So Frank are you of self effort or of God's Spirit born again of God as in God's free gift by Christ's resurrection, hmm just curious
LOVE IS fULFILLING THE LAW OF GOD BUT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU MAY IGNORE GOD'S LAW
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So Frank are you of self effort or of God's Spirit born again of God as in God's free gift by Christ's resurrection, hmm just curious
It means the transgression of the law of Love. If I murdered someone, I have transgressed against love. So in that, it was necessary to add a written "thou shall not" to the original covenant of love.
Just as we continue to do today. The law is added upon when different manifestations of breaking the covenant of love shows itself.
Just as we continue to do today. The law is added upon when different manifestations of breaking the covenant of love shows itself.
and as I read, I see that you actually are speaking of the covenant made between God and Abraham by Faith (belief in God) as many first Testament Saints believed. And this was 430 years before the Mosaic covenant was ever in place.
So why was it put in place?
Was it to show us our need for God, that we can't as you just said do it perfectly, and God wants perfection. And Christ exactly this our perfection via the cross, God giving us a gift od new life in God's Spirit where we can serve in Love
For by his death did he do the below verse or not?
Colossians 1:22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—
So while we were yet:
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
So then why all the condemnation, if someone wants to observe the Laws as in the Ten, then fine the purpose of the perfect Law will do its Job and bring us to Christ it did me. And all glory and honor go to God, thank you Jesus.
Romans 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died;
how can human flesh have God's type of Love let us view God's type of Love
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:4-13[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; [SUP]5 [/SUP]does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; [SUP]6 [/SUP]does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; [SUP]7 [/SUP]bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part and we prophesy in part. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
Can any Human flesh accomplish this type of Love? Correct only God can and God's Spirit living in you can?
So why not ask God for the resurrected life in God's Spirit and be shown it through the cross, First by the death becomes our death with Christ to the flesh, so that what? we can be possibly raised in the Spirit and live to God in the Spirit of God
How can God only be worshipped today?
- John 4:23
But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
John 4:22-24 (in Context) John 4 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations - John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
John 4:23-25 (in Context) John 4 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations - John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
John 14:16-18 (in Context) John 14 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations - John 16:13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
............ Are you human flesh my friend, and if so, do you hold within you the love of God? Simple yes or no.
truthfully it all boils down to motive, whether I am doing what I am doing by the Flesh or by God's Spirit as I am led by Holy Spirit of God as Christ as well. This same Holy Spirit is and has been sent to us all here and now on this side of the cross
everything that was before Christ's death was under Law old Covenant which was the Law put in place 430years after the promise to Abraham from God.
It was Christ fulfilling the Laws of Love the greatest of all Law, and at the same time showing all of us that before the cross, that no one could ever make it to heaven unless they had cut off parts that had sinned, and have given up all worldly possessions.
Now this is when the disciples got it and saw no way to make it to Heaven and asked as they had watched that rich man walk away sad.
How is it possible by Law to ever make it into heaven
Read it for yourselves, Matt 19 towards the end of Chapter. Before the cross it was an impossibility to go to Heaven without Faith in God as many of the First Testament Saints pointed to, by Faith and is shown in Hebrews 11 also.
After the cross we in God by God's free gift of God's Spirit taking up residence in us and we grow into the truth that sets us free to Love just as God does
thanks Frank, yet this exactly how I see this from God not from you or any other man. I am not against you doing what you think is right for you by God. So at the same time show me and all who believe in God the same
Romans 14:5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
Romans 14:3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.
1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
2 Corinthians 4:6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
God plainly just loves us all, shown to all by Christ
in love from God to you
I is dead: and cannot just say a yes or no, so the truth can be misused as it is all over this world. using the liberty as an excuse for the flesh to continue in sinful behavior
Romans 6:11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Flesh yes is alive not by old, for that is dead, and the Holy Spirit of God holds me up alive. This is done daily dying to self and being alive to God, because I am forgiven by God through Christ and is my only response of thanking and praising God for doing what God did before I was ever born
Therefore as Paul and is for all who believe we are
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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Church is Sunday for me. Always been, not sure always will be, the Lord leads. One shows a heart of condemnation, not to mention, legalism rears its evil head, when one tells people that the sabbath is Saturday ONLY. I don't tell you that worshipping on a Saturday is wrong, go for it, just don't forsake the assembly, Scripture tells us, and, it just makes good sense to be a part of others who are fellowshipping in Christ.
