Kentucky Governor vs JD Vance Abortion Quote

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear sparked an outcry on Tuesday when he appeared to suggest GOP vice presidential candidate Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, should experience a rape-induced pregnancy.

Beshear expressed outrage to "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski over Vance supposedly calling pregnancy from rape an "inconvenience," repeating a Democratic attack that was fact-checked as out of context when it was leveled by Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan during his Senate race against Vance in 2022.

"Make him go through this," the governor stated.He told the anchor that "empowering people to make their own decisions" was "front and center" at the Democratic National Convention on Monday night.

Vance blasted Beshear’s words on X, stating, "What the hell is this? Why is @AndyBeshearKY wishing that a member of my family would get raped?!? What a disgusting person."

So there is the argument in a nut shell. What's your take on the situation. Abortion is one of many issues facing the nation. Where do you personally come down on the subject? Please explain why and use the Word to back up why you feel as you do if possible.

 

[Nehemiah6]

What's your take on the situation. Abortion is one of many issues facing the nation. Where do you personally come down on the subject? Please explain why and use the Word to back up why you feel as you do if possible.

Andy Beshear is indeed disgusting. How did this person become a governor? Abortion is essentially a NON-ISSUE if it were to be left alone. There should be no tax dollars to support it. People who wish to have abortions should pay for them and make their private decisions in private. They are generally used for birth control, not because the mother is in any danger. And abortions have actually declined in the USA since 1990 according to Pew Research. Has anyone sat down to ask "Why?" A lot of mothers have regretted having abortions.

But the Democrats believe that the general population supports the killing of innocent infants and babies. They have nothing of value to offer Americans, so they focus on garbage or worse. Abortion is murder in the first degree, and the Ten Commandments forbid murder. And murder is a crime under every law, but because one Supreme Court decided to falsify the truth, abortion became permissible. But last year SCOTUS ruled that it is not a constitutional right. It never was.

 

[JayBird]

What's your take on the situation.

They both can do better.

The KY Gov. should never wish harm on anyone.

Vance should try to find some empathy for victims of rape.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Andy Beshear is indeed disgusting. How did this person become a governor? Abortion is essentially a NON-ISSUE if it were to be left alone. There should be no tax dollars to support it. People who wish to have abortions should pay for them and make their private decisions in private. They are generally used for birth control, not because the mother is in any danger. And abortions have actually declined in the USA since 1990 according to Pew Research. Has anyone sat down to ask "Why?" A lot of mothers have regretted having abortions.

But the Democrats believe that the general population supports the killing of innocent infants and babies. They have nothing of value to offer Americans, so they focus on garbage or worse. Abortion is murder in the first degree, and the Ten Commandments forbid murder. And murder is a crime under every law, but because one Supreme Court decided to falsify the truth, abortion became permissible. But last year SCOTUS ruled that it is not a constitutional right. It never was.

The thing is Andy brags on his Christian heritage, how his grandfather was a preacher. Brags about being a deacon in his church. But he's on board with abortion, among other things. smh

 

[Tamarisk]

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear sparked an outcry on Tuesday when he appeared to suggest GOP vice presidential candidate Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, should experience a rape-induced pregnancy.

Beshear expressed outrage to "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski over Vance supposedly calling pregnancy from rape an "inconvenience," repeating a Democratic attack that was fact-checked as out of context when it was leveled by Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan during his Senate race against Vance in 2022.

"Make him go through this," the governor stated.He told the anchor that "empowering people to make their own decisions" was "front and center" at the Democratic National Convention on Monday night.

Vance blasted Beshear’s words on X, stating, "What the hell is this? Why is @AndyBeshearKY wishing that a member of my family would get raped?!? What a disgusting person."

So there is the argument in a nut shell. What's your take on the situation. Abortion is one of many issues facing the nation. Where do you personally come down on the subject? Please explain why and use the Word to back up why you feel as you do if possible.

It’s possible to keep your political opinions separate from your religious opinions.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

It’s possible to keep your political opinions separate from your religious opinions.

It is if religious is all you are. Which is what Andy is. Should we have kept our opinions separate when peoplei were being slaughtered in the Holocaust? Should have kept them separate when slaves were being whipped in fields in the south? Because many religious people looked the other way. Should we have kept them separate when children were working in factories? All these issues and many more were stopped because Christians stood up against it knowing it was wrong when they could have sat on their hands and said "Well the Bible says things will get worse" and put their fingers in their ears. So yes, you can sit back and not be political, thank God not everyone took that opinion.

