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Wevcles

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What will be in the millenial kingdom oft the earth?
 

notuptome

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What will be in the millenial kingdom oft the earth?
1000 years of perfect peace on earth. Christ seated on His throne of David in Jerusalem.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

posthuman

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And when the thousand years shall have been completed, Satan will be released out of his prison, and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together unto the war, of whom is the number of them like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the city having been beloved. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.
(Revelation 20:7-9)

is this the same 1,000 years?

why are these people - whose number is like the sand of the sea - willing to go lay siege to Jerusalem with the Eternal Living God seated there, having been seated there for 1,000 years in perfect reign? just to get devoured by fire - knowingly, since it's right here in the book?
same people living during the 1,000 years?
what is it with people??
 

posthuman

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1000 years of perfect peace on earth. Christ seated on His throne of David in Jerusalem.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
If the family of Egypt does not go up or enter, then no rain will fall on them; it will be the plague with which the LORD smites the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths. This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
(Zechariah 14:18-19)

evidently even with Christ enthroned and Satan imprisoned, some people will still reject Him?
 

Deade

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You don't understand the judgment period. All the people that have ever lived will be resurrected:

Rev. 20:5
"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

God is not going to raise them up just to kill them again. Most people don't know how to serve God. If God hasn't given them the Holy Spirit, they are not called in the first life.

The judgment period is when Satan will be loosed (see Rev. 20:3). Most people will reject him, but some people are so set on evil they want no part of God. Some people have turned back in this life after receiving the anointing, maybe through persecution or whatever. They will be raised to damnation and probably will make up some of that army to be destroyed.




 
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And when the thousand years shall have been completed, Satan will be released out of his prison, and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together unto the war, of whom is the number of them like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the city having been beloved. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.
(Revelation 20:7-9)

is this the same 1,000 years?

why are these people - whose number is like the sand of the sea - willing to go lay siege to Jerusalem with the Eternal Living God seated there, having been seated there for 1,000 years in perfect reign? just to get devoured by fire - knowingly, since it's right here in the book?
same people living during the 1,000 years?
what is it with people??
It actually doesn't say it will be perfect. It does seem a whole lot better though.
It says there won't be war, but it does say there will be disputes, which Jesus will settle.
And it says men will live longer than the work of their hands. I take that to mean they will outlive the houses they build, for one. So, life expectancy of hundreds of years.
 

Bladerunner

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And when the thousand years shall have been completed, Satan will be released out of his prison, and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together unto the war, of whom is the number of them like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the city having been beloved. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.
(Revelation 20:7-9)

is this the same 1,000 years?

why are these people - whose number is like the sand of the sea - willing to go lay siege to Jerusalem with the Eternal Living God seated there, having been seated there for 1,000 years in perfect reign? just to get devoured by fire - knowingly, since it's right here in the book?
same people living during the 1,000 years?
what is it with people??
PostHUman, you should know that better than most!....Ever since I have been in this forum, You have been trying to deny anything about GOD.

Man is inherently EVIL. He does not need Satan or any of his Hinchmen to teach man how to kill, adultery, rape, etc.....Satan is chained away to prevent any interference with Man. Mankind can no longer say, 'Satan was within us causing us to do this'. During this time, Man are going to have to OWN his own evil and pay for it outright..

Blade
 
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And when the thousand years shall have been completed, Satan will be released out of his prison, and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together unto the war, of whom is the number of them like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the city having been beloved. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.
(Revelation 20:7-9)

is this the same 1,000 years?

why are these people - whose number is like the sand of the sea - willing to go lay siege to Jerusalem with the Eternal Living God seated there, having been seated there for 1,000 years in perfect reign? just to get devoured by fire - knowingly, since it's right here in the book?
same people living during the 1,000 years?
what is it with people??
The battle of Armageddon is when the beast and the world attacks Jerusalem, and Jesus and the saints come back from heaven, and Jesus defeats the world and saves Israel.

Jesus and the saints will rule over the people that God spared from that war for 1000 years.

Satan is thrown in the bottomless pit, and does not deceive the people, or stir them up, that Jesus and the saints rule over, and there is peace for 1000 years.

At the end of the 1000 years period Satan is loosed from the pit, and deceives the people that the saints rule over, and they go against the saints, and God reigns fire on them, and that is the end of the millennial reign.

