Lets build a fire!

[JamOn]

I didn't exclude myself. I know the nature of my own sin. That's why I closed how I did. We and us.

I’ll give you that, though are you saying you couldn’t stop yourself from vipering.

 

[JamOn]

I know I’ve used the colorful words myself,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Should there be that roughness?
Would God be well pleased?

There was roughness in the NT. Mostly initiated by the apostles.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

I’ll give you that, though are you saying you couldn’t stop yourself from vipering.

Not exactly.
I have made many posts for this thread. And I know the nature of what was written in them. That is the only one that made it. I deleted all the rest of them.
I know calling people vipers is a pretty harsh indictment, but I felt that it needed to be said. We need to be convicted by a reflection of ourselves. We need to be able to see who we are and how we are acting. So that we recognize the truth, and are convicted and thusly repent.
Law and gospel, law for conviction and repentance, and gospel for mercy and Grace.

 

[Lightskin]

Probably the best thing said in this whole thread.

From the start, this thread looked like a problem. Sure enough the vipers attacked one another.

Seems to me that this was a missed opportunity to mend some fences. If more mature heads had ruled.
I don't know how all of y'all ended up at odds, and I don't really care. It's easy to be offended, but I always say being offended is a position of weakness.

It's ok though, we all far short of the Glory of God, and all need to repent.
Being a Christian pretty much means a life of repentance.

My observation from being here just three days is that some people have grown tired of having fingers pointed at them from people who preach against pointing fingers.

I saw the following the other day on a different site and it struck a chord: some people don’t want to hear your opinion; they want to hear their opinion coming out of your mouth.

The issues addressed in the OP should have been handled via PMs or seeking moderator guidance or intervention. If these tactics were embraced and proved inadequate, then shake the dust off your feet by using the ignore button and call it a day. IMO the OP was designed in part, to further strife. Just my two cents.

 

[JamOn]

Not exactly.
I have made many posts for this thread. And I know the nature of what was written in them. That is the only one that made it. I deleted all the rest of them.
I know calling people vipers is a pretty harsh indictment, but I felt that it needed to be said. We need to be convicted by a reflection of ourselves. We need to be able to see who we are and how we are acting. So that we recognize the truth, and are convicted and thusly repent.
Law and gospel, law for conviction and repentance, and gospel for mercy and Grace.

I hear what your saying, its dicey because I hear what others are saying also.

Making many posts should be a indication it kind of was to me.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

"Lightskin, post: 4004045, member: 288073"]My observation from being here just three days is that some people have grown tired of having fingers pointed at them from people who preach against pointing fingers.

I saw the following the other day on a different site and it struck a chord: some people don’t want to hear your opinion; they want to hear their opinion coming out of your mouth.

The issues addressed in the OP should have been handled via PMs or seeking moderator guidance or intervention. If these tactics were embraced and proved inadequate, then shake the dust off your feet by using the ignore button and call it a day. IMO the OP was designed in part, to further strife. Just my two cents.


this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Not exactly.
I have made many posts for this thread. And I know the nature of what was written in them. That is the only one that made it. I deleted all the rest of them.
I know calling people vipers is a pretty harsh indictment, but I felt that it needed to be said. We need to be convicted by a reflection of ourselves. We need to be able to see who we are and how we are acting. So that we recognize the truth, and are convicted and thusly repent.
Law and gospel, law for conviction and repentance, and gospel for mercy and Grace.

coming from you, who recently said my post was vile, simpy because I disagreed with what you said because I am not American and did not know that the gun laws from state to state can be so different, well, let's just say you lack the grace with which you think others should address each other

apart from the vile application, you also basically said I was stupid and you would have thought me more intelligent

sounds like you think calling names and being rude is the way to go after all

 

[Locoponydirtman]

coming from you, who recently said my post was vile, simpy because I disagreed with what you said because I am not American and did not know that the gun laws from state to state can be so different, well, let's just say you lack the grace with which you think others should address each other

apart from the vile application, you also basically said I was stupid and you would have thought me more intelligent

sounds like you think calling names and being rude is the way to go after all

No I said your post was vile because you loaded it with personal insults.
I did not imply that you were stupid or say that you were stupid what I said was I expected a more intelligent response from you the implication would be there that you are smarter than the thing that you said.

