Law Keeping?

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Cee

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I can usually tell a law keeper, because they like to use Hebraic words even though they are speaking English, and the only time they use these words in discussions of religion. If you want to keep the law, great, do it.

Here's how you do it:

Galatians 11:11But if I, brothers,[SUP]b[/SUP] still preach[SUP]c[/SUP] circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed.

Look at this Scripture and think really clearly. Why was Paul persecuted by the JEWS? Because Paul taught they didn't need to keep the law. What do you think the offense of the cross is? It offends the law-keepers because of jealousy over OUR freedom. They try to put other people in bondage to their law keeping. It is done through control and guilt. Not because they want to do it, but because they themselves are under it.

"I keep the law because I love Jesus."

Okay great then YOU keep the law. Have fun with it. If that is important to you, then go at it. But when you start saying things like this to get other people to feel like they have to keep the law to love Jesus like you you're engaging in manipulation. Let that one sink deep. You are not the Holy Spirit. WE do not convict people. Fancy Hebraic words do not make us an authority.

Galatians 11:12I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!

Any idea why Paul says emasculate? Because the law keepers taught they needed circumcision to be right with God. How did Paul feel about doing anything outside of Christ to be right with God? He wanted them to emasculate themselves.

Galatians 11:13
For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

You were called to freedom. That means you're free. Seriously. You don't have to do anything to be right with God. You are right with God. And BECAUSE you are loved and right with God. You can serve one another without obligation. Love serves without obligation. Remember the parable between the elder brother and the younger brother? Who was that directed at? Pharisees. Why? Because they served God under obligation. So when his younger brother came in without obligation he was jealous.

Galatians 11:14For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

For the WHOLE law is fulfilled in one word. Note the absence of loving God. That's because now we show love for God by our love for one another. Remember the sheep and the goats? Mhmm.

Loving people is the WHOLE law. Because loving people is how you show you love God for loving you and setting you free. Now without obligation you get to love others. That's freedom. Freedom to love.

Galatians 2:14But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”

C.
 
wait, what if you really really love your neighbor's wife. and you two run away together. is that a sin?
 
disciplemike;bt19451 said:
wait, what if you really really love your neighbor's wife. and you two run away together. is that a sin?

He might love her (eros).

But he doesn't love him. (agape).

Love is defined in 1 Co 13.

4Love is patient, love is kind, love is not envious, it is not boastful, it is not puffed up. 5It does not act unbecomingly, it does not seek the things of its own, is not easily provoked, it keeps no account of wrongs. 6It does not delight at unrighteousness, but rejoices in the truth. 7It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

I would say that in your example, the person is envious of his neighbor's wife, seeks his own pleasure over his neighbor's, and is not rejoicing in truth. So no.

Further Jesus defines love:

John 15:3 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.

Did the person lay down his life for his neighbor? I don't think so.

As usual though, "what if" questions don't really drive home the truth of the gospel. They are pure speculation and create scenarios that don't really exist. If a person was loving according to the gospel, would he run away with his neighbor's wife? No. Does it happen? Yes, but that person doesn't understand love, they probably don't even truly know God's love for them. Which is why they feel like they need to seek their neighbor's wife instead of trusting Him to provide.
 
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