Messiah Christ Anointed Hebrew Greek English

[lrs68]

Where it becomes problematic and somewhat interesting is how a couple verses in the NT are used out of context. Which happens way to often.

Can you explain what to you is out of context?

 

[Revelation1v8]

The man child named by Joseph will later be called the Messiah . That day can when Jesus went out and got baptized with the Holy Spirit & power . I don't know if you twisted something you think I said but I usually I stayed the same my story picture never changed it it just gets larger . so you're saying is a little off for me calling God the Messiah

Here's why you don't understand:

Jesus IS the Redeemer who died for our sins to redeem us.

Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and HIS REDEEMER the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 41:4 - Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord, the first, AND WITH THE LAST; I am HE.

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Zechariah 14:9 - And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, AND HIS NAME ONE.

 

[Tchawk]

Yes that is good, names are very powerful. You don't have to tell me you name, but what does it mean?

How is that possible? "Christ" means "anointed one" and He was called "Jesus Christ from His birth, not His baptism some 30 years later.

Matt 1:21 the angel Gabriel told Mary and Joseph to name hime Jesus. The orgin is Hebrew a name Joshua or YESHUA meaning YESHUA saves. So he is the Messiah

 

[frederickdoc]

But none of that explains how you can say so definitely that Jesus is not the Christ, when the Bible says 6 times (in the verses I quoted before), "Jesus is the Christ." Are you saying that the Bible is mistaken in those six verses?

I do go with what God's word says, and that word has the Saviour referred to as "Jesus Christ" (Jesus the anointed One) from His birth, not from His baptism.

Well nust like any anointing of kings etc the Name is spoken notuce The Angel said child lets stick to scripture .lkie and it was a birthright spoken

 

[Revelation1v8]

Well nust like any anointing of kings etc the Name is spoken notuce The Angel said child lets stick to scripture .lkie and it was a birthright spoken

It wasn't a birthright spoken, Jesus is the Word and IS God. He existed in the beginning with God long before He was born into the world as a human. Maybe you should read John, chapter 1 again.

 

[frederickdoc]

He was called Jesus from his birth.

The gospels (even all the NT) were written AFTER Jesus' crucifixion, death, resurrection and ascension.

Referring to Him as Christ in books that were written later does not mean He was called Christ at any time before He was anointed by the Holy Spirit at His baptism.

Im lost in the mix. . God anoint Jesus As the Christ in the Jordan River . Christ Christ the anointed one fulfills all when the apostles know him as Christ the anointed one Messiah. Because they knew him as the Messiah . So yes yes they would refer to him as the anointed one . But then they would tell rhen Jesus was crucified and still call him the anointed one this is all true. And this is who they were waiting for for many years the Messiah. But now you must know we are waiting for the king he keeps his promise to David's seat for ever. They also knew this they they understood more after the Holy Spirit came and made his abode. When someone like you would ask me am i waiting on the anointed one if I was to speak the truth of the Holy Spirit I would have to say No! Because the anointed one the Messiah the Christ came and did his part and conceited at rest now the anointing is Branched out from the one who has the anointing . So I am waiting on the king ti return he did return but but didn't claim any Earthly thrown free he had to go sit and be seated at his rest that's actually the Sabbath being fulfilled the high priest sits at rest finally. The Bible is not wrong but you have to have an understanding from the Holy Spirit you have to know who you are and who they are meaning the apostles and today's anointed of the Lord we don't have to go through the transition as they of old. But we do have their history to know that Jesus did fulfill all that was written and what isn't fulfilled yet will be fulfilled this is the word of God but we are not to stay in the old even as they were not to stay in the old but the new which we know now it's not rocket science but it's hard to know if you don't have a big picture of all the scripture you just can't pull out a couple scriptures and by knowing him it's one complete word this is what the Holy Spirit shows shares confirms. We wouldn't have the New Testament without the Holy Spirit a good example of one of my favorite books that starts out of the the gospel John John probably had many private conversations with Jesus but yet you can see John step out in the beginning of h gospel calling Jesus the word this is the holy spirit letting him step out and speaking boldly in the beginning was the word I don't think you'll find it written by any other prophet but John knew who he was and what Jesus was leading us to be so yes there are scriptures you can step out in the Holy Spirit as John did because the same exact holy spirit that New Parah RUACH Jesus from death to new Life . You must realize Jesus is the First of his Kind and you must know He needs US As He is, to be with him Forever . Skipping the Holy Spirit is skipping the forever and none of God's words in the book you read can change that! You do know wherever they end up all will still know the word of God
so many have a good start already without the Holy Spirit
it's the word unanointed!