Man-made traditions/Man is represented by the number 6

[Grace911]

Jesus accused the Jews (Pharisees and Saducees) that their man-made traditions was making void the word of God.

Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

How different is the Gentile/Christian from those Jews (even so today in Judaism) have added and taken away from the commandment of God?

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mathewt 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Matthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

While "sitting in Moses' seat" the reader, Pharisees did not add or diminish from the reading. When the scroll was taken away, the reader and anyone else in the audience were allowed to comment (midrash).

G3862
παράδοσις = 666 =
π=80; α=1; ρ=100; ά=1; δ=4; ο=70; σ=200; ι=10; ς=200
paradosis
par-ad’-os-is
From G3860; transmission, that is, (concretely) a precept; specifically the Jewish traditionary law: - ordinance, tradition.

​

LXX related word(s):​

1. H612 esur - in bondage
2. H5414 natan ni. - add, apply, appoint, ascribe, assign, etc.

Matthew 15:2,3,6;
Mark 7:3,5,8,9,13;
1 Corinthians 11:2;
Galatians 1:14;
Colossians 2:8;
2 Thessalonians 2:15; 3:6.

How many traditions does the Christian faith have that veers from the "scroll" (ie. scriptures)? Can you keep traditions that make void the word of God? The Gentiles were not required to learn everything in one day being read from Moses' seat, but would learn as they returned every Sabbath.

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act 13:45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.

Again, I ask, what man-made traditions we Christians have that makes void the word of God? Remember, if it is man-made tradition, it is paradosis/666.

1Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

 

[Nehemiah6]

How many traditions does the Christian faith have that veers from the "scroll" (ie. scriptures)?

Not "the Christian faith" but Christendom (all the denominations). There are many traditions in all the denominations and chances are they will remain. At the same time, Christians must examine everything in the light of Scripture.

 

[Karlon]

Jesus accused the Jews (Pharisees and Saducees) that their man-made traditions was making void the word of God.

Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

How different is the Gentile/Christian from those Jews (even so today in Judaism) have added and taken away from the commandment of God?

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mathewt 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Matthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

While "sitting in Moses' seat" the reader, Pharisees did not add or diminish from the reading. When the scroll was taken away, the reader and anyone else in the audience were allowed to comment (midrash).

G3862
παράδοσις = 666 =
π=80; α=1; ρ=100; ά=1; δ=4; ο=70; σ=200; ι=10; ς=200
paradosis
par-ad’-os-is
From G3860; transmission, that is, (concretely) a precept; specifically the Jewish traditionary law: - ordinance, tradition.

​

LXX related word(s):​

1. H612 esur - in bondage
2. H5414 natan ni. - add, apply, appoint, ascribe, assign, etc.

Matthew 15:2,3,6;
Mark 7:3,5,8,9,13;
1 Corinthians 11:2;
Galatians 1:14;
Colossians 2:8;
2 Thessalonians 2:15; 3:6.

How many traditions does the Christian faith have that veers from the "scroll" (ie. scriptures)? Can you keep traditions that make void the word of God? The Gentiles were not required to learn everything in one day being read from Moses' seat, but would learn as they returned every Sabbath.

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act 13:45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.

Again, I ask, what man-made traditions we Christians have that makes void the word of God? Remember, if it is man-made tradition, it is paradosis/666.

1Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

you said, "man made traditions Christians have". i have never heard of a man made tradition a Christian has. if a Christian has 1, he's not a Christian. Read 2nd Thessalonians 3:16,17, & Proverbs 30:6.

 

[Grace911]

you said, "man made traditions Christians have". i have never heard of a man made tradition a Christian has. if a Christian has 1, he's not a Christian. Read 2nd Thessalonians 3:16,17, & Proverbs 30:6.

I believe Christmas and Easter are traditions that are man-made. With Easter we get the silliness of rabbit laying chocolate eggs, easter egg dying, easter egg hunting and sunrise services. Easter is a man-made tradition that replaces The Spring Feasts of the LORD, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Weeks, Wave sheath day, counting to Pentecost. When you take all of these events out of your service and observance, you are left with diminishing the Word and are not keeping the commandments of the LORD your God.
Deu_4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deu_12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Because Jesus kept the Feasts of the LORD, are we not suppose to walk as He walked?

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Jesus did not take away the Old Testament nor did He create a new religion called Christian. Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, but many have been taught in error that God of the Old Testament and Jesus are two separate entities. And that God of the Old Testament and His commandments are different from Jesus and His commandments.