His Spirit leads us, and, we must be confident in our direction in life, that when it comes to spiritual things, like going to church, tithing, that His Spirit is leading us every step of the way, that we are doing things as He requests, not short-changing God in one thing, and, it's not money, and, it's not going to church, even, it's simply following Him. He leads us all, differently, holy, set apart, sanctified, for His will and good pleasure and for His glory.
homewardgoing says things very well above
His Spirit leads us, and, we must be confident in our direction in life, that when it comes to spiritual things, like going to church, tithing, that His Spirit is leading us every step of the way, that we are doing things as He requests, not short-changing God in one thing, and, it's not money, and, it's not going to church, even, it's simply following Him. He leads us all, differently, holy, set apart, sanctified, for His will and good pleasure and for His glory.
homewardgoing says things very well above
Peace be with you, if love is fulfilling the Law, may i practice eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth? Can i get even with my enemies? Can i love my neighbor and hate my enemy? Can i take weapons like the people of the Old Covenant in justice to stop corruption from spreading and fight and conquer and establish the Kingdom of GOD here on earth for GOD's people? Aren't these love for a good community to remain? Aren't these stated in the Law of GOD as justice to eliminate evil from spreading in the community? i do not want to ignore GOD's Law teacher.
Acts 20:7 And on the first day of the week when we where gathered together to break bread. 1 Corinthians 16:2 On the first day of the week let each one of you put aside and save as he may prosper that no collections be made when I come. These 2 verses give a strong indication the church meet on the first day of the week.
I think you are reporting on scripture in a way that distorts it. In God's eyes that is a very serious wrong. You are using the method of saying that because God says one thing, that blots out everything else that is scripture about the same thing. I am sure the demons are happy to see this done, in their fight for control of us.
You say God has one law, that blots out all other law. That is not so, a false statement. You can say, truthfully, that one law is the basis of all other laws, God says love is the foundation. You are telling the world Jesus said he is the basis of law, and Jesus did not say that. We are told that without Jesus the law means death for us, through Him we may repent and be wiped clean of sin, but Jesus never said He was the law and we must be exact when we report what God says.
You are also stating that following the law physically, by our worship and obedience is wrong. Jesus even followed the rituals used as sort of lead ins for us to follow law in our hearts, and we are told Jesus was without sin.
I think you should go to Christ with the way you have reported and said it was from scripture.
Love suppose to come from the heart, not from the laws. What good can anyone gain from patterning themselves to follow the laws, and which they perform things not out of love, but under the control of someone that is expressing their love instead. If a person doesn't has love in them, they aren't consider to be a son, but a slave because they are under the control of someone. But the only way for us to be re-condition from our old ways into the new is by walking in someone(s) footsteps; which I've mean is that we must go through pain and suffering just to see how it feels to be in a tough situation and then we will be able to feel someone else pain while they are in a tough situation; and if we show concerns for that person and try to assist them as the good samaritan had did to the stranger, that is call Love. But like I said if a person assist another that is in tribulation because they are order to do so, isn't showing love.
Rev 22 11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”
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You are using truths to result in what isn't the truth!
We are to follow the heart to the law. We are to perform out of love. This is truth. The footsteps we are told to walk in is Jesus'. But we are to be careful not to conclude that because our heart is the lead in to law, we are not to do anything in obedience. The law of Moses explains what following love in our heart leads to, how it is expressed. Following our heart leads straight to the law of Moses, if it doesn't then the heart is not of any use to us.
There are far to many verses to put down in this post that Scripturally proves we are not under the laws of the OLD Testament, but i have an article that lists many, yet not all of those verses, Those who Truly desire to understand God's Commandments if we should keep them or not will click HERE to see the Scriptural proof why we do not have too.
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You are right that the law of Moses was replaced but God's Law was never replaced. To abide in Christ is to obey God's Commandments. Our bodies are the temples of Christ and we need to keep it clean. If we strive to follow the Commandments of God, then God's grace will give us the strength and courage to succeed. God wants everybody to be on His side and we can only achieve it by following Him in His ways. We all need to spread the Truth no matter what and those who know the Truth and do not spread it could be in serious trouble. Read 1 Cor 8:10-13.
Yes, you are right. Just look at the number of cases where Jesus healed those that were full of sin and when He forgave their sins, they became healed. Sin is therefore creating sickness in our lives.
Yes, I believe sin does cause sickness. It causes a lot of other problems, too.