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cv5

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Would that be Daniel 9: 26 referring also to Luke 21: 20 - 24?
Ezekiel 10 & 11. YHVH departing from the Temple thru the East gate towards the Mount of Olives.

I should have structured the question with greater specificity.......sorry.
 

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Jesus prophesied that certain stones from the temple would be cast down, which ones?
 

Lafftur

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I find these verses interesting

  1. Mark 11:20
    Next morning, as the disciples passed the fig tree he had cursed, they saw that it was withered from the roots!
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  2. Mark 11:21
    Then Peter remembered what Jesus had said to the tree on the previous day and exclaimed, “Look, Teacher! The figtree you cursed has withered!”

It could have been a fig tree, y'all, Jesus came to stop the evil from with in us, first born to know good and evil. To choose beleif to God through Son for us, thanks
I don’t think it was a fig tree because Adam and Eve sewed a covering for themselves with fig leaves…. which is symbolic of righteousness.

Jesus Christ cursed the fig tree because He found no fruit on it, only leaves which was symbolic of the sin of Israel… looking righteous on the outside but dead on the inside… no belief, no humility, no love for God or people.
 

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I don’t think it was a fig tree because Adam and Eve sewed a covering for themselves with fig leaves…. which is symbolic of righteousness.

Jesus Christ cursed the fig tree because He found no fruit on it, only leaves which was symbolic of the sin of Israel… looking righteous on the outside but dead on the inside… no belief, no humility, no love for God or people.
Which still leads to doing away with Sin. Thanks for this input about the leafs, time to leave evil, thank you,
Yes they did cover up with fig Leafs, used Fig leafs, to hide that they knew they were naked. As God said who told you you were naked? As if God did not already know. The humility of God, me seeing to be accountable to me to be honest

So, he did take away sin on that cross for all, done once for all. Wow, thanking Father and Son as Won for us to be new in the risen Life given us.
Thank you for being a part of opening up scripture a little deeper to me
 

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What is the intentional OT reference to Matt 24:29-30?
 

Lafftur

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Jesus prophesied that certain stones from the temple would be cast down, which ones?
All of them, not one stone would be left upon another…


And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!

And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark.13.1,Mark.13.2&version=KJV
 

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I don’t think it was a fig tree because Adam and Eve sewed a covering for themselves with fig leaves…. which is symbolic of righteousness.

Jesus Christ cursed the fig tree because He found no fruit on it, only leaves which was symbolic of the sin of Israel… looking righteous on the outside but dead on the inside… no belief, no humility, no love for God or people.
Covered in fig leaves is a type and symbol of......graveclothes. With attendant mourning sadness etc....
 

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All of them, not one stone would be left upon another…


And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!

And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark.13.1,Mark.13.2&version=KJV
So then not all of them. Only the stones that were resting on other stones would be cast down. The pillars were the stones that were holding all the other stones up. They were not resting or sitting on other stones. They were standing on the rock, the foundation, which is Jesus Christ.
 

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What is the intentional OT reference to Matt 24:29-30?
Well…..let’s see…what does Matthew 24:29-40 say…:unsure:


Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt.24.29,Matt.24.30&version=KJV
 

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Covered in fig leaves is a type and symbol of......graveclothes. With attendant mourning sadness etc....
I don’t see fig leaves as grave clothes…

Out of all the leaves of all the trees in the Garden of Eden, they chose the fig leaves… why?

I don’t think they were looking for grave clothes…. those fig leaves must have been very beautiful…:unsure:

They were very afraid and trying to cover up their nakedness.
 

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What is the intentional OT reference to Matt 24:29-30?

Daniel 7:13
“I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him.
Zechariah 12:10
“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.
Amos 8:9
“And on that day,” declares the Lord God, “I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight.
Joel 3:15
The sun and the moon are darkened, and the stars withdraw their shining.
Isaiah 13:10
For the stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising, and the moon will not shed its light.
Isaiah 24:23
Then the moon will be confounded and the sun ashamed, for the Lord of hosts reigns on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, and his glory will be before his elders.
Joel 2:30-31
“And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the Lordcomes.
Isaiah 34:4
All the host of heaven shall rot away, and the skies roll up like a scroll. All their host shall fall, as leaves fall from the vine, like leaves falling from the fig tree.
Zephaniah 1:14-15
The great day of the Lord is near, near and hastening fast; the sound of the day of the Lord is bitter; the mighty man cries aloud there. A day of wrath is that day, a day of distress and anguish, a day of ruin and devastation, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
Joel 2:10
The earth quakes before them; the heavens tremble. The sun and the moon are darkened, and the stars withdraw their shining.
Amos 5:20
Is not the day of the Lord darkness, and not light, and gloom with no brightness in it?
Daniel 7:11-12
“I looked then because of the sound of the great words that the horn was speaking. And as I looked, the beast was killed, and its body destroyed and given over to be burned with fire. As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was taken away, but their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.
Ezekiel 32:7-8
When I blot you out, I will cover the heavens and make their stars dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give its light. All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over you, and put darkness on your land, declares the Lord God.
Jeremiah 4:23-28
I looked on the earth, and behold, it was without form and void; and to the heavens, and they had no light. I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking, and all the hills moved to and fro. I looked, and behold, there was no man, and all the birds of the air had fled. I looked, and behold, the fruitful land was a desert, and all its cities were laid in ruins before the Lord, before his fierce anger. For thus says the Lord, “The whole land shall be a desolation; yet I will not make a full end.
 

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then mankind rebuilt it and calls this God's Church. Really?
I thought, think God's Church is in truth the Ecclesia, " the called out ones" God in God's resurrection of Son for us, to live in and through us. only if one is willing even as Christ was willing all the way to death for us to take away sin first, before any new life could get given us by God Father of the risen Son, to live in and through us onto all that choose to believe God in the same love and mercy given us on that cross for us all, to believe and stand in it, even if go through troubles also.
Wow, woe is me as in Isaiah 6:1-7
 

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Yes, but that was not the question, the question was what stones are cast down, which ones?
Thanks for putting me back on track
Not one stone left upon another stone, and that happened in AD 70
 

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Thanks for putting me back on track
Not one stone left upon another stone, and that happened in AD 70
Yes, so the pillars are not cast down, only the stones resting on other stones. The pillars are raptured, like Philadelphia, while all the stones depending on others to do all the work will be cast down.
 

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So then not all of them. Only the stones that were resting on other stones would be cast down. The pillars were the stones that were holding all the other stones up. They were not resting or sitting on other stones. They were standing on the rock, the foundation, which is Jesus Christ.
‘this you wrote and I just read, I got the thought of Sampson and Delilah. When he broke down the temple then being blind then. So many amazing cross overs in the between the new and old
I saw the cross over, amazing