Milk or Meat? What are you getting
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This hit the nail on the head. That is why Paul scolded the Corinthians. Their striving and jealousy proved that they needed the basic foundation laid again. Until they grasped the importance of loving and doing all things from the motivation of love their supposed "spiritual wisdom" that they thought they were operating in above others, was not wisdom from above at all. They were still carnal. worldly, not at all mature spiritually.
And I would say the same goes for anyone who does not get deeply involved in a local fellowship of believers. If they don't have a revelation of the local church and their part in one, they are either not saved yet, or if they are, they are mere babes in need of milk.
Those who think they know the scriptures and have reasons why they don't think they need to fellowship with a local church are actually just babes in need of milk and their wisdom is still carnal, and not mature at all. One of the first things a Christian must learn is the importance of the body of the Christ, the local fellowship and their part in one, serving and operating in the love of the Spirit. That is the foundation. If that is not there none of their ideas about the bible matter a hill of beans.
And I would say the same goes for anyone who does not get deeply involved in a local fellowship of believers. If they don't have a revelation of the local church and their part in one, they are either not saved yet, or if they are, they are mere babes in need of milk.
Those who think they know the scriptures and have reasons why they don't think they need to fellowship with a local church are actually just babes in need of milk and their wisdom is still carnal, and not mature at all. One of the first things a Christian must learn is the importance of the body of the Christ, the local fellowship and their part in one, serving and operating in the love of the Spirit. That is the foundation. If that is not there none of their ideas about the bible matter a hill of beans.
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Come on people lets be real is this what you would have said to Paul or in response to this:
Hebrews 5 KJV
Warning against Drifting Away
11Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
MILK AND SOLID FOOD
Hebrews 5 BSB
11We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain, because you are dull of hearing. 12Although by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to reteach you the basic principles of God’s word.c You need milk, not solid food!
13For everyone who lives on milk is still an infant, inexperienced in the message of righteousness. 14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained their senses to distinguish good from evil.
Warning Against Apostasy
Hebrews 5 ESV
11About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. 12For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, 13for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. 14But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.
1st Corinthians 3 ESV
Divisions in the Church
1But I, brothers,a could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. 2I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, 3for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?5What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. 6I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. 8He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building.
1st Corinthians 3 BSB
God’s Fellow Workers
1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly—as infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for solid food. In fact, you are still not ready, 3for you are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and dissension among you, are you not worldly? Are you not walking in the way of man? 4For when one of you says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men?5What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, as the Lord has assigned to each his role. 6I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8He who plants and he who waters are one in purpose,a and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
1st Corinthians 3 KJV
Paul and Apollos God's Fellow Workers
1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1st Peter 2 KJV
2As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: 3If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
1st Peter 2 BSB
2Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, 3now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
1st Peter 2 ASV
2Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, 3now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
Hebrews 5 KJV
Warning against Drifting Away
11Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
MILK AND SOLID FOOD
Hebrews 5 BSB
11We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain, because you are dull of hearing. 12Although by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to reteach you the basic principles of God’s word.c You need milk, not solid food!
13For everyone who lives on milk is still an infant, inexperienced in the message of righteousness. 14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained their senses to distinguish good from evil.
Warning Against Apostasy
Hebrews 5 ESV
11About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. 12For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, 13for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. 14But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.
1st Corinthians 3 ESV
Divisions in the Church
1But I, brothers,a could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. 2I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, 3for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?5What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. 6I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. 8He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building.
1st Corinthians 3 BSB
God’s Fellow Workers
1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly—as infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for solid food. In fact, you are still not ready, 3for you are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and dissension among you, are you not worldly? Are you not walking in the way of man? 4For when one of you says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men?5What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, as the Lord has assigned to each his role. 6I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8He who plants and he who waters are one in purpose,a and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
1st Corinthians 3 KJV
Paul and Apollos God's Fellow Workers
1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1st Peter 2 KJV
2As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: 3If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
1st Peter 2 BSB
2Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, 3now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
1st Peter 2 ASV
2Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, 3now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
Noah Sends a Raven and a Dove
6And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: 7And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. 8Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; 9But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. 10And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. 12And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
Exiting the Ark
6And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: 7And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. 8Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; 9But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. 10And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. 12And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
Exiting the Ark
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I used to read the bible a lot, but then I got a brain injury and went from having a life-long passion for reading to finding it almost painful and difficult to read. I now find reading unpleasant. This is why I avoid in-depth discussions.
