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Okay so maybe it doesn't all make sense but just hear me out. Let's just say there is some truth to a lot of theories or beliefs that are out there. After all a good lie is mostly true. Supposedly Adam and Eve were created 7000 or so years ago. I don't have a problem with that. What if the Quran has some truth in it? It claims that the evil spirits are Djinn. The angels were created out of light, the Djinn out of smokeless fire or electricity and man out of earth. The Djinn can shapeshift, appear and disappear and become physical or posses man because brainwaves and neurons act on electrical pulses. There are some people who associate the ufos, demons, spirits and aliens and phenomenon to these "hidden ones". Now here's some observations and conspiracies. The ufos act more like entities than machines.

Continuing on some civilizations claim there is a planet making a 3600 year orbit and we are due. Some theorize that there was a collision 7000 years ago and it took a chunk out of the earth, and wiped out the planet but prior to that there was habitation. Then Genesis was the account of the recreation. Im not endorsing any of this just informing.

Sorry if this is scattered but I'm trying to condense as much as possible. Now these Djinn share the earth with us but live in a different dimension. There has been much advancement in quantum physics and it is believed our leaders know and are working with these beings. Some want to think they are from other planets but others believe they are interdimensional. Apparently these beings can be in our world temporarily but because of the electro magnetic interference they cant stay. This is where planet X comes into the picture. There seems to be something in our solar system for decades playing with the orbits of the other planets. Vatican is staring into space at something with an infared lens. Now some scientists are saying that there is disturbances with our electromagnetic field, possibly because of Planet X. Now before the flood it was reported that the Sons of God fornicated with the daughters of men and produced giants. There are other cultures and civilizations that claim their royalty is divine. Suppose every time Planet X swings by, the electromagnetic frequency of earth changes allowing Djinn, shapeshifting entities, to copulate with humans and animals contaminating bloodlines in hopes to dominate this realm. Surprisingly around 3600 years ago was the famine of the Joseph story. It says the famine was world wide, a possible result of Planet X. That was the same time the Greek myths of giants, gods and half human animals started and the largest volcanic eruption in history.

Now is it possible that the bankers thought that they could destoy the value of the dollar and not get caught because they figured a large planet was going to come and devistate the earth anyway? Are all of the Ufos and strange beings caught on tape, abductions (which immediately stop in the name of Jesus), and other phenomenon linked to these Djinn? I don't know either but somehow..... it all makes sense.
 
The sun is hot, large, bright and blue. That statement is 75% true. I'm not saying that I believe everything stated in the OP. What I'm getting at is that there is a big picture beyond our sight. We only get a glimpse here and a flash there. Now I figure all of the civilizations and tribes throughout history had beliefs based on facts and observations, not all fantasy and delusion. To me it's like there are ten or so jigsaw puzzles that my kids were playing with and the pieces are all mixed up in different boxes. Now I have to go through them all, gathering the pieces to finish the one I'm working on.
 
How can something be TRUTH if it is part lie?

Are you serious!!!

Read the full sentence!

Do not skim the paragraph and draw a conclusion, he said that the Quaran has SOME truth in it...

Here are some truth the Quaran states, there is a earth, there are people, there was a guy named Muhammad, there is a sovereign God.

Now there are lies in it also.... (which I do not need to state since you have grasped that concept).


So part truth is having "SOME TRUTH in it"



Although to reference the quaran saying demons are made out of smokeless fire or electricity and man out of earth. Can not be held credible as truth from what the bible depicts of Satan...
 
I'm not exactly sold on the "smokeless fire" but how would you describe Satan? The word angel in the Bible only means messenger. There are all sorts of descriptions. "lightning from heaven", "perfect in beauty", "angel of light", "serpent", "dragon" The Djinn are known for turning into snakes. Once you start to investigate the relationships between frequencies, electricity and photons, light, sound, energy and vibration, it is all very fascinating. There is so much we just are not atuned to physically but science is opening doors that I believe God intended to stay shut.
 
I like this whole post based on your first sentence "Okay so maybe it doesn't all make sense but just hear me out" and i didn't even read past that part.
 
Interesting theories but I don't put stock in them. If there is any truth to the djinn, it's that they're corruptions and exaggerations of fallen angels and demonic forces recorded in the Bible or experienced by people during such times. No need to look into it any further.
 
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None of this is capable of being corroborated by observable, falsifiable evidence of any kind. NWO bankers? Djinn? UFOs? Interdimensional X-planets?

:confused::confused::confused:
 
None of this is capable of being corroborated by observable, falsifiable evidence of any kind. NWO bankers? Djinn? UFOs? Interdimensional X-planets?

:confused::confused::confused:

You forgot evolution and uniformitarinism. They're beliefs that can't be corroborated by observable and falsifiable evidence of any kind. They're philosophical beliefs to explain origins. Simple as that.
 