The people that the saints rule over still have punishment coming because they took the mark of the beast, and can never be spiritual, but God postponed their punishment until the end of the millennial reign, so Jesus and the saints could rule over the heathen, and at the end of the 1000 years then they will receive their punishment.

They cannot stop the process of going against the saints at the end of the millennial reign, for they took the mark of the beast, and can never be spiritual, and Satan will influence them to where they cannot resist it, like they could not resist going against Jerusalem before the millennial reign started, for they were in strong delusion and they could not snap out of it, for they had pleasure in unrighteousness, which will happen to all people who do not love God when the beast rules the nations.
 

trofimus

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Such complicated constructions just because you read Revelation literally...
 

Ahwatukee

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You don't understand the judgment period. All the people that have ever lived will be resurrected:

Rev. 20:5 "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."
First of all, you left out the first part of the verse which identifies those who belong to the first resurrection. To be clear, those who come to life at the end of the thousand years are the unrighteous dead throughout all of history and do not take part in the first resurrection. Below is the scripture:

"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years."

In the scripture above, those who were beheaded and come to life, i.e. resurrect, are the saints who will have died during the great tribulation period. It is these who belong to the "first resurrection." Those of whom it is said, "The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended" is referring to those unrighteous dead throughout all of history, for they do not belong to the first resurrection. If I was to paraphrase, the scripture would be better understood as follows:

They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. This is the first resurrection. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)

That is how the scripture should read. In the scripture above the "the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended" is a parenthetic pause.

God is not going to raise them up just to kill them again. Most people don't know how to serve God. If God hasn't given them the Holy Spirit, they are not called in the first life.
Revelation 20:11-15 is the resurrection of all the unrighteous dead throughout all of history. Their spirits will come out of Sheol/Hades and will be united with their resurrected bodies and will stand before God. This is the great white throne judgment, which will be the official judicial process for all of those who have died in their sins. That is why the books are opened and they are being judged according to everything written in those books. According to Rev.20:6, those who take part in that resurrection, the second death, which is the lake of fire, has power over them. So, yes, God is raising them to judge them and then only to cast them into the lake of fire, where they will be conscious and aware in those resurrected bodies which cannot be destroyed by the fire, but will endure the punishment of it.

The judgment period is when Satan will be loosed (see Rev. 20:3). Most people will reject him, but some people are so set on evil they want no part of God. Some people have turned back in this life after receiving the anointing, maybe through persecution or whatever. They will be raised to damnation and probably will make up some of that army to be destroyed.
Satan is let out of the Abyss at the end of the thousand years and his gathering of those types of Gog and Magog will take place on this earth. After that, this present heaven and earth will pass away (Rev.20:11) and then the unrighteous dead will be resurrected and will be judged at the great white throne.
 

Adstar

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What will be in the millenial kingdom oft the earth?
The millennial Kingdom will be established on the earth and it will be ruled by the LORD Jesus Christ and His Saints.. The millenial kingdom will begin on the day of the second coming of Jesus..
 

notuptome

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If the family of Egypt does not go up or enter, then no rain will fall on them; it will be the plague with which the LORD smites the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths. This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
(Zechariah 14:18-19)

evidently even with Christ enthroned and Satan imprisoned, some people will still reject Him?
Really amazing isn't it?

How can people live in the millennial kingdom and still choose evil over good? Satan is able to get them to follow him and rebel against Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

yellowcanary

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And when the thousand years shall have been completed, Satan will be released out of his prison, and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together unto the war, of whom is the number of them like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the city having been beloved. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.
(Revelation 20:7-9)

is this the same 1,000 years?

why are these people - whose number is like the sand of the sea - willing to go lay siege to Jerusalem with the Eternal Living God seated there, having been seated there for 1,000 years in perfect reign? just to get devoured by fire - knowingly, since it's right here in the book?
same people living during the 1,000 years?
what is it with people??
Maybe they'll think and say to themselves .... "He's nothing without His chompers" ... just like Yukon Cornelius did when he encountered the abominable snowman ? :geek:
 

NayborBear

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1000 years of perfect peace on earth. Christ seated on His throne of David in Jerusalem.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

According to you, it is better to have a "rod of iron, and not use it, then need it it, and not have it."