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Deu_6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Mat_22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mar_12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Luk_10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Much of these scriptures were not taught in the Protestant church I grew up in. I prayed to understand many of these scriptures, old and new testament, so that I would know truth. I did leave the Christian religion and now have taken a walk in understanding the old and new better. Have I reached full understanding? No way. So many layers to uncover but this I do know: Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: AND Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

 

[Karlon]

christmas & easter do not make void the word of God! nothing man says, thinks or does makes void the word Of God. impossible.

 

[hornetguy]

Sounds as if Judaism might be more your "cup of tea" ....

All the un-keepable laws and rules ought to be right in your wheelhouse.

 

[hornetguy]

Jesus did not take away the Old Testament nor did He create a new religion called Christian.

Wrong. That is almost exactly what he did. He fulfilled the old law, and gave us the new law... the law of freedom in Christ, the son of God....

 

[Blade]

Well looking at this still through the eyes of man.. Paul or the sweet holy Spirit talked about this. Yes the OT is not old not forgotten yet Christ did come died rose and its written "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Many pick and choose verses and make His word say what they want. Anyone today that does not believe in Yeshua/Jesus Christ will never enter heaven. So when a Jewish person finds Christ they are called Christian aka Christ like.

Yes many believer followers of Christ also called Christians celebrate His birth and when He rose. Since its not written then duh it must mean no one ever celebrated it huh.. not true. What do I care if one if His Children want to celebrate His birth His reresection or not? If someone does not want to then don't. We all can push our personal view on to others because duh we know we found the truth right?

We do understand that Matt-John was when Christ walked this earth and they all were still living by the law the 613? Something happened after He rose and He reveled it to Paul for it had been hidden all that time. Its like reading I think in Mark where Christ said if you don't understand this parable you won't understand any. Yeah think about that. There was no NT at that time so what was He talking about that seed? Him.. Yet so many treat it as if He was talking about the NT.

A Muslim in hospital not US or UK lol. Was asking if God was real and this man in white with holes in His hands shows up at the front of his bed and the Muslim asked who are you? He said I am the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and the God of the Christians.

It is odd you never touched the Jewish man made traditions. Ask to see people through His eyes. Its not what they are not doing He looks at what you me are doing for Him...oh He LOVES THAT! He is not the one always accusing us before the Father.. He is always standing up for us.. He already died for the sin of this world... sorry getting lost

 

[Grace911]

Man-made traditions exist in Judaism. For example, Purim and Channuka. The lighting of two candles at the beginning of Shabbat are also man-made traditions.

This is what has been revealed to me in the Old Testament is that the LORD/YHWY divorced the House of Israel. In Deuteronomy 24:1-4 are the divorce laws. God cannot and will not violate one of His own laws. So how is it that God planned on remarrying the House of Israel and when will that remarriage occur? Jeremiah 3, Jeremiah is confused on how God could state that He would beg and plead with the harlot wife/the ten tribes,. Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.

Laws Concerning Divorce
Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Deu 24:3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

Paul was given the answer to this great mystery. We read in Romans 7

Released from the Law

Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Rom 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

For this reason, I understand that adding and diminishing from the scriptures (specifically the first five books of the Bible) is why the House of Israel/Gentile Christians must return to the LORD through Jesus. Jesus is the God of the Old Testament and in order to remarry the House of Israel whom He divorced, He must die AND resurrect. Then the adulterous harlot wife is released from the law of divorce of not returning to her first husband and now she/we can return to our first husband/covenant.

 

[Grace911]

Again, what is the New Covenant verses the Old Covenant?

The New Covenant
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them (THE PEOPLE, NOT THE COVENANT), he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Rev_18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

This is the watchman's cry here in the Last Days. Come out of your whoredom's and come back to love your maker/husband/covenant the way He asks to be loved.

Dan_9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;
Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn_5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn_5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman (covenant keeper), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Christians refuse to keep the commandments of God
Jews refuse Jesus Christ
but the House of Israel has been waking up and realizing

Rev_12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
Jer 16:20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? (ie Christmas tree)
Jer 16:21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.

Amo 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:

Are you believing the lie that all the earth's woes are climate change and the people's fault? No!! It is YHWH/the LORD who is angry and causes all these end times calamities.

Isaiah_45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

The Great Day of the Lord
Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

What is wickedness? What is unrighteousness? What is iniquity? What is sin?

1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Jesus told a parable of Laborers in the Vineyard
Mat 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.
Mat 20:2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
Mat 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
Mat 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
Mat 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
Mat 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
Mat 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.
Mat 20:8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
Mat 20:9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
Mat 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
Mat 20:11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,
Mat 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
Mat 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
Mat 20:14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
Mat 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

We will all get the same wages, which is LIFE ETERNAL. Jesus/the LORD God saved us, shed His blood for us, so that we can return to our first husband. The end of this 120th jubilee will be 2044. Not much daylight is left before the end of the work day. Come now.

