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I still think part of Paul's thorn was his eyesight... If you notice he never went anywhere alone.. A lot of his letters had some kind of comment about his writing... Paul was a pharasee yet in acts when they brought him to the synagogue they hit him for bad mouthin the high priest and he even said he couldn't tell who was talking to him. In galatians he made the comment of see how big the letters are I write...... Of course he did have people all the time confronting him to his face.... God is good... That's all I can say
 

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I still think part of Paul's thorn was his eyesight... If you notice he never went anywhere alone.. A lot of his letters had some kind of comment about his writing... Paul was a pharasee yet in acts when they brought him to the synagogue they hit him for bad mouthin the high priest and he even said he couldn't tell who was talking to him. In galatians he made the comment of see how big the letters are I write...... Of course he did have people all the time confronting him to his face.... God is good... That's all I can say
Big letters? Do you mean like this?
 
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Art Thomas makes a powerful point. Jesus in you wants to heal you. So why not pray for each other.
Now if someone is just encouraging people to pray for each other using the faith the believer has and people find healing it is that simple. If this has been his experience, that is a good first step.

The point he is making is that Jesus is willing if you ask for it. You do though need faith to believe. And it is the faith of the person praying not the person on the receiving end. But this is not everything is resolved, but the idea that we should just pray is refreshing, especially if people are healed and things resolved.

My emphasis is still on transformation of the heart, love working through people, and walking in righteousness. Why would we not ask and reach out?
 
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There was no sickness to heal him from.....but the passage does say that the grace of Jesus was enough for the situation which was most likely people that were coming against him because of Paul's revelation of Jesus and His finished work. It was a messenger of satan...not from God...
Did God not allow Satan to afflict Job?
 
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Jesus trumps Job's experience.....things in Job are not as they might seem on the surface......we live in a New Covenant now....satan is no more in front of the Father..

Here is a link to help you out with the Job thing..it'll bless you..

Search Results Job – Escape to Reality
Job was blameless and upright - God had put a hedge around him and his house and all that he had . . He blessed the work of Job's hands and his possessions increased (Job 1:10) . . . Satan told God that Job would curse Him to His face if anything happened to all that he had. God removed that hedge of protection off of what belonged to Job but not off Job's life to prove that Job would be faithful to Him.

Isn't Satan called the "accuser of the brethren" and doesn't he accuse the brethren before God day and night? Rev. 12:10
 
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Thanks Grace777x70. God Bless!
 
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Job was blameless and upright - God had put a hedge around him and his house and all that he had . . He blessed the work of Job's hands and his possessions increased (Job 1:10) . . . Satan told God that Job would curse Him to His face if anything happened to all that he had. God removed that hedge of protection off of what belonged to Job but not off Job's life to prove that Job would be faithful to Him.

Isn't Satan called the "accuser of the brethren" and doesn't he accuse the brethren before God day and night? Rev. 12:10
I battle constant spiritual accusation.
 
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If you have a chance sometime take a look at the articles on Job on the website as it would take too long to talk about the whole book of Job here.

...concerning satan - he was cast out as this scripture below when Christ ascended to the Father after the resurrection..it actually starts in verse 1 onward...

Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

[SUP]10 [/SUP] Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.


Jesus Himself talked about satan being thrown out of heaven as well.

John 12:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.



Job was blameless and upright - God had put a hedge around him and his house and all that he had . . He blessed the work of Job's hands and his possessions increased (Job 1:10) . . . Satan told God that Job would curse Him to His face if anything happened to all that he had. God removed that hedge of protection off of what belonged to Job but not off Job's life to prove that Job would be faithful to Him.

Isn't Satan called the "accuser of the brethren" and doesn't he accuse the brethren before God day and night? Rev. 12:10
 
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I still think part of Paul's thorn was his eyesight... If you notice he never went anywhere alone.. A lot of his letters had some kind of comment about his writing... Paul was a pharasee yet in acts when they brought him to the synagogue they hit him for bad mouthin the high priest and he even said he couldn't tell who was talking to him. In galatians he made the comment of see how big the letters are I write...... Of course he did have people all the time confronting him to his face.... God is good... That's all I can say
hey Tx . . . I was just going by how "thorn in the flesh" was used previously (scripture interprets scripture). The account in Acts - could he not SEE who he was speaking to? or did he not KNOW that he was speaking to the high priest? Paul said "I did not know, brothers, that he was the high priest" NOT "I did not recognize him as the high priest" - there is a difference there. Also - the messenger of Satan was sent to "buffet" him - sent to mistreat, treat with violence and contumely (yea, I had to look it up to - it means insolence or insulting language or treatment) - just doesn't sound too much like "eyesight" to me.

And about the LARGE LETTERS - lol - See what large letters I am writing to you with my own hand - He had just finished the two large letters to the Corinthians (1 and 2 Corinthians) . . . I really believe he was talking about how large the epistles - the letters (not individual L.E.T.T.E.R.S.) were . . .

Yes - GOD IS GOOD!
 
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Don't accept it brother!...our enemy is the accuser...not God..He is for us. Jesus blood shouts louder then the accusations of our enemy...he is a liar from the beginning....study on the righteousness of Christ that is yours now because of what your Lord has done for you...study the new creation in Christ.....the lies of the enemy will dissipate and the loveliness of the Lord Jesus will take over in your heart and mind.


I battle constant spiritual accusation.
 

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Yay Jesus can even calm the storm in here! A changed heart is precious that's one of God's speciality.
 