 

[Melach]

sounds like you just made a thread about big bro, who you claim to love. but with this amount of vitriol its in doubt

dcon is living in ur head rent free.

salvation losers are the most hypocrite of people. claiming to love yet so filled wtih hate that they attack big bro's family and create a thread just for them. i know because i used to be one.

i love big bro he has taught me a lot and is a great guy. i will always defend him

 

[eternally-gratefull]

sounds like you just made a thread about big bro, who you claim to love. but with this amount of vitriol its in doubt

dcon is living in ur head rent free.

salvation losers are the most hypocrite of people. claiming to love yet so filled wtih hate that they attack big bro's family and create a thread just for them. i know because i used to be one.

i love big bro he has taught me a lot and is a great guy. i will always defend him

The op is no longer with us..

Lets let this die..

 

[7seasrekeyed]

No I said your post was vile because you loaded it with personal insults.
I did not imply that you were stupid or say that you were stupid what I said was I expected a more intelligent response from you the implication would be there that you are smarter than the thing that you said.

right up your alley then

I must have been speaking your language

you certainly did imply I was stupid

you do not know me well enough to expect anything from me

oncefallen kindly advised me of the difference between states...you might have done that instead of choosing to mock me...even if you had not known I'm not American, you choose to be rude

but I guess you do what you do

done with what you do

also done with this thread. no need to continue the spirit in which it was written

 

[7seasrekeyed]

The op is no longer with us..

Lets let this die..

I don't think that is so

she limited who could see her profile after a time

when a person has been shown the door, if it does not say banned under the user name, when you click on the username you will get the message that 'this profile is no longer available'

up to her though how she will behave in the future. I would hope some advice would be considered and a different approach will be taken. that would be the best outcome

but like I said

it's all been more than enough

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't think that is so

she limited who could see her profile after a time

when a person has been shown the door, if it does not say banned under the user name, when you click on the username you will get the message that 'this profile is no longer available'

up to her though how she will behave in the future

but like I said

it's all been more than enough

Sent me an IM please

 

[Locoponydirtman]

right up your alley then

I must have been speaking your language

you certainly did imply I was stupid

you do not know me well enough to expect anything from me

oncefallen kindly advised me of the difference between states...you might have done that instead of choosing to mock me...even if you had not known I'm not American, you choose to be rude

but I guess you do what you do

done with what you do

also done with this thread. no need to continue the spirit in which it was written

Meh, you just don't like anybody that won't take your bullying.

 

[stonesoffire]

Some here are so SELF RIGHTEOUS,they forget how they behave an apoligy then turning right around and doing it over and over is not a sincere apology.....pooor them,the witch is after them. Yet it is they that come to threads I open and start their hauranging. So be it. We will see how they like it back.

Forgive. Then forget. It works. I use it too.

 

[stonesoffire]

The reason behind the defense of the gospel for that is exactly what it is when defending the grace of God alone saves, IS

1. It’s the truth.
2. It makes one strong In The Lord, not fearful
3. It gives rest to the weary heart.
4. It pleases Father
5. It exalts Jesus

Please add if you so desire.

 

[Lanolin]

Well we should all contend for the faith once delivered to the saints.

I wouldnt let what others say bother me. If theres something thats bothering you about another person on the forum just report it to the mods dont make a whole thread about it and then goad them. Then place on ignore so you dont see their posts. You can always unigonre later after the issue seems to have past.

You dont need to respond to each and every post. Unfortunalty some people can be just rude, dont read posts properly, or want to assume something about the other person that isnt true. If that happens, yes its bad but...we need to be slow to anger and quick to forgive.

 

[Mii]

When BDF gets to be too much the best thing to do is take a break.

I get it, you are lashing out.... BDF is a tough place and not for the faint of heart, everyone is heavily invested in their own beliefs and this is to be expected.

OSAS aside, there is obviously too much emotion at play... those emotions will not subside or heal unless you distance yourself from the cause.

Just my experience .. take it or leave it but I do think it will help.

YO! I agree with taking a break from BDF for sure. For me it's sometimes like politics at times...like I'll tune in when it's something super important but there are times I'm like "yeahhh no."

Plenty of times I'll make a rather long post and just don't post it because I'm not sure if it should be said. There's always areas where I need to expound and each person views things through a different lens and I want to find agreement with others and not have to write a book. I grant that there are certain areas that I am deficient in certainly. I don't think I am in critical error about most issues...but I do reassess obsessively at times.