"Perfect Peace?" My left foot! Just because "satan" is locked up for a thousand years? In no wise means, nor insinuates, that those who were beguiled, are going to instantly convert? I agree, "some" will convert more readily then "others." Yet, there shall be "some", where "traditions of man" are "gene deep?" Shall not convert so readily! Look what they did to Jesus, when He was on earth before.

If it were as you say? No Rod of Iron would be necessary. Right?
 
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What will be in the millenial kingdom oft the earth?

The things seen today just in the days of Noah .It began over two thousand literal years ago, at the renting of the veil, the time of reformation . The word thousand as it is usually used in parables represents a un- known . He will come on the last day as a thief in the night .

The question is will he find the work of Christ's faith as a labor of His Love working in mankind on earth or worn out religious book that cannot build a faith to please him not seen and techkonwlogy the new god of this world (666) so that people can walk by sight?

Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
 

Yahshua

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What will be in the millenial kingdom oft the earth?
I think this is how it'll be...

It will be hard for those who never believed and hard for those who believed incorrectly. It will be strict and seem oppressive and punishing to those who've become accustomed to today's fallen/selfish/lazy/lavish kingdom, as Christ rules with a rod of iron.

Scripture says all of the curses that fell on Israel will be reversed and fall on the nations who subjugated them, so there will be many - being made "last" - who will resent the saints but they'll be powerless to oppose them, as abominable structures are dismantled and righteous structures are (re)established in their place.

Today's celebrities, government leaders and dignitaries will become servants of today's poor, in that day.

Those who enjoy higher incomes in this kingdom will experience lower incomes, as the poor are made rich, in that day. Excess and waste will be eliminated. Certain industries will become increasingly obsolete (might be how the income shift occurs). Currencies may change or disappear.

Holidays and festivals will be changed. Our time and calendar will be change also. Certain entertainment will be outlawed. The entire way of life for the nations will be uprooted as they learn to humble themselves and live the way the Almighty wants them to live. Everyone will experience the truth (since Satan is bound). Democracy (i.e. rule of the people) will be eradicated and replaced with Theocracy.

It will most likely be a "day" of gloom like the scriptures say the Day of the lord will be.

But during this time, many who are alive will be grafted into Israel and reborn into the new family.

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...But then after the day of the lord; after Christ's reign has been established, an old familiar spirit of rebellion will be loosed to spread among the nations for a time. During this time, the rest of the dead begin to resurrect back to life. One can assume it's the very act of these vessels resurrecting which simultaneously releases Satan from his "prison", since these are the folks he can and has easily deceived in the past; those who haven't lived through the truth during the millennium reign.

Lies and propaganda about the saints will spread ("they're aliens; they're not really human; they're oppressive; this isn't freedom; this is our world, and we have to take it back"), cultivating the seeds planted in the past about alien invasions or revolution.

Resurrected "heroes" and leaders of men will lead the nations to gather their forces together to completely destroy the "evil alien invaders".

Folks will make their final choice.
 

carl11

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They shall be priests of God and of Christ - Therefore Christ is God. And shall reign with him - With Christ, a thousand years.

Where do "they" go after the thousand years ??
 
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They shall be priests of God and of Christ - Therefore Christ is God. And shall reign with him - With Christ, a thousand years.

Where do "they" go after the thousand years ??
Jesus said until heaven and earth pass away there shall in no wise pass a jot or tittle in the law until all is fulfilled.

Jesus has not fulfilled the role of perfect King on earth yet, because He came as a humble servant, which in that day the LORD will be King over all the earth, and there shall be one LORD and His name one.

When Jesus fulfilled the role of King on earth then heaven and earth shall pass away, and they shall not be remembered, nor come to mind, for they are associated with sin and rebellion.

The saints will be at a new heaven and earth, the New Jerusalem, wherein dwells righteousness, and is a place where sin has never been, and sin will never be, and sin and rebellion will never come up again.
 

carl11

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Jesus said until heaven and earth pass away there shall in no wise pass a jot or tittle in the law until all is fulfilled.

Jesus has not fulfilled the role of perfect King on earth yet, because He came as a humble servant, which in that day the LORD will be King over all the earth, and there shall be one LORD and His name one.

When Jesus fulfilled the role of King on earth then heaven and earth shall pass away, and they shall not be remembered, nor come to mind, for they are associated with sin and rebellion.

The saints will be at a new heaven and earth, the New Jerusalem, wherein dwells