63,459,781, the number of abortions since Roe v Wade. Those are souls lost, each a life precious to God. And the women that murdered their own baby? No one talks of the guilt and agony they suffer years after the fact.

Nearly 70% of women with a history of abortion describe their abortions as inconsistent with their own values and preferences, with one in four describing their abortions as unwanted or coerced, according to the study published in the medical journal Cureus.

But hey, let's keep our religion separate , sit on our hands while this silent Holocaust continues.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

They both can do better.

The KY Gov. should never wish harm on anyone.

Vance should try to find some empathy for victims of rape.

What he actually said below...

"Vance was asked whether laws should allow women to get abortions if they were victims of rape or incest. He said society should not view a pregnancy or birth resulting from rape or incest as “inconvenient.”

“My view on this has been very clear and I think the question betrays a certain presumption that is wrong,” Vance said in 2021. “It’s not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term, it’s whether a child should be allowed to live, even though the circumstances of that child’s birth are somehow inconvenient or a problem to the society. The question really, to me, is about the baby.”

 

[JayBird]

What he actually said below...

"Vance was asked whether laws should allow women to get abortions if they were victims of rape or incest. He said society should not view a pregnancy or birth resulting from rape or incest as “inconvenient.”

“My view on this has been very clear and I think the question betrays a certain presumption that is wrong,” Vance said in 2021. “It’s not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term, it’s whether a child should be allowed to live, even though the circumstances of that child’s birth are somehow inconvenient or a problem to the society. The question really, to me, is about the baby.”

I can't believe anyone would defend someone referring to a rape as "somehow inconvenient".

That's horrible.

 

[ZNP]

I can't believe anyone would defend someone referring to a rape as "somehow inconvenient".

That's horrible.

so is murder of the baby, so is human sacrifice to Moloch.

The scriptural way to erase a sin is not with another sin, it is with mercy.

 

[JayBird]

so is murder of the baby, so is human sacrifice to Moloch.

The scriptural way to erase a sin is not with another sin, it is with mercy.

The problem is, no one except an actual victim can understand what it's like to be a victim of rape and then find out you're pregnant. But at the very least, I hope we can all agree that it's not merely "inconvenient". That's as uncaring and callous as it gets.

What to do after that should be a personal decision, and most certainly not something dictated by big government. It should be a private, personal matter that honestly isn't anyone else's business.

 

[Tamarisk]

It is if religious is all you are. Which is what Andy is. Should we have kept our opinions separate when peoplei were being slaughtered in the Holocaust? Should have kept them separate when slaves were being whipped in fields in the south? Because many religious people looked the other way. Should we have kept them separate when children were working in factories? All these issues and many more were stopped because Christians stood up against it knowing it was wrong when they could have sat on their hands and said "Well the Bible says things will get worse" and put their fingers in their ears. So yes, you can sit back and not be political, thank God not everyone took that opinion.

63,459,781, the number of abortions since Roe v Wade. Those are souls lost, each a life precious to God. And the women that murdered their own baby? No one talks of the guilt and agony they suffer years after the fact.

Nearly 70% of women with a history of abortion describe their abortions as inconsistent with their own values and preferences, with one in four describing their abortions as unwanted or coerced, according to the study published in the medical journal Cureus.

But hey, let's keep our religion separate , sit on our hands while this silent Holocaust continues.

So you and I believe abortion should be illegal. Except 85% of Americans do not believe this. So you would have to use political and physical force to impose the will of the minority on the majority.


America was founded by rebelling against that dynamic.

We would be ending the American experiment and become what we rebelled against.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

So you and I believe abortion should be illegal. Except 85% of Americans do not believe this. So you would have to use political and physical force to impose the will of the minority on the majority.


America was founded by rebelling against that dynamic.

We would be ending the American experiment and become what we rebelled against.

• 61 % of Americans believe abortion should only be legal during the first three months of pregnancy, or in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.

•More than half of American voters believe abortion should be banned after 6 weeks.

•Only 13% of Americans believe abortion should be legal in the last three months of pregnancy

•87 % of Americans say abortion should be illegal after the first 6 months of pregnancy.

•Only 6-17 percent of Americans (depending on how the question is asked and by whom) believe abortion should be legal at any time, in all circumstances.

America isn't a theocracy. But that doesn't mean you don't stand with what is right. Dems literally celebrate and promote abortion. It's their golden calf.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I can't believe anyone would defend someone referring to a rape as "somehow inconvenient".

