Jews In The Holocaust

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Anti- Semitic "Christians" were the cause of the Holocaust. That's where the idea was spawned, Hitler simply put it into practice.
I also want to point out that there were many Jews who followed Hitler, who killed and tortured their “own people”.
 
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Uhhh . . . folks? When are you going to acknowledge the Apostle Paul and what he told us? And what did he tell us? That God orchestrates all! God has done these things, so let's stop pointing fingers at anyone other than our Powerful, Lord and God.

Seriously . . . when?

Romans 11:7-8 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. 8 As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear."

Stop pointing fingers. Paul wants us all to know that God is in control . . . not us. This is the single most important concept of the Bible . . God's Omniscient Power. He has an Eternal Plan. Oh, I know . . . we just don't want to believe that so that we can claim that we're powerful as individuals. Suit yourselves . . . when you face God you'll see exactly what I mean. His Power will render you to nothing.

Ephesians 3:9-11 NLT - "I was chosen to explain to everyone this mysterious plan that God, the Creator of all things, had kept secret from the beginning. 10 God's purpose in all this was to use the church to display his wisdom in its rich variety to all the unseen rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. 11 This was his eternal plan, which he carried out through Christ Jesus our Lord."
Do we not have free will then? Has God in fact created us to be robots, then?
 

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Do we not have free will then? Has God in fact created us to be robots, then?
Oh wow. I just gave you a "winners" award. Of course, I had to remove it since you gave me a thumbs down on one of my posts.

Later
 

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Do we not have free will then? Has God in fact created us to be robots, then?
Well . . . I have between one and two hundred verses that essentially prove it. That said, it is the claim of the Bible, not me. So . . . maybe just go easy a bit. Good grief.
 
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Well . . . I have between one and two hundred verses that essentially prove it. That said, it is the claim of the Bible, not me. So . . . maybe just go easy a bit. Good grief.
I thought I did go easy, but I guess that is hard for me to do when I take God’s Word seriously. God IS in control of all things, but he allows mankind to practice the free will He created us with.

If we say that God causes us to do terrible things like the Holocaust and other wars and terrible things, then we are essentially blaming Him for causing us to commit the sins we commit. And, if God has caused us to do all the terrible things we do, then there was no reason for Christ to die on the cross for OUR sins.
 

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Do we not have free will then? Has God in fact created us to be robots, then?
Is there any other way to take what Paul said? Is he a liar? Is the translation wrong?

Romans 11:7-8 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. 8 As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear."

God chose those who were obedient. He chose them so that they would obey. Those who were not chosen, which is "most of Israel" was not chosen, thus they did not obey.

What's the problem with what Paul wrote? Why does it bug you so much?
 

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I thought I did go easy, but I guess that is hard for me to do when I take God’s Word seriously.
If you took the Word of God seriously, you'd be just as aware of His Power and Control as I am. All it takes is a sober reading of the entire Bible.
 

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It amazes me how people become upset with me . . . and what have I done? Oh lord . . . I quoted Scripture! No . . . not that!!!!!
 
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Oh wow. I just gave you a "winners" award. Of course, I had to remove it since you gave me a thumbs down on one of my posts.

Later
Lol. “Winners” awards, “dislikes”, or the fact that mere men dont like that I disagree with them has no affect on me. I live to serve and please God only.

It is what it is. I could not like your post because I disagreed with most of what you said. Its a fact of life that people won’t always like what you say and agree with you, just as people won‘t always like what I say and agree with me.
 
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If you took the Word of God seriously, you'd be just as aware of His Power and Control as I am. All it takes is a sober reading of the entire Bible.
You are assuming that I haven’t read the entire Bible or studied it in depth multiple times. If you must know, I‘m actually in a Christian school working on a degree for Divinity.

I also clearly remember telling you I agree that God is in full control- full control in which he allows us free will. Our free will is what allows us to sin, therefore needing a Savior. Denying that we choose to sin and disobey God because He has allowed us to is denying Christ.
 

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Lol. “Winners” awards, “dislikes”, or the fact that mere men dont like that I disagree with them has no affect on me. I live to serve and please God only.

It is what it is. I could not like your post because I disagreed with most of what you said. Its a fact of life that people won’t always like what you say and agree with you, just as people won‘t always like what I say and agree with me.
It makes no difference to me what you like and dislike. If you get off on people being aware how you dislike their posts . . . says a lot.
 

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If you must know, I‘m actually in a Christian school working on a degree for Divinity.
Makes sense. This is why you are unaware of the Power of God. I would NEVER pay to learn from "men" when I can just be taught by the Spirit for free. You fell for it hook, line and sinker.
 

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I also want to point out that there were many Jews who followed Hitler, who killed and tortured their “own people”.
Correct. There are (a) Satanic Jews (involved with the Synagogue of Satan) and (b) ordinary Jews who were victimized by these Satanic Jews as well as very evil Gentiles.

