Many are called but few are chosen

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ForestGreenCook said:
What would be your interpretation of Dan 4:35? And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing, and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
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i would say you are USING the TEXTUS RECEPTUS which has ADDED over 251 extra Verses and over 2,000 words that ORIGINALLY DID NOT BELONG IN THE BIBLE!

the TANAKH Daniel Chapter 4 ends at Verse 34!

the TANAKH existed 4,800 years before the 1516 Textus Receptus was ever created!
 
The_Watchers_2017 said:
you seriously need help!

What does 2 Peter 3:9 mean? - BibleRef.com
https://www.bibleref.com › 2 Peter › Chapter 3

Here, Peter shows us God's heart for the people He has created: He wants them all to be saved, but He will not force them all to be saved.

What does 2 Peter chapter 3 mean? - BibleRef.com
https://www.bibleref.com › 2 Peter

He longs for as many people as possible to come to repentance and to place their trust in Christ. The additional time is an opportunity for more to be saved.

US-WARD = ALL PEOPLE, NOT JUST SAVED ....LIKE I ALREADY TOLD YOU!
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Scripture proves scripture, and should be our only source in gleaning the truths contained in the scriptures, along with the revelation of the Holy Spirit within us. Your mistake is consulting other men's interpretations.
 
ForestGreenCook said:
Scripture proves scripture, and should be our only source in gleaning the truths contained in the scriptures, along with the revelation of the Holy Spirit within us. Your mistake is consulting other men's interpretations.
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just pointing out the consensus how you think is INCORRECT to the majority of Believers!
 
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ForestGreenCook said:
Scripture proves scripture, and should be our only source in gleaning the truths contained in the scriptures, along with the revelation of the Holy Spirit within us. Your mistake is consulting other men's interpretations.
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your views are not your own, they are Calvin's. how can you condemn someone who uses their own views given by the Holy Spirit and then shows it is backed by Theologians and Scholars and here you are using Calvin for your own views.

you keep pointing the finger but seem more guilty than anyone you're pointing at for doing as you claim is being done.
 
The_Watchers_2017 said:
i would say you are USING the TEXTUS RECEPTUS which has ADDED over 251 extra Verses and over 2,000 words that ORIGINALLY DID NOT BELONG IN THE BIBLE!

the TANAKH Daniel Chapter 4 ends at Verse 34!

the TANAKH existed 4,800 years before the 1516 Textus Receptus was ever created!
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You, evidently, are studying from the wrong version of the bible,

Rev 22:19 - And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life.

Matt 11:25 - At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
 
Bluesproverb said:
Yes, and you were in error.


You don't realize you've just contradicted your own argument.

Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him.

That is divine determinism.
The names of God's Elect- Chosen by name before the creation of the world and written by God into The Lamb's Book of Life, and referred to in other parts of scripture too, is divine predestination of The Elect by name.

Which is evidence your statement,Individual election to salvation is definitely not what the scripture ever states, is in error.
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Psalm 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

It appears that everyone has their name in a "book of the living" or "book of Life", from which their name can be "blotted out".
 
ForestGreenCook said:
You, evidently, are studying from the wrong version of the bible,

Rev 22:19 - And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life.

Matt 11:25 - At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
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my Version was created in 380 AD with the oldest and truest Greek Texts

your Version was created in 1516 AD [[((ELEVEN HUNDRED YEARS LATER))]] and added to my Version, which God Commanded not to.
 
The_Watchers_2017 said:
just pointing out the consensus how you think is INCORRECT to the majority of Believers!
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If I am not mistaken, the same was said to Jesus, in his day.

That is why Christ's visible church on earth are but a few, the remnant, little flock etc.

Most of the born again christians, such as yourself, are trusting in yourselves to get to heaven, by accepting an offering that was never offered to you to accept, but was offered to God, for God to accept.
 
ForestGreenCook said:
If I am not mistaken, the same was said to Jesus, in his day.

That is why Christ's visible church on earth are but a few, the remnant, little flock etc.

Most of the born again christians, such as yourself, are trusting in yourselves to get to heaven, by accepting an offering that was never offered to you to accept, but was offered to God, for God to accept.
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your God is Calvin, so I am not worried about your condemnation for serving Jesus Christ!
 
Shepherd said:
Psalm 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

It appears that everyone has their name in a "book of the living" or "book of Life", from which their name can be "blotted out".
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Revelation of John. Containing the Revelations delivered unto him by Jesus Christ .
Revelation 20
14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. 15And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

https://biblehub.com/bsb/revelation/20.htm


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The KJV reads like this"

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

When you die lost, your name is "blotted out" Just like Revelation 3: 5 and Psalm 69:28 refers to. THEN later, at the final judgement when the "books are opened" i't's found that your name aint there no more. A "name" has to first be there before it can be "blotted out"
 
Shepherd said:
The KJV reads like this"

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

When you die lost, your name is "blotted out" Just like Revelation 3: 5 and Psalm 69:28 refers to. THEN later, at the final judgement when the "books are opened" i't's found that your name aint there no more. A "name" has to first be there before it can be "blotted out"
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OK.
Have a good day.😊
 
The_Watchers_2017 said:
my Version was created in 380 AD with the oldest and truest Greek Texts

your Version was created in 1516 AD [[((ELEVEN HUNDRED YEARS LATER))]] and added to my Version, which God Commanded not to.
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Sounds like your version must have been man hohoring, instead of God honoring.
 
ForestGreenCook said:
Sounds like your version must have been man hohoring, instead of God honoring.
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They don't name the version. 😉 And they don't speak Koine Greek.

They also misrepresented scripture again.

John in writing Revelation warned we are not to add or take away from that book of Revelation he was writing. He was not referring to the entire Bible, with old and new testaments, that did not exist at that time.

Good luck in your continued patience and pursuit.
 
Inquisitor said:
As I said before, Romans is all about why Israel failed.

The two "alls" in verse 26 apply to all mankind. All mankind is disobedient.

Here is another set of verses from Romans that explain that election, may not be a permanent condition.

Romans 11:20-22
Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. See then the kindness and severity of God: to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; for otherwise you too will be cut off.
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There is only one all in Rom 11:26

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
 
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When you die lost, your name is "blotted out" Just like Revelation 3: 5 and Psalm 69:28 refers to. THEN later, at the final judgement when the "books are opened" i't's found that your name aint there no more. A "name" has to first be there before it can be "blotted out"
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Fables, no ones name is blotted out of the Lambs book of life.
 
brightfame52 said:
There is only one all in Rom 11:26

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
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Good point.

Two occurrences just a few verses later.

Romans 11:32
For God has shut up all in disobedience, so that He may show mercy to all.

What do you think Brightframe52.

Are we all disobedient and will Jesus show mercy to all?
 
Inquisitor said:
Good point.

Two occurrences just a few verses later.

Romans 11:32
For God has shut up all in disobedience, so that He may show mercy to all.

What do you think Brightframe52.

Are we all disobedient and will Jesus show mercy to all?
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Galatians 3:22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

Romans 9:15
For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
 
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