That's horrible.

Did you read what he said? Apparently not. Rapes are 1% of abortions but Dems like to use that and incest as if they are an every day occurrence. You can easily stop both but that's another issue, Dems soft on crime. Death penalty for rape or incest, problem solved.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

The problem is, no one except an actual victim can understand what it's like to be a victim of rape and then find out you're pregnant. But at the very least, I hope we can all agree that it's not merely "inconvenient". That's as uncaring and callous as it gets.

It's 1% of abortions, rare, like abortion was supposed to be. Get tough on crime and it will be less that 1%. 94% of abortions are had on healthy women having healthy babies. That is where the issue lies.

 

[Tamarisk]

• 61 % of Americans believe abortion should only be legal during the first three months of pregnancy, or in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.

•More than half of American voters believe abortion should be banned after 6 weeks.

•Only 13% of Americans believe abortion should be legal in the last three months of pregnancy

•87 % of Americans say abortion should be illegal after the first 6 months of pregnancy.

•Only 6-17 percent of Americans (depending on how the question is asked and by whom) believe abortion should be legal at any time, in all circumstances.

America isn't a theocracy. But that doesn't mean you don't stand with what is right. Dems literally celebrate and promote abortion. It's their golden calf.

We all know Republicans want a blanketed federal ban of abortion. Maybe you don’t but that’s what your party wants. In an order to put that into law the government would have to use physical force on Americans.

I have posted the video many times on this board that shows direct connection to Trump and project 2025. The Director at the time said that he would be stepping down and going to work on the Trump campaign writing policy and to remove the connection from the heritage foundation to the Trump administration. He said the president would continue to deny and not to listen to that. This was somebody who was in his administration and is working on his campaign.

I’m honestly done talking about this. You’re gonna continue to deny it and I’m going to continue to show you information to the contrary and it’s just gonna go back-and-forth like that. Whenever republicans show me evidence that contradicts my belief system. I change my beliefs. Because I have to in order to operate in reality. If you choose not to operate in reality, that’s not my responsibility.

At that point, you honestly need to speak to a mental health professional.

Here is the video again.

 

[NightTwister]

I can't believe anyone would defend someone referring to a rape as "somehow inconvenient".

That's horrible.

There you go again, bearing false witness.

 

[NightTwister]

We all know Republicans want a blanketed federal ban of abortion. Maybe you don’t but that’s what your party wants. In an order to put that into law the government would have to use physical force on Americans.

I have posted the video many times on this board that shows direct connection to Trump and project 2025. The Director at the time said that he would be stepping down and going to work on the Trump campaign writing policy and to remove the connection from the heritage foundation to the Trump administration. He said the president would continue to deny and not to listen to that. This was somebody who was in his administration and is working on his campaign.

I’m honestly done talking about this. You’re gonna continue to deny it and I’m going to continue to show you information to the contrary and it’s just gonna go back-and-forth like that. Whenever republicans show me evidence that contradicts my belief system. I change my beliefs. Because I have to in order to operate in reality. If you choose not to operate in reality, that’s not my responsibility.

At that point, you honestly need to speak to a mental health professional.

Here is the video again.

So many lies, so little time.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I’m honestly done talking about this.
At that point, you honestly need to speak to a mental health professional.

I could care less about your video. I'm saying as Christian, you stand behind what is right. You aren't if you're supporting Dems. And you can't justify it, I don't care what video you throw in here. You can't claim to be a born again Christian and support the Dem party that glorifies and celebrates abortion. So maybe it's YOU who needs the mental health professional if you can't see the difference. Tired of these stunned arguments!!

 

[SomeDisciple]

I can't believe anyone would defend someone referring to a rape as "somehow inconvenient".

That's horrible.

Or maybe you're just horrible at reading; because that's not what he said. He said the circumstances of the child's BIRTH not the circumstance of the child's conception.

What to do after that should be a personal decision, and most certainly not something dictated by big government. It should be a private, personal matter that honestly isn't anyone else's business.

If you mean what to do with regard to abortion; this is nonsense. Destroying human life isn't a "private personal matter", or a "personal decision". You can't do it.

 

[JayBird]

Did you read what he said? Apparently not. Rapes are 1% of abortions but Dems like to use that and incest as if they are an every day occurrence. You can easily stop both but that's another issue, Dems soft on crime. Death penalty for rape or incest, problem solved.

I didn't think the point of the OP was about abortion policy, but was instead about how Americans talk with each other.