Loss of salvation???

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IF YOUR REBORN, SIN WILL NOT ENTER HEAVEN.

it's a life long jurnery.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
The issue wasn't how long before we are in heaven but how we are saved.

Be nice if you stuck to the subject.
 

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It's useless to converse with any and all of those who ignore questions asked of them and ignore the scripture references that they demanded be provided, and still ignored. All the evidence in the world means nothing to those who hold to Gnostic indifference to evidence to the contrary. Wasted typing time, although not always a total loss due to the blessing to other readers, the targets who are of that mindset generally are a waste of time.

MM
I hear what you are saying. I also look at it as sometimes it's like giving a person a shovel, eventually they dig themself into a hole they cannot escape and everyone sees it. :)
 

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I have explained those verses ad nauseam. I asked you to explain how do you get rid of your sin. Once again you fail to explain anything and simply quote scripture.
If you did explain those verse to it was not to me, or I didn't see it.

Mind doing it again please.

I get rid of my sins the same why anyone who want to be saved does.

By being baptized in JESUS name. Acts 2:38, 22:16

Of course we still need the Holy Ghost.

JESUS said in John 3:5 we have to be born or water and of spirit to ENTER.

NOW what do you want to talk about?

How about just Acts 2:38 and 22:16 explain those and we will just speak of them OK.

To me they are very clear, get baptize in JESUS name and JESUS will fill us with the Holy Ghost the promise is for all.
 
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But what you are saying is those who are obident and REPENT, get bapitzed and JESUS filled them with the Holy Ghost know we are save by faith and grace.

They are Hell bound, but those who DON'T DO NOTING but I guess just read the words faith and grace they are going to Heaven???

Strange way of thinking, but you do you.
those are all false accusations against me and everyone here knows it, including you.

you didn't answer any of my questions, do you mind trying again?

fortunately, you just provided a good example:
you just lied, slandering your brother. so you are in sin.
how is that sin going to be removed? is it even possible?
did you just lose your salvation?
do you need to get baptized again?
 

sawdust

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By being baptized in JESUS name. Acts 2:38, 22:16
That is not getting rid of your sin, that is what the Lord does to you in order to fulfill His promise to you as a believer. We are baptized into Him. His name is His person. You cannot baptize yourself into Christ no matter how high you jump. I have explained this many times. If you have not seen it maybe it is because you are not bothering to look. Go back and read, not only my posts, but the posts of others who have told you the same thing over and over again.

To me they are very clear, get baptize in JESUS name and JESUS will fill us with the Holy Ghost the promise is for all.
Then I suggest you look further than just two verses so you can put the whole rationale of God into perspective. Try looking at the one below as well as Acts 11:16 and how the apostles continued in a tradition until Peter woke up. Being baptized with water was for Israel to identify with the coming Messiah John preached. Being baptized with the Holy Spirit is for the Church so that we are made to be in Christ, a supernatural event requiring a supernatural mode. Water cannot place you in Christ. Please start thinking beyond your nose.

Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;

How many baptisms? To which baptism is Paul referring?


Or use it to cover up questions.
You have a real cheek mate. LOL You're the one who keeps refusing to answer questions. You explain nothing and continue to simply throw out the same scripture without understanding. In case you missed it, NAME = PERSON.
 

Ouch

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those are all false accusations against me and everyone here knows it, including you.

you didn't answer any of my questions, do you mind trying again?

fortunately, you just provided a good example:
you just lied, slandering your brother. so you are in sin.
how is that sin going to be removed? is it even possible?
did you just lose your salvation?
do you need to get baptized again?
First just telling a part of the story is VERY DECEIVING!!

I don't lie!!!

You call slander I call facts.

Sins are removed when you get baptized in JESUS name.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

If not possible then we can though HIS WORD in the trash.

No.

No.
 
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From Similar Confusion on another forum:
Is Salvation "SAME AS": "...he shall REWARD(?) every man according to his works. Now these are the words of Jesus (the Son of man), you know the savior of the world."... (bt)​

Biblical Response:

We did notice "What The Scripture" Did Say ( And also "what It Did NOT say"):

Did NOT Say: he will SAVE every man according to his works

But Did SAY: "He Shall REWARD every man according to his works", Thus:

Fits Perfectly with "Christ's Wholesome Words" To Paul about:

1) the { Unfaithful } sinning ( God-Saved ) saint at Corinth:

"To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be
SAVED In The [ Judgment ] Day of The Lord Jesus." (1 Corinthians 5:5 AV)

Corroborated By Plain And Clear Scripture!:

2)
ALL ( faithful And unfaithful ) "members ( God OPERATED On 'at THE Very Moment of faith/belief/trust' ) of The Body Of Christ" At The Bema Judgment Seat Of Christ:


"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive
his own REWARD according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with
God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building... ( ↑↑ ALL the Eternally Saved-By-God "members"! ✓ )

...According to The Grace of God Which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have
laid The Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take heed how he
buildeth Thereupon.

For other foundation can no man lay than That is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.

Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay,
stubble; Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for The Day Shall Declare it,
because it shall be Revealed By fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what
sort it is. If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive
a REWARD.

If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved;
yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)

Conclusion: 'losing' God's Eternal Salvation = Impossible! But:
'losing REWARDS' Is Very Possible!!​

Thus:
another Plain And Clear Scripture Added To the "Saved-By-Grace Through faith [ Only ]
/ NOT of ourselves / NOT of works / NO boasting permitted!" Verses
(8-9):

"For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which​
God hath before ordained that we SHOULD walk in them." (Ephesians 2:10 AV)​
2nd Conclusion: It is Very Dangerous to Change God's Words To "MUST walk in them", eh?

Amen.

Grace, Peace, Mercy, And Love!
 
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Sins are removed when you get baptized in JESUS name.
ok,

so then how will your sin of slanderously lying about me with your patently false accusations about what i believe, be removed?

i presume your H2O immersion was quite some time ago - but you are clearly, in front of all of us, in sin today, and still unrepentant.
 
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ok,

so then how will your sin of slanderously lying about me with your patently false accusations about what i believe, be removed?

i presume your H2O immersion was quite some time ago - but you are clearly, in front of all of us, in sin today, and still unrepentant.
this is 100% germaine to the thread topic @Ouch please respond.