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But Job wasn't righteous, he was prideful... No he never turned on God but he did say " I am pure and without transgression.. I am innocent, and there is no iniquity in me.". Satan couldn't make him turn against God but then he became full of himself when he got to a certain point where he had thought he reached his limit. None of us are innocent, pure or without some type of transgression. But we have a Saviour who makes us that way as only HE can...
 

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I know only that my healing came in Jesus through His spirit.
Although my flesh is still weak and continues in constant pain.
In Jesus, the life I am born into of His Spirit, is the life I live now!
Stronger than any flesh, living Jesus's victory through His Spirit.
How awesome and great is Our God, that flesh no longer holds me, but His spirit in Jesus, is the life I live!
For me this is the greatest healing, all flesh overcome, even that which tries to destroy the flesh.
For in Jesus I am healed, for I walk in His spirit, not flesh!

In Jesus, God bless
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But Job wasn't righteous, he was prideful... No he never turned on God but he did say " I am pure and without transgression.. I am innocent, and there is no iniquity in me.". Satan couldn't make him turn against God but then he became full of himself when he got to a certain point where he had thought he reached his limit. None of us are innocent, pure or without some type of transgression. But we have a Saviour who makes us that way as only HE can...
Job wasn't righteous? Think for a minute please. God said to Satan have you seen my servant Job. That there is none like Him on the Earth. think Bro Think.
 

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If you look at the ministry of Jesus and the apostles you'll notice that with the spreading of the Kingdom (and sharing the Gospel) accompanying it was always healing, signs, and wonders. It confirmed that which was preached and if Jesus and the apostles needed it how much more do we?

The two coincided, when the Gospel was preached. In many verses you'll notice that every time the Gospel was preached all were healed, not only in Jesus' ministry but also too the apostles. If they, the apostles and Jesus, are to be a lesson for us to glean and learn from then how far have we come to accept sickness as God's will at the price of declaring Jesus' death to be in vain.

Imagine standing before a blind man and telling him, "It is not the Lord's will for you to be healed this day." The audacity! To place the blame on God at the cost of this man's revelation of God's love. Are you a parent? Even so, a child? Could you see yourself with the cure for the disease that plagues your child and say, "Not today'? How about, "A little longer"? This is not what Jesus, nor the apostles, did in their ministry. They healed them all, they gave no excuse. So then, what is ours?

Too often truth is merely relegated to experience, and yet that is not how the Lord set things in motion. Our experience is tarnished by our perception and mindset, even so the outcome of our lives. This is why we are called to renew our minds, so that we may walk as He intended. As I once heard, something of the sort, our lives are simply an echo of what our mouths speak from the heart. It is ripe with expectation and faith, and so it comes. Have you ever said, "I knew that was going to happen"? Indeed, but how little do you know the principle of expectation at work.

VVe must believe that Jesus paid for our healing and that healing is in association with the Gospel. It is shown in the lives of Christ, Himself, and the apostles. Hope that God may heal you is not the same as belief. I may hope all the days of my life, but in it is not faith. If only I would take hold of the heart that is in my savior and take full recognition that it beats for me. He is risen, so that I may have life! Life abundantly. He is the Lord that forgives all my iniquities and heals all my diseases, according to His word. May I believe!

That is where the rubber hits the road, to believe. To expect. To be ripe with faith. No, it is not a measure of faith but simply to believe. To the mind it seems simple, but that is at the core the Gospel. Simplicity. Faith, to stand on God's word and know that He is not a liar. He is faithful. In the same way Jesus did not deny a person their healing how is it now risen He would deny you? He gave His life for you, what is a healing in comparison?

Excuses are piling up, and doctrines made to accommodate a lack of results. VVe do not wish to offend, but do we not consider how we may end up offending God by declaring Him a liar unknowingly in our zeal to protect the tender heart of the sick? May it not be so! Lets stand on truth, heal the sick. Believe! Christ healed all, the Apostles healed all, and so too must we be capable of such results if indeed such wonders have always accompanied the spreading of the Gospel.

I do not question your faith for God to heal today, His capabilities are not in question. He can. Of course He can. He is the Creator of Heaven and Earth. He speaks and it is so. I question your and my own, belief that God will heal me today. Not can He but will He? Not a hope, but an expectation for Him to fulfill His word. I need to stop hoping, for such hope may be in vain if I do not take Him at His word. I must believe. His will is for me to be healed today. That statement I must believe in my heart of hearts. May God place such a boldness in us. Not only so that we may receive our healing, but so too that the Gospel may be confirmed as it is preached. Just believe.
 
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Jesus trumps Job's experience.....things in Job are not as they might seem on the surface......we live in a New Covenant now....satan is no more in front of the Father..
This is a flat out falsehood. Satan is yet in heaven accusing us before the throne. He hasn't been ejected yet from heaven.

And I heard a loud voice in heaven saying, ​“Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, because the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, the one who accuses them before our God day and night. Revelation 12:10

Put on the full armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the strategems of the devil, because our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual [forces] of wickedness in the heavenly [places]. Ephesians 6:11-12
 

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This is a flat out falsehood. Satan is yet in heaven accusing us before the throne. He hasn't been ejected yet from heaven.
And I heard a loud voice in heaven saying, ​“Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, because the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, the one who accuses them before our God day and night. Revelation 12:10

Put on the full armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the strategems of the devil, because our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual [forces] of wickedness in the heavenly [places]. Ephesians 6:11-12
Yet we have Jesus our High Priest, our Advocate before the Father. :D