Matthew 25:42 and how you vote

[Jackson123]

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"Senator Rick Scott wants to "sunset" Social Security and Medicare" Google it

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And then there’s Republican Sen. Rick Scott of Florida — another state where a handful of retirees reside — who published this odd tweet yesterday, taking aim at President Joe Biden.

“This is the guy that just applauded Dems cutting $280 BILLION from Medicare while on vacation at the beach. [Biden] spent decades trying to CUT Medicare & Social Security. My plan is focused on preserving them.”​

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...in-rcna43342&usg=AOvVaw1PHCVWwcQmbgYqFhrKZAlE

 

[JohnB]

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And then there’s Republican Sen. Rick Scott of Florida — another state where a handful of retirees reside — who published this odd tweet yesterday, taking aim at President Joe Biden.

“This is the guy that just applauded Dems cutting $280 BILLION from Medicare while on vacation at the beach. [Biden] spent decades trying to CUT Medicare & Social Security. My plan is focused on preserving them.”​

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj4q9zQmLb6AhWkLkQIHXBEBOQQFnoECBkQAQ&url=https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/medicare-floridas-rick-scott-picks-fight-cannot-win-rcna43342&usg=AOvVaw1PHCVWwcQmbgYqFhrKZAlE

The American Prosperity Alliance said in an ad that the Senate Democrats’ reconciliation bill "will strip $300 billion dollars from Medicare."
The federal government would see its outlays reduced by about $300 billion as a result of a Medicare drug-price negotiation provision. However, that reduction wouldn’t represent cuts to Medicare beneficiaries.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-senate-bill-wont-strip-300-billion-medicare/

 

[SomeDisciple]

The American Prosperity Alliance said in an ad that the Senate Democrats’ reconciliation bill "will strip $300 billion dollars from Medicare."
The federal government would see its outlays reduced by about $300 billion as a result of a Medicare drug-price negotiation provision. However, that reduction wouldn’t represent cuts to Medicare beneficiaries.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-senate-bill-wont-strip-300-billion-medicare/

I guess it depends on who you view as the beneficiary: those poor drug companies aren't getting as much now, despite his focused efforts to preserve their profits. That's too funny. and not at the same time.

I guess if I'm reading this right, the democrats actually win this one, sadly- if only because of the pitiful effort to spin the story by the other side... I wonder where they want to spend that $300 Billion instead, though.

 

[Jackson123]

I guess it depends on who you view as the beneficiary: those poor drug companies aren't getting as much now, despite his focused efforts to preserve their profits. That's too funny. and not at the same time.

I guess if I'm reading this right, the democrats actually win this one, sadly- if only because of the pitiful effort to spin the story by the other side... I wonder where they want to spend that $300 Billion instead, though.

all the problem solve if we solve this

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[HeIsHere]

Social Security, Medicare, and food stamps are all forms of socialism, which is government-mandated "charity". Although they mimic the care Christians are to show for our fellow believers and, to some degree, for all people, they are not inherently expressions of Christian faith because there is no personal choice whether to participate and little personal accountability for the recipients. If biblical principles were applied to government subsidy programs, there would be a lot fewer people receiving aid... and fewer people trying to get it.

Social programs are not part of a socialist economy, since under socialism the govenment need not provide any social benefits for its people.

 

[Jackson123]

 

[JohnB]

Social programs are not part of a socialist economy, since under socialism the govenment need not provide any social benefits for its people.

Jeremiah, speaking of King Josiah, said, "He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well."

 

[Hazelelponi]

The problem is politicians make cuts to EVERYONE. No mention of biblical principles here. They did not help anyone in need. This is why I have a cooler in my van with drinks to give out to those in need on hot days.

They make cuts because the money simply isn't there... We are more than 20 trillion dollars in debt as a nation.

I'd like to see where the Bible says nations should borrow money and live under the weight of debt that can't be repaid in two lifetimes in order to feign the parts of the Christian faith people most like to tout, while ignoring your own household.

 

[Ted01]

This verse isn't about politics, but each voter is accountable.

Haha, the verse isn't about politics but the thread is, right?