The irony now is that Satanic Jews have actually perpetrated a COVID Holocaust in Israel. Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world, and also has the a very high vaccine death rate. “There is a high correlation between the number of people vaccinated per day and the number of deaths per day, in the range of up to 10 days post-vaccination in all age groups.
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.co...-the-human-body-warns-israeli-health-experts/

"In an August 2021 paper entitled “Young adult mortality in Israel during the COVID-19 crisis,” Dr. Ohana examined a surge in Israeli youth deaths which he says are unexplained by anything other than a surge in vaccinations for the age group 20-49. Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, and is heavily studied as a prime ‘test tube'"
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com...ys-vaccination-causing-surge-in-child-deaths/
 
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Makes sense. This is why you are unaware of the Power of God.
It’s clear to me you are looking for someone to argue with and insult because you want to “be right”. I suggest you keep looking because I am not that person.

I know what I believe, you do not. You are assuming things about me and my college and insulting me and my college. You are a grade A “Christian”. I would expect nothing less from someone who thinks God causes people to sin. If I didn’t know any better, I would say you are jealous that I am taking classes to honor God.
 
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Correct. There are (a) Satanic Jews (involved with the Synagogue of Satan) and (b) ordinary Jews who were victimized by these Satanic Jews as well as very evil Gentiles.

The irony now is that Satanic Jews have actually perpetrated a COVID Holocaust in Israel. Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world, and also has the a very high vaccine death rate. “There is a high correlation between the number of people vaccinated per day and the number of deaths per day, in the range of up to 10 days post-vaccination in all age groups.
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.co...-the-human-body-warns-israeli-health-experts/

"In an August 2021 paper entitled “Young adult mortality in Israel during the COVID-19 crisis,” Dr. Ohana examined a surge in Israeli youth deaths which he says are unexplained by anything other than a surge in vaccinations for the age group 20-49. Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, and is heavily studied as a prime ‘test tube'"
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com...ys-vaccination-causing-surge-in-child-deaths/
I completely agree. The research I have done has led me to the same information. It’s absolutely crazy and it blew my mind when I started putting things together a few years ago. And as new things happen and new info emerges, my mind continued to be blown by the evil that surrounds us.
 
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It makes no difference to me what you like and dislike. If you get off on people being aware how you dislike their posts . . . says a lot.
I think you’re the one that brought up the fact that you removed the like you put on something I said because I disliked your post? Just as people have the right to share their opinion, I have the right to share what I think of that opinion. Isn’t that the point of a forum?
 

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It’s clear to me you are looking for someone to argue with and insult because you want to “be right”.
That's good. You gave me the thumbs down, yet I'm the one looking for a fight and needing to be right. Classic.
 

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I think you’re the one that brought up the fact that you removed the like you put on something I said because I disliked your post?
Yes.

Just as people have the right to share their opinion, I have the right to share what I think of that opinion. Isn’t that the point of a forum?
Suit yourself. If you look at the "reactions" under my profile, you'll note that I have not given one negative piece of feedback to anyone. I prefer that kind of person. But like I said, if "seminary" teaches you to be this way, so be it. And no, I'm not worried about what a "woman" has to say about me. Unbelievable . . . that you would take it to such lengths.
 
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Yes.



Suit yourself. If you look at the "reactions" under my profile, you'll note that I have not given one negative piece of feedback to anyone. I prefer that kind of person. But like I said, if "seminary" teaches you to be this way, so be it. And no, I'm not worried about what a "woman" has to say about me. Unbelievable . . . that you would take it to such lengths.
Ah, so now you use “woman” as an insult as if I am beneath you or under you. Newsflash: I am a co-heir with all Christian men who are saved. Every man who is truly saved understands this.

You are a mere man and I owe you no adoration or more respect than I would give anyone else. However, I would say I am being very respectful to you given the fact that you have insulted me not once, not twice, but three times now simply on the basis that I disagree with you and “disliked” your post. Now I see that you have insulted my knowledge of God’s Word not only because in general you think your beliefs are superior to others, but because I am a woman you believe you are superior to me. Are you sure you are reading The Bible and not The Quran?

With that being said, I’m not angry with you, and I forgive you for insulting me and my college and being angry with me over something trivial. Also, I suggest you look up the difference between “Bible College” and “Seminary”. I am not going to seminary, I go to a Bible College.

And just because you are assuming to know so much about me, I will tell you that before I started Bible College last year, I read the Bible from start to finish 4 times a year for 4 years in a row.
 
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That's good. You gave me the thumbs down, yet I'm the one looking for a fight and needing to be right. Classic.
I gave you the thumbs down because I disliked/disagreed with most of what you said. I am absolute blown away by how you are behaving towards me because I simply disliked your post. I seem to remember I explained to you why I disagreed with you and disliked your post, but instead of refuting me with scripture you are insulting me as a woman of God.

Whose the “classic” one, you say?