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Kind of harsh to "messenic Jews" but I think that is straightforwardly what they are trying to do...
So...I was in church on sunday at the World Outreach Worship Center (a pentecostal church) in Yorktown, VA when they let a women Jewish bishop preach this last sunday....
First question, yes it was greeted with aplause in the church when it was announced that she was the first women bishop ever in her sect of Judaism...
Anyway, I think she went off the deep end and wants Christians to get obsessed with the law instead of loving Jesus Christ...
She went on about so many strange things...the place where I actually walked out is when she called the church to repent of using the name Jesus Christ and accept the name of Yeshua instead...I think that is blatently rediculuos...the new testament in the manuscripts we have was mainly written in greek, hence Jesus Christ would have been a name he would have actually probably have gone by...remember the Jews were under Roman rule and most Jews at this time spoke like three languages, all of which they would have been familiar with...the whole church basically came forward as if they needed to accept Jesus Christ again, I stod up, reverenced the church, then walked straight out, baffled by a belief I have to go find another church...
But this was NOT the most extreme thing she said, unlike a lot of people that connect the beast in revelations to the catholic church, she actually connected it directly to any church that uses the name Jesus Christ instead of Yeshua, and went even farther to say that in the end times when Jesus separates the sheep from the goats, those who refuse to follow Jewish law will be goats and those who do follow Jewish law will be lambs.
She even had a 'scam' that is rather prevelant like a cancer in a lot of Christian churches already...if you do not agree with her she had the trump card of saying "Those who bless me will be blessed and those who curse me will be cursed." meaning-- if you agree with everything I say God will bless you but otherwise you are cursed...I have seen this verse used by sketchy pastors to try to get individual members of the congregation to by him a car or a new house, or a large Christmas bonus...and such other frivolties...
The thing that bothers me the most is there is something things that are poignantly clear in the Bible that they would have and still challenge...such as the verse where by Jesus' own words he declared all foods clean when he said "it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person but what comes out of the heart." Peter was also a little too worried about Jewish customs on two occassions, one when an angel told him to eat all kinds of animals (was this a deceptive spirit? I think not) and secondly when he drew back from the gentiles when he saw Jews enter a congregation...I am honestly sure that unless it was so clear that circumcision was not needed they would still be demanding foreskins...but wait at the messenic Jewish congregation that meets in the church building of this congregation I have heard that they DO STILL DEMAND FORESKINS and then most of the outer image.
There is a reason why people that you think might be good people don't accept Jesus Christ...it is not hard to do, quite simple, and just requires that you accept what has been done for you...
And likewise, there is a reason why "messenic Jews" won't accept the name Christians...they are still really at heart blinded Jews and not Christians...this reminds me of Paul who even states that if he gives thanks for what he eats why should he be condemned, and also Paul's rebuke of Peter whom he said 'ate like gentiles and not like Jews.' Obviously they has left there Jewish dogma to accept Christ...
I believe it is in Colossians that it states not to be concerned about a new moon or a sabbath or a holy day, because these are just symbols of which Jesus Christ is the reality, but as the sabbath has already been dealt with in depth I think I wish this not to get side tracked with the foolishness of those who demand 'rest'...
I was going to title this why I think what most people call 'replacement theology' is the truth...but I think this title is more clear...
So start the rampage, be considerate, open and free from lies, and lets have a "discussion."
Show us the way and law of your love, O Lord our Savior
your Holy will.
tony
So...I was in church on sunday at the World Outreach Worship Center (a pentecostal church) in Yorktown, VA when they let a women Jewish bishop preach this last sunday....
First question, yes it was greeted with aplause in the church when it was announced that she was the first women bishop ever in her sect of Judaism...
Anyway, I think she went off the deep end and wants Christians to get obsessed with the law instead of loving Jesus Christ...
She went on about so many strange things...the place where I actually walked out is when she called the church to repent of using the name Jesus Christ and accept the name of Yeshua instead...I think that is blatently rediculuos...the new testament in the manuscripts we have was mainly written in greek, hence Jesus Christ would have been a name he would have actually probably have gone by...remember the Jews were under Roman rule and most Jews at this time spoke like three languages, all of which they would have been familiar with...the whole church basically came forward as if they needed to accept Jesus Christ again, I stod up, reverenced the church, then walked straight out, baffled by a belief I have to go find another church...
But this was NOT the most extreme thing she said, unlike a lot of people that connect the beast in revelations to the catholic church, she actually connected it directly to any church that uses the name Jesus Christ instead of Yeshua, and went even farther to say that in the end times when Jesus separates the sheep from the goats, those who refuse to follow Jewish law will be goats and those who do follow Jewish law will be lambs.
She even had a 'scam' that is rather prevelant like a cancer in a lot of Christian churches already...if you do not agree with her she had the trump card of saying "Those who bless me will be blessed and those who curse me will be cursed." meaning-- if you agree with everything I say God will bless you but otherwise you are cursed...I have seen this verse used by sketchy pastors to try to get individual members of the congregation to by him a car or a new house, or a large Christmas bonus...and such other frivolties...
The thing that bothers me the most is there is something things that are poignantly clear in the Bible that they would have and still challenge...such as the verse where by Jesus' own words he declared all foods clean when he said "it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person but what comes out of the heart." Peter was also a little too worried about Jewish customs on two occassions, one when an angel told him to eat all kinds of animals (was this a deceptive spirit? I think not) and secondly when he drew back from the gentiles when he saw Jews enter a congregation...I am honestly sure that unless it was so clear that circumcision was not needed they would still be demanding foreskins...but wait at the messenic Jewish congregation that meets in the church building of this congregation I have heard that they DO STILL DEMAND FORESKINS and then most of the outer image.
There is a reason why people that you think might be good people don't accept Jesus Christ...it is not hard to do, quite simple, and just requires that you accept what has been done for you...
And likewise, there is a reason why "messenic Jews" won't accept the name Christians...they are still really at heart blinded Jews and not Christians...this reminds me of Paul who even states that if he gives thanks for what he eats why should he be condemned, and also Paul's rebuke of Peter whom he said 'ate like gentiles and not like Jews.' Obviously they has left there Jewish dogma to accept Christ...
I believe it is in Colossians that it states not to be concerned about a new moon or a sabbath or a holy day, because these are just symbols of which Jesus Christ is the reality, but as the sabbath has already been dealt with in depth I think I wish this not to get side tracked with the foolishness of those who demand 'rest'...
I was going to title this why I think what most people call 'replacement theology' is the truth...but I think this title is more clear...
So start the rampage, be considerate, open and free from lies, and lets have a "discussion."
Show us the way and law of your love, O Lord our Savior
your Holy will.
tony