I can completely relate with that they are pretty far out there. The problem is that once you start looking hard into some of the different theories, there are some things that just can't be refuted. Its those little details when held up to something else starts to form a picture. The picture might look odd but it's a picture. People didn't realize just how complex the body was at one time. Then they see how when vit c is omitted then people got scurvy, or vit d, they got rickets, then they discovered germs, bacteria you get the picture. We don't see it right now but there is proof that something is there and just out of reach. Maybe there's something to it or maybe I need a hobby. I never really cared for golf.
 
You forgot evolution and uniformitarinism. They're beliefs that can't be corroborated by observable and falsifiable evidence of any kind. They're philosophical beliefs to explain origins. Simple as that.

That's an explicitly and disappointingly misinformed position. Evolution is a thoroughly falsifiable, testable, and observable phenomenon, and is the fundamental framework upon which a great deal of contemporary biology is based. It's readily observable through the prevalent fossil record and through various observed speciations, readily testable through artificial selection (operating under the same biological mechanisms as natural evolution, albeit without man-made assistance) and through modern experimentation that demonstrates natural selection (e. coli experiments conducted over a period of years). It's considered falsifiable in that it can make predictions that, were they contradicted by available evidence, would falsify evolution -- for instance, if the fossil record were to reveal no change over time, or if there were any confirmation that mutations are prevented from occurring, evolution would immediately be severely suspect.

Please, explain how evolution isn't falsifiable or observable to such a degree as to warrant scientific merit. We'll hopefully be able to straighten out a few erroneous misconceptions you have as to what constitutes falsifiability or the merit of empirical evidence in science in the process, which I think is one of the more fundamental reasons you believe and think as you do.
 
You use a lot of big academic words but I don't think you know what you're talking about. From a humanist perspective, you do. But scientists are biased. Their presuppositions and conclusions are influenced by their worldview. It happens. There's no such thing as an objective/neutral scientist. Same evidence but different worldviews. The present is not the key to the past. The past is key to the present. Over and over again. Observational science and Origins science are two different things. But what do scientists know? They lead people to believe natural selection and evolution are one and the same. Clearly they're not.
 
The description about Jinns is pretty true and in islam its also believed that there are types of jinns which are powerful and also weak.
According to muslims, they also marry and have children and they live side by side with us and they can see us but we can't see them in their natural form.
 
The description about Jinns is pretty true and in islam its also believed that there are types of jinns which are powerful and also weak.
According to muslims, they also marry and have children and they live side by side with us and they can see us but we can't see them in their natural form.

Some people see them. They usually refer to them as ghosts. Some people can speak to them, those people are usually referred to as psychics and fortune tellers. So next time someone claims to be a prophet and seems to have information on you that they should not. They have just got that information from the bad Jinns that hangs around you trying to drag you into hell.

A lot of black magic was attributed to Solomon. Solomon was given the miracle of being able to control Jinn that is all.
 
Some people see them. They usually refer to them as ghosts. Some people can speak to them, those people are usually referred to as psychics and fortune tellers. So next time someone claims to be a prophet and seems to have information on you that they should not. They have just got that information from the bad Jinns that hangs around you trying to drag you into hell.

A lot of black magic was attributed to Solomon. Solomon was given the miracle of being able to control Jinn that is all.

Solomon was a womaniser but he wasn't a sorcerer, he was a man of God. Or is this some teaching of Islam or Jewish mysticism?
 
Solomon was a womaniser but he wasn't a sorcerer, he was a man of God. Or is this some teaching of Islam or Jewish mysticism?


1 Kings 11


6 So Solomon did evil in the eyes of the Lord; he did not follow the Lordcompletely, as David his father had done.
7 On a hill east of Jerusalem, Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the detestable god of Moab, and for Molek the detestable god of the Ammonites. 8 He did the same for all his foreign wives, who burned incense and offered sacrifices to their gods.
9 The Lord became angry with Solomon because his heart had turned away from the Lord, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice. 10 Although he had forbidden Solomon to follow other gods, Solomon did not keep the Lord’s command. 11 So the Lord said to Solomon, “Since this is your attitude and you have not kept my covenant and my decrees,which I commanded you, I will most certainly tear the kingdom away from you and give it to one of your subordinates. 12 Nevertheless, for the sake of David your father, I will not do it during your lifetime. I will tear it out of the hand of your son. 13 Yet I will not tear the whole kingdom from him, but will give him one tribe for the sake of David my servant and for the sake of Jerusalem, which I have chosen.”
 
Perhaps we should read the verse within the context of its chapter. Solomon was worshipping idols. While terrible, that's not witchcraft.
 
Perhaps we should read the verse within the context of its chapter. Solomon was worshipping idols. While terrible, that's not witchcraft.

not debating just adding information and why not a study on solomon, studies always edifying, verse 10 some would interpret as anything done for false god is blackmagic whilst others may see it differently. was enough to really upset god
 
Fair enough. And the worship of Molech was horrible, even without the addition of witchcraft.