King James Bible ONLY? Or NOT?

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SovereignGrace said:
The kingdom of God/heaven I see as one-and-the-same. This kingdom is the body of believers, of which He rules over.
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I don't know if the two kingdoms are the same or not, maybe so. I believe the bible teaches that the kingdom of heaven is the spiritual realm on earth. Jesus came down from heaven and was still in heaven while on earth... 2 different heavens. We can't see this spiritual kingdom unless we are born again. Perfect examples woud be the Super Bowl lights going out for exactly 33 minutes or 9/11, the announcement of the birth of confusion. Most people didn't catch or even notice either of those.
 
KJV1611 said:
I don't know if the two kingdoms are the same or not, maybe so. I believe the bible teaches that the kingdom of heaven is the spiritual realm on earth. Jesus came down from heaven and was still in heaven while on earth... 2 different heavens. We can't see this spiritual kingdom unless we are born again. Perfect examples woud be the Super Bowl lights going out for exactly 33 minutes or 9/11, the announcement of the birth of confusion. Most people didn't catch or even notice either of those.
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But you're saying you were saved first, and then born again later. You're saying you was saved but not possessing the Spirit until later. Without His Spirit, we are not His. The birth in the Spirit is first, and simultaenous with being saved.
 
SovereignGrace said:
But you're saying you were saved first, and then born again later. You're saying you was saved but not possessing the Spirit until later. Without His Spirit, we are not His. The birth in the Spirit is first, and simultaenous with being saved.
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Double-speak is allowed because the KJVO'ers are the final authority. He is claiming special divine revelation as well.
 
KJV1611 said:
I don't know if the two kingdoms are the same or not, maybe so. I believe the bible teaches that the kingdom of heaven is the spiritual realm on earth. Jesus came down from heaven and was still in heaven while on earth... 2 different heavens. We can't see this spiritual kingdom unless we are born again. Perfect examples woud be the Super Bowl lights going out for exactly 33 minutes or 9/11, the announcement of the birth of confusion. Most people didn't catch or even notice either of those.
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So, the Superbowl lights going out for exactly 33 minutes is a Divine Revelation from God, only those born again by the KJV, (since there is no other way to be so since all other versions are corrupt) can see these signs?

Tell us, what does that sign mean? It must mean the KJV is the only true Bible (just making a blind stab in the dark). Or it means something else, or whatever subjective meaning one gives it.

See? People don't really believe their KJV, unless they receive divine revelation and see signs, and are "shown" via signs that the KJV is the only Word of God. IOW, you cannot see these things as they can unless you're saved. So, all others are lost until they see these things.

Oh, just ftr: Super Bowl: Prophetic Sign to the World | Doug Addison
 
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KJV1611 said:
Why anybody use bibles that contradict one another? How can I be born again from corruptible seed?
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Do you believe that to be saved or born again that you must read the KJV? A lot of folks are saved before even picking up a bible. Being born again is certainly not predicated on what version of the bible you read.
 
SovereignGrace said:
The Hebrew word 'Heylel' is used in english as 'Lucifer'. Lucifer was not Satan himself, but the Babylonian king(probably Belshazzer), and was possibly symbolic of Satan's fall. Now, 'Heylel' means "light-bringer" with that in quotations, as he did not literally bear light, as only God does that.

The true morning star in Revelation 2:28 is the Christ.
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Light-bringer pretty much lines up with:

2 Corinthians 11:14 KJV
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

We know from 2 Corinthians 11:14 that Satan is Lucifer in Isaiah 14.
 
limey410 said:
Do you believe that to be saved or born again that you must read the KJV? A lot of folks are saved before even picking up a bible. Being born again is certainly not predicated on what version of the bible you read.
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Obviously he believes this. His argument is we cannot be born again of corruptible seed (modern versions) but of incorruptible (the KJV). He claimed this in a past post.
 