Just so that we're clear... I assume that you mean that we are accountable to God; but for what? Voting in itself? Voting "correctly"? Choosing the Party/King the God supports? Something else altogether?

I'm just not sure...

 

[JohnB]

Haha, the verse isn't about politics but the thread is, right?

Just so that we're clear... I assume that you mean that we are accountable to God; but for what? Voting in itself? Voting "correctly"? Choosing the Party/King the God supports? Something else altogether?

I'm just not sure...

But if you vote for those who deny the poor food, you are siding with them. You will be held accountable.

 

[Ted01]

But if you vote for those who deny the poor food, you are siding with them. You will be held accountable.

And just how does one know who's denying food etc.? Each Bill going through Congress has multiple riders attached, so when someone votes on the Bill, we can't be sure of their reasons for voting Pro or Con... the media rarely inquires about such things.

And the same could be true for the average voter... I might not disagree with the primary Bill, but be against it because one of the riders attached would allow the building of a dam locally and the reservoir would destroy my home?

All in all, voting isn't some clear-cut thing where we actually know who's doing what and for what reasons... do you believe everything the media puts out?

 

[SomeDisciple]

But if you vote for those who deny the poor food, you are siding with them. You will be held accountable.

So if we personally give food to the poor, and our church gives food to the poor; we will still be held accountable, because we aren't doing it through the government?

 

[JohnB]

So if we personally give food to the poor, and our church gives food to the poor; we will still be held accountable, because we aren't doing it through the government?

you will be rewarded for helping the poor.

 

[JohnB]

And just how does one know who's denying food etc.? Each Bill going through Congress has multiple riders attached, so when someone votes on the Bill, we can't be sure of their reasons for voting Pro or Con... the media rarely inquires about such things.

And the same could be true for the average voter... I might not disagree with the primary Bill, but be against it because one of the riders attached would allow the building of a dam locally and the reservoir would destroy my home?

All in all, voting isn't some clear-cut thing where we actually know who's doing what and for what reasons... do you believe everything the media puts out?

Some people vote for politicians who say they will cut benefits to the poor. They don't care what happens to the poor.

 

[Ted01]

Some people vote for politicians who say they will cut benefits to the poor. They don't care what happens to the poor.

Interesting.

But the thrust of my question was, how do you determine that you're making an informed choice for who to vote for.

You did say that we would be held accountable... are we held accountable to merely vote? Or voting according to God's will?
Does God have a favorite political party or type/style of government?

 

[JohnB]

Interesting.

But the thrust of my question was, how do you determine that you're making an informed choice for who to vote for.

You did say that we would be held accountable... are we held accountable to merely vote? Or voting according to God's will?
Does God have a favorite political party or type/style of government?

Would you vote for a politician that said he or she would make cuts to Social Security and Medicare and Food Stamps?

 

[Ted01]

Would you vote for a politician that said he or she would make cuts to Social Security and Medicare and Food Stamps?

I've never had a discussion with a politician who ever said that to me... so no.
I might ask such a theoretical, politician the reasons for behind such a decision.

Regardless, you forgot to respond to my questions.

 

[JohnB]

I've never had a discussion with a politician who ever said that to me... so no.
I might ask such a theoretical, politician the reasons for behind such a decision.

Regardless, you forgot to respond to my questions.

" Would you as a Christian support this?
42 House Republicans vote against extending free school lunches over the summer"

 

[Ted01]

" Would you as a Christian support this?
42 House Republicans vote against extending free school lunches over the summer"

That's another "theoretical" group of people, and situation, isn't it?

For me, there's just not enough data in that statement to discern that it actually happened in real life.
It would be remarkable in its vagueness if it wasn't so commonplace.
Must be from some media outlet, I'd guess?

 

[Cameron143]

" Would you as a Christian support this?
42 House Republicans vote against extending free school lunches over the summer"

A Christian could easily vote this way and still be in favor of supporting the less fortunate. He or she may well accept the responsibility for caring for the poor but do not see it as the government's responsibility to do so.
It is not necessary for the government to support people on a national level. There are plenty of state governments who can decide such issues and traditionally it has been the church that has supported the poor. Because the church has failed to do so many people have turned to the government for help. And government has become their God.