The Gospel/Good News is that the 12 tribes that were once split will once again be reunited under King Jesus/Yeshua/Salvation.

 

[Blik]

God has many attributes, including that God is perfect. This perfect God breathed the OT and all the laws it tell us of. Christ said he did not change them: Matt. 5:17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the law------. The rest of that fifth chapter of Matthew teof the difference in that same law the Father gave between the ways of the OT and those laws when Christ brought the spirit of God to man.

When Moses brought the Judism laws to man, it brought justice into the world. Gentile nations had prostitues to celebrate their idols, they did not relate a punishment to a crime but would cut off a hand for stealing an apple., and on and on. We are to understand the ways of God and praise Him, not tell how wrong God was to give the many laws.

Moses spoke of cutting flesh to teach to look to the spirit of God and to mark man as belonging to God. We are STILL to cut flesh, but spiritually, and not of our body flesh. Man who does not understand this teach that God our Creator is wrong in giving us law. God is perfect, he is not wrong.

 

[Cameron143]

God has many attributes, including that God is perfect. This perfect God breathed the OT and all the laws it tell us of. Christ said he did not change them: Matt. 5:17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the law------. The rest of that fifth chapter of Matthew teof the difference in that same law the Father gave between the ways of the OT and those laws when Christ brought the spirit of God to man.

When Moses brought the Judism laws to man, it brought justice into the world. Gentile nations had prostitues to celebrate their idols, they did not relate a punishment to a crime but would cut off a hand for stealing an apple., and on and on. We are to understand the ways of God and praise Him, not tell how wrong God was to give the many laws.

Moses spoke of cutting flesh to teach to look to the spirit of God and to mark man as belonging to God. We are STILL to cut flesh, but spiritually, and not of our body flesh. Man who does not understand this teach that God our Creator is wrong in giving us law. God is perfect, he is not wrong.

The law didn't bring justice; it brought the knowledge of sin. Justice is a consequence of righteousness.

 

[glf]

Again, what is the New Covenant verses the Old Covenant?

The New Covenant
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them (THE PEOPLE, NOT THE COVENANT), he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Rev_18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

This is the watchman's cry here in the Last Days. Come out of your whoredom's and come back to love your maker/husband/covenant the way He asks to be loved.

Dan_9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;
Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn_5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn_5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman (covenant keeper), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Christians refuse to keep the commandments of God
Jews refuse Jesus Christ
but the House of Israel has been waking up and realizing

Rev_12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
Jer 16:20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? (ie Christmas tree)
Jer 16:21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.

Amo 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:

Are you believing the lie that all the earth's woes are climate change and the people's fault? No!! It is YHWH/the LORD who is angry and causes all these end times calamities.

Isaiah_45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

The Great Day of the Lord
Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

What is wickedness? What is unrighteousness? What is iniquity? What is sin?

1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Jesus told a parable of Laborers in the Vineyard
Mat 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.
Mat 20:2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
Mat 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
Mat 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
Mat 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
Mat 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
Mat 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.
Mat 20:8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
Mat 20:9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
Mat 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
Mat 20:11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,
Mat 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
Mat 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
Mat 20:14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
Mat 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

We will all get the same wages, which is LIFE ETERNAL. Jesus/the LORD God saved us, shed His blood for us, so that we can return to our first husband. The end of this 120th jubilee will be 2044. Not much daylight is left before the end of the work day. Come now.

The Gospel/Good News is that the 12 tribes that were once split will once again be reunited under King Jesus/Yeshua/Salvation.

Hey Grace 911...
PTL!

Gal 4: 10, 11 KJV "Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labor in vain.

Heb 7: 12 KJV "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."

Rom 8: 2 KJV "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."

Gal 5: 4-6 KJV "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law, ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith."

Titus 1: 15 KJV "Unto the pure all things are pure, but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled."

1 Jn 3: 19-23 KJV "And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart and knoweth all things, Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then we have confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, that we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another as he gave us commandment."

 

[Blik]

The law didn't bring justice; it brought the knowledge of sin. Justice is a consequence of righteousness.

When the Lord asked man to obey "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". it was to help them to not be unjust, as the gentile governments were in those days.

A study of ancient history comparing what gentiles thought of as good government and how the teaching of our God taught government is so very enlightening.

