Man killed in Utah FBI raid allegedly posted death threats against Biden

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Man killed in Utah FBI raid allegedly posted death threats against Biden


300 lb man who uses a cane and is essentially homebound was a threat to National security and was neutralized by the Feds.

Barak Hussein Obama killing Osama Bin laden has nothing on Joe Biden.
 
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ZNP said:
FBI Fired "Hail Of Bullets" Into Immobile, Non-Threatening Person's Home, Left Body In Street

https://rumble.com/v36km7v-fbi-fire...bile-non-threatening-persons-home-left-b.html

Joe on Morning Joe "Doesn't this tell the supporters of Trump that the FBI is coming for you"
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Watch this video, in the beginning you see what main stream media is saying. You learn nothing about the event, only that it is the fault of Trump supporters, not FBI, and that despite what the right wing crazies will say this does not mean that Biden has weaponized the FBI.

Then you see Bannon and they tell you in great detail who this man was, what the crime was, how the FBI had been alerted by TruthSocial, that they had talked to this man prior to this, followed him for five months, and could have picked him up after church but instead decided on this predawn raid.
 
Now seems like a good time to use the Second Mendment against this tyrannical gubment.
 
Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was ‘Kind Person’ Who Posed No Real Threat, Neighbor Says
Community reels after early-morning FBI raid ends with death of elderly man

By Brent Scher
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Aug 11, 2023 DailyWire.com

https://www.dailywire.com/news/utah...person-who-posed-no-real-threat-neighbor-says

The 75-year-old Utah man who was shot dead by FBI agents on Wednesday morning for making online threats against President Joe Biden and other government officials was a pillar of his local church community and posed no real threat to anyone, a former neighbor and friend told The Daily Wire.

Tim Rich first heard of the incident through a neighborhood Facebook group, where households posted about hearing gunshots, and later that a SWAT team had raided the home of his friend, Craig Robertson. Rich immediately “had an inkling of what the nature” of the raid was — he was Facebook friends with Robertson and saw his political posts, which included one last week in which Robertson said he had to “dust off” his sniper rifle in preparation for Biden’s arrival in Utah for a political fundraiser.

Rich said he mostly ignored Robertson’s political rants. “I just dismissed it — he’s ranting again, voicing his frustrations,” Rich said. “I don’t even know how many friends he had on Facebook; I would imagine not many and that his posts weren’t going to many people.”

Robertson’s post about shooting Biden referenced his M24 sniper rifle. Other subjects of his Facebook threats included Vice President Kamala Harris and Attorney General Merrick Garland. A post from September 2022 read “Death to Joe Biden.”

Rich says he was shocked when he learned the interaction ended with the death of his friend, and believes the choice law enforcement made to conduct an early morning raid led to the avoidable result.
 
ZNP said:
So you support sending out a hit squad?
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if i had to serve a warrant on a man who threatened to kill anyone who served a warrant, yes, i would be armed, if that's what you're asking.
 
posthuman said:
if i had to serve a warrant on a man who threatened to kill anyone who served a warrant, yes, i would be armed, if that's what you're asking.
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This man never killed anyone, had not been arrested previously, they had already visited his home and talked to him so they knew very well he was 70, 300 lbs and virtually homebound. They also observed him returning from church and could have arrested him then if they wished.

What I am asking you is based on your response do you agree with the FBI going to this man's house in a predawn raid, shooting him, dragging him out into the street and letting him bleed out and then leaving him there.
 
ZNP said:
This man never killed anyone, had not been arrested previously, they had already visited his home and talked to him so they knew very well he was 70, 300 lbs and virtually homebound. They also observed him returning from church and could have arrested him then if they wished.

What I am asking you is based on your response do you agree with the FBI going to this man's house in a predawn raid, shooting him, dragging him out into the street and letting him bleed out and then leaving him there.
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Eli's response is no less sinful than the rhetoric this man had been putting on the internet.

those things have consequences.
 
A violent man enticeth his neighbour,
and leadeth him into the way that is not good.
(Proverbs 16:29)
 
Death and life are in the power of the tongue:
and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
(Proverbs 18:21)
 
He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life:
but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction.
(Proverbs 13:3)
 
i do not support talking about overthrowing the government and threatening to shoot its representatives.

those things are evil, and worthy of condemnation. such speech is both immoral and illegal, and it will be righteously judged.

to me, the example here is that this secular, right-wing, seditious, violent rhetoric that has become so popular since 2008 is wicked and that as Christians we ought to have no part of it, much less celebrate it.

if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
(Romans 13:4)

i am fully aware of the unpopularity of my position.
 
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do you disagree his heart was clearly full of murderous thoughts?

is it just that those who live by the sword, die by it?
 
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we are a Christian forum, not an RNC mouthpiece, and not an instrument for treasonous threats against our country.
 
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posthuman said:
i do not support talking about overthrowing the government and threatening to shoot its representatives.

those things are evil, and worthy of condemnation. such speech is both immoral and illegal, and it will be righteously judged.

to me, the example here is that this secular, right-wing, seditious, violent rhetoric that has become so popular since 2008 is wicked and that as Christians we ought to have no part of it, much less celebrate it.

if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
(Romans 13:4)

i am fully aware of the unpopularity of my position.
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While I agree with much of what you say, the fact remains that when a government usurps the authority of the people and no longer upholds the laws they swore to uphold, the constitution recognizes the rights of the people to throw off that government. This is the way our country began.
You may not believe we have reached such a point, but many believe we passed that threshold long ago.I certainly believe we have.
 
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Cameron143 said:
While I agree with much of what you say, the fact remains that when a government usurps the authority of the people and no longer upholds the laws they swore to uphold, the constitution recognizes the rights of the people to throw off that government. This is the way our country began.
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No, the constitution condemns treason.

You are thinking of the declaration of independence.
 
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