SovereignGrace said:
But you're saying you were saved first, and then born again later. You're saying you was saved but not possessing the Spirit until later. Without His Spirit, we are not His. The birth in the Spirit is first, and simultaenous with being saved.
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Then why was Paul travailing to birth Christ in SAVED Galatians?

Galatians 4:19 KJV
My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
 
hey, guys? you do what you think is right, but i believe there's hope for KJV1611.

i mean... if God could change my thinking, in my broken, finite little mind, He can do it for anyone! :)

not that i was ever KJVO, but ya know? there was a lot of wrong stuff i was believing. :o

and i trust God will go right on showing me my errors, because He's just so faithful to His dear yet helpless children.

ps-- it's my birthday. people can say things like this on their birthdays, right? lol
 
KJV1611 said:
New translations - Jesus is God's only son, the morning star fell from heaven, a son of the gods was in the fiery furnace, Ahaziah's age is wrong, a mark ON the right hand or forehead, the souls that came out of Egypt, the people are preserved rather than word of God... that's just off the top of my head.
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IKR? Everything is just off the top of your head, including the signs you see in the SB lights going out. Talk about being led astray by myths and superstition.

Your post tells us the KJV is incorrect, not the modern versions. Where are the exact contradictions? You claimed it, substantiate it without talking just off the top of your head?
 
preacher4truth said:
So, the Superbowl lights going out for exactly 33 minutes is a Divine Revelation from God, only those born again by the KJV, (since there is no other way to be so since all other versions are corrupt) can see these signs?

Tell us, what does that sign mean? It must mean the KJV is the only true Bible (just making a blind stab in the dark). Or it means something else, or whatever subjective meaning one gives it.

See? People don't really believe their KJV, unless they receive divine revelation and see signs, and are "shown" via signs that the KJV is the only Word of God. IOW, you cannot see these things as they can unless you're saved. So, all others are lost until they see these things.

Oh, just ftr: Super Bowl: Prophetic Sign to the World | Doug Addison
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Why did Jesus die at 33 years old, he made a show of his enemies on the cross didn't he... what does 33 represent in the bible?
 
Has anyone got an MKJV other name KJV21 at century. Just wanted to know if it's like for like in modernisation?
 
limey410 said:
Do you believe that to be saved or born again that you must read the KJV? A lot of folks are saved before even picking up a bible. Being born again is certainly not predicated on what version of the bible you read.
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The bible teaches that to be saved all we have to do is confess the Lord Jesus and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead.

Romans 10:9 KJV
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

We are born again BY the word of God.... if a person is not exposed to the incorruptible word of God then how can this person possibly be born again?

1 Peter 1:23 KJV
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
 
KJV1611 said:
Then why was Paul travailing to birth Christ in SAVED Galatians?

Galatians 4:19 KJV
My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
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Um, he stood in doubt of their genuine conversion since they were moved away from the Gospel. He is hoping for evidence of conversion, not for the KJV to come along and save them.
 
preacher4truth said:
Obviously he believes this. His argument is we cannot be born again of corruptible seed (modern versions) but of incorruptible (the KJV). He claimed this in a past post.
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Isn't the incorruptible seed, the Holy Spirit of God?
 
preacher4truth said:
IKR? Everything is just off the top of your head, including the signs you see in the SB lights going out. Talk about being led astray by myths and superstition.

Your post tells us the KJV is incorrect, not the modern versions. Where are the exact contradictions? You claimed it, substantiate it without talking just off the top of your head?
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Who is the morning star?

Isaiah 14:12New International Version (NIV)

12 How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!


Revelation 22:16New International Version (NIV)

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
 
KJV1611 said:
The bible teaches that to be saved all we have to do is confess the Lord Jesus and believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead.

Romans 10:9 KJV
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

We are born again BY the word of God.... if a person is not exposed to the incorruptible word of God then how can this person possibly be born again?

1 Peter 1:23 KJV
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
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respectfully, we're not saved by the written word, though it is through the foolishness of the message preached.

we're saved by The Living Word.
 
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