 

[glf]

The OC Old Covenant verses the New Covenant
You mentioned the difference between the NC verses the OC and this is how I see that difference:

The law is a shadow of the true, so that they had even less revelation than we do. Yiikes at that!
The law is holy, good, and spiritual, and deals with man's outward behavior with the minimum level of the performance required to maintain one's righteousness.
In the NC, if we hate our brother, we're murderers. If we lust after another, we've committed adultery in our hearts. We don't use eye for an eye as our standard, but rather forgive 70 x 7. We're to bless those who curse us and pray for those who despitefully use us.
We have God's Holy Spirit indwelling us and they did not. They heard from the Lord in times past in diverse manors, but we hear from Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit who speaketh not of his own, but what he hears that shall he speak and he shall reveal things to come.
The OC sacrifices sufficed for the cleansing of the flesh. How much more shall be blood of Christ who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot, purge our consciences from dead works to serve the living God. If a person is living with their guilt, then it's because their, at best: babes in Christ who are unskillful in the word of righteousness.
In the OC they were to meditate upon the book of the law, day and night, to do all that is contained therein. When we get into the scriptures, the Holy Spirit makes it to be Jesus speaking to us and we learn of him. The Holy Spirit uses the scripture of our devotions to fulfil the promise of the NC, which is to write the Lord's commandments upon the tables of our hearts and minds, here a little, and there a little, renewing our consciences to see sin as the Lord does. The Holy Spirit will also increase our faith with the scriptures, but that was also true of our OC brethren.

 

[Inquisitor]

I believe Christmas and Easter are traditions that are man-made. With Easter we get the silliness of rabbit laying chocolate eggs, easter egg dying, easter egg hunting and sunrise services. Easter is a man-made tradition that replaces The Spring Feasts of the LORD, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Weeks, Wave sheath day, counting to Pentecost. When you take all of these events out of your service and observance, you are left with diminishing the Word and are not keeping the commandments of the LORD your God.
Deu_4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deu_12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Because Jesus kept the Feasts of the LORD, are we not suppose to walk as He walked?

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Jesus did not take away the Old Testament nor did He create a new religion called Christian. Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, but many have been taught in error that God of the Old Testament and Jesus are two separate entities. And that God of the Old Testament and His commandments are different from Jesus and His commandments.

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Deu_6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Mat_22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mar_12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Luk_10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Much of these scriptures were not taught in the Protestant church I grew up in. I prayed to understand many of these scriptures, old and new testament, so that I would know truth. I did leave the Christian religion and now have taken a walk in understanding the old and new better. Have I reached full understanding? No way. So many layers to uncover but this I do know: Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: AND Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The main difference between the Old Testament law and the New Testament commandments. Are understood under the umbrella of the the different covenants that God established.

Luke 22:20
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood."

See, a new covenant.

 

[Cameron143]

When the Lord asked man to obey "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". it was to help them to not be unjust, as the gentile governments were in those days.

A study of ancient history comparing what gentiles thought of as good government and how the teaching of our God taught government is so very enlightening.

An eye for an eye was a limiting law. Because man is prone to respond with greater offense than the one received, God had to limit their response.
If they would have been prone to forgive no law would be necessary.
The perfect law isn't the law of Moses which brings death but the law of love which brings life.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The law didn't bring justice; it brought the knowledge of sin. Justice is a consequence of righteousness.

How about the Law bringing BOTH justice and the knowledge of sin?

As you go through the Law of Moses you find that God's justice is in every aspect of the Law. So justice is a consequence of the righteousness of God. At the same time the entire system of the Levitical priesthood and the animals sacrifices brought both the knowledge of sin as well as the remedy for sins under the Old Covenant.

What the Law could not do was to justify the sinner. Only through the perfect finished work of Christ could sinners be justified by grace through faith. So all those sacrifices pointed to the ultimate sacrifice of Christ -- the Lamb of God.

 

[Cameron143]

How about the Law bringing BOTH justice and the knowledge of sin?

As you go through the Law of Moses you find that God's justice is in every aspect of the Law. So justice is a consequence of the righteousness of God. At the same time the entire system of the Levitical priesthood and the animals sacrifices brought both the knowledge of sin as well as the remedy for sins under the Old Covenant.

What the Law could not do was to justify the sinner. Only through the perfect finished work of Christ could sinners be justified by grace through faith. So all those sacrifices pointed to the ultimate sacrifice of Christ -- the Lamb of God.

I agree with what you say only add that the law only defined justice. The law was given to those who could not of themselves perform it. So while in theory the law was just, in practice it rarely was the outcome.

In God's exercise of the law, justice is not desired, mercy is. So in this regard, yes the law brought perfect justice but it wrought destruction. As I read the post I responded to, I got the sense that the poster was considering justice from a human perspective.

 

[Nehemiah6]

So while in theory the law was just, in practice it rarely was the outcome.

How do you know this for a fact?