so it has been taken away from the Israelites.

Hasten God already taken their Kingdom!

Matt 21:43 - Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

(1484 éthnos (from ethō, "forming a custom, culture") – properly, people joined by practicing similar customs or common culture; nation(s), usually referring to unbelieving Gentiles (non-Jews).

John 4:21 - Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Isiah 35:10 – ….they will enter Zion ……
It depends on your definition of Jew. Remember that Jesus said to some who believed themselves Jews that their father was the devil.

John 8:42 - 44
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Remember also that Christians are true Jews.

Romans 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

So it depends what sense you are talking when claiming Jesus was a Jew. If the former, Jesus was certainly no Pharisee (as is common in the state of Israel today). If the latter, all Christians are likewise true Jews, by the blood of Jesus.
 

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I am saying that the seals of Rev 6 are ALL yet future. Among other things. And all seals only occur after the pre-rapture.
That is what most people say. I am saying that the scroll which the Lamb opens after having just been slain is the same scroll that Paul is referring to in Ephesians when he says the mystery hidden from the ages has now been revealed. I am saying that when Jesus said "all power (authority) has been given unto me" in Matthew He is referring to this scroll being given to Him. I am saying that the reason we know the number of his name for the Antichrist is because this scroll has been opened. I am saying that there are two interpretations of the first seal, either the gospel or the false gospel, either way that horse began running throughout the earth 2,000 years ago, Galatians talks about 'another gospel which is not another, but a perversion of the gospel'. I'm saying that the spiritual war has been manifested on earth for 2,000 years, famine, plague, and thousands maybe even millions of martyrs.
 

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I pray this happens sooner rather than later
So Help Me God

:)-
Just to let you know:
The Davidic covenant GUARANTEES a perpetual eternal house of David. And consequently the nation Israel.

It is impossible to wipe out the people and nation Israel, despite your ambitious pretentions.
 

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⚡WELL... HERE WE GO...

"There is a fundamental malady in society which is why the collapse is inevitable"
 

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Just to let you know:
The Davidic covenant GUARANTEES a perpetual eternal house of David. And consequently the nation Israel.

It is impossible to wipe out the people and nation Israel, despite your ambitious pretentions.
Is that what he meant? Doesn't he know that all the nations united against Israel lose Armageddon?