@Leastamongmany (for some reason I can't hyperlink your name). I don't really know you that well, I fully agree that NO ONE knows you fully except the Lord. That does not mean we can't see him within you...and guess what? We all have growing and maturing to do.

I think many members would do well to remember that none of us will ever "arrive" and our "sanctification process" won't cease.
I think most do, it's just that it may not be always on the forefront.

For me it is because it stares me in the face every day that I can't quite get a grip on my own spirit. Possibly because I don't have sovereignty over myself but rather am owned and am a vessel. A lot of people would find these things obvious scripturally but "practically" walking it out. Figuring out where YOU end and HE begins gets rather confusing as we have some sense of agency in our walks.

Thus your ability to post what you opened with even though you knew it to be un-biblical and contrary to the word.

Do I condemn you for it? No. Do I think the Lord does? No.

Would I encourage you to run to him with your frustrations in the future or privately seek someone out about it? Yes.

I've done that with stuff online here. Mostly because of the public/permanent nature of posts.


That's between you and the Lord though.


Look at how the disciples acted with Jesus walking alongside them...it is error but we all have done it. If not out loud and publicly then in our own thought life. Just thinking a vile thought about someone or being vulgar in our own minds...we all wrestle with the flesh, sometimes it's a bit easier to pinpoint in people for a myriad of reasons. I would be quite curious if anyone here could claim that they haven't ever called someone a name or thought about doing so (in the flesh ofc).


I've come a long way from when I was younger and super full of myself.

You know when people get in an argument and their flesh comes out later and they say things like "I should have said that..." in regards to a biting comeback or cutting sarcasm?

Well I always did say exactly what I wanted. I took pleasure in it. The Lord rebuked me though, I couldn't stand to see the pain. Even though in the moment I was a tool of the enemy.

I realized how powerful words were and am pretty careful about what I say. Words can be like allowing an open door to evil if used in the flesh, I'm not going to go deep into the concept of what rebellion and pride produce but let us just agree that it is rotten fruit. I don't think it's appropriate to discuss because I don't think any of us here that are believers desire these things as a practice.

It is what proceeds out of a man that defiles...therefore our words should be few.


Somewhat irrelevant aside:

I can't tell you how insurmountable this "few" is for myself personally but I parry that with the fact that we are held accountable for every idle word.

I sometimes feel embarrassed at how long my posts end up being and I've been insulted for it person to person. I take solace in the fact that this only took 4 minutes to say out loud at the cadence I would normally speak. So taking 5 minutes to say something to someone (as well as anyone that chooses to read) doesn't seem to be error. I would of course be open to anyone that feels differently.

I'm pretty sure my 8 hour conversation days are in the past. Mostly.


Anyway, I didn't get a chance to fully know you.



Take a break. Dig into your local body. If you don't have one. Find one...this is NOT a substitute. It's more of an auxiliary resource. I think it "could be" if the right conditions were met (like being homebound, isolated, overseas with no local body in a language that you understand) Probably more and I'm not the Lord so you know...I could be off.

I just know that's something that personally has been brought up to me. You get tired of the net. It only satisfies certain needs and there are things you say here that you would not say in person...so that HAS to be factored in.

Also consider in the future purchasing a membership for private messages (factoring in the internet)...Biblically things must be brought privately first and then to a few others...and then we publicly bring it up.

I've had rather fleshly arguments with people where I thought I was operating correctly and they did also...who was right? No idea to be honest. I think we were both right and both wrong. It left behind a scar to where it's like I can't fully get people and their individual walk (which is frustrating)...sometimes we are connecting so well and then...wham! brick wall.

I am of the opinion currently that it is quite rare to experience something like "seeing eye to eye" on all issues at all times (if not an impossibility due to our own uniqueness) Corporately I think we have unity in Christ, but that we WILL butt heads over minor "tiffs". Some of us have different ways of handling it of course.


Wrapping up (that might have been 6-7 mins ) I legit only came on this thread because I like campfires and was like cool a fire thread yay! So I can say that I was disappointed but also I always appreciate putting my thoughts into words and hopefully there is something to be gleaned.

Romans 8:28. Peace be with you. j

 

[Mii]

Also...does anyone know if @Mii works for another user?

I get a notification but I rarely get a response when I use it for others. For some reason the only replies I get are when quoting.