I have a deep assurance of my salvation, though I don't know how much help I am to others regarding scripture. I do what I can.
I have a deep assurance of my salvation, though I don't know how much help I am to others regarding scripture. I do what I can.
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Noah Sends a Raven and a Dove
6And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: 7And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. 8Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; 9But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. 10And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. 12And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
Exiting the Ark
6And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: 7And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. 8Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; 9But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. 10And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. 12And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
Exiting the Ark
After the Salvation Message Here is where you should go next.
3 World Ages and Gods Elect.
The word "Titus" in the Greek means "protected". When you understand the doctrine taught in this book of Titus, you are protected in your mind. Titus was a Greek, meaning he was a Gentile, call by God to help Paul bring His word to the Gentiles. There are several things in this little book that I know will ruffle some feathers but if you take the time to stop and thank, and read you will come to a much deeper understand of Gods word.
Titus was called to purity by Paul. No man no matter who (before you yell except Jesus) is not going to reach that goal. We live in a flesh bod, and we will fall short. We are going to get some training, rules, helps, for Gods elect to come closer to that goal. Paul is encouraging the leaders of the church to keep trying even when they stumble a little here and there.
Verses will be copied from Biblehum.com KJV.
Chapter 1:1Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
If you do not know Paul was struck down, blinded, by God on his way to Damascus to imprison, torture, and kill Christians. God changed him and used him to do mighty things for him and write most of the New Testament. “According to the faith of God's elect” Gods elect that is a term we need to come to understand. Paul did not choose to become a Christian. There are those that God has chosen for cretin jobs at cretin times. That is where this term “God's elect” comes from.
2.In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
In hope “ I would say in a sure hope. “Just me.” This is a hope given to us by God who CAN NOT lie. When did Paul say He gave it to us? Before the world began! Stop and thank about that statement. That was before Genesis 1:2.
Lets stop here and go to 2nd Peter 3 and see just what God had to say through him. 3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Notice what it says here: Scoffers will come, they will be walking after there own lust; Saying He promised He was going to come. Where is HE? They are willing ignorant: willingly unlearned or unskilled in the truth of a matter. What are they ignorant about the first world age where the earth was in the water and out of the water; just as it is today. Then what happened.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Strong's Concordance
erets: earth, land
Original Word: אֶרֶץ
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: erets
Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-rets)
Definition: earth, land common (1), countries (15), countries and their lands (1), country (44), countryside (1), distance* (3), dust (1), earth (655), earth the ground (1), earth's (1), fail* (1), floor (1), ground (119), land (1581), lands (57), lands have their land (2), open (1), other* (2), piece (1), plateau* (1), region (1), territories (1), wild (1), world (3).
Before you start saying all of that happened during Noah's flood lets look at Gods word: Jeremiah 4:22-27
English Standard Version
“For my people are foolish; they know me not; they are stupid children; they have no understanding. They are ‘wise’—in doing evil! But how to do good they know not.”
Berean Study Bible
“For My people are fools; they have not known Me. They are foolish children, without understanding. They are skilled in doing evil, but they know not how to do good.”
King James Bible
For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
English Standard Version
I looked on the earth, and behold, it was without form and void; and to the heavens, and they had no light.
Berean Study Bible
I looked at the earth, and it was formless and void; I looked to the heavens, and they had no light.
King James Bible
I beheld the earth, and, lo,it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
English Standard Version
I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking, and all the hills moved to and fro.
Berean Study Bible
I looked at the mountains, and behold, they were quaking; all the hills were swaying.
King James Bible
I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
English Standard Version
I looked, and behold, there was no man, and all the birds of the air had fled.
Berean Study Bible
I looked, and no man was left; all the birds of the air had fled.
King James Bible
I beheld, and, lo,there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. English Standard Version
I looked, and behold, the fruitful land was a desert, and all its cities were laid in ruins before the LORD, before his fierce anger.
Berean Study Bible
I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert. All its cities were torn down before the LORD, before His fierce anger.
King James BibleI beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD,and by his fierce anger.
English Standard Version
For thus says the LORD, “The whole land shall be a desolation; yet I will not make a full end.
Berean Study Bible
For this is what the LORD says: “The whole land will be desolate, but I will not finish its destruction.
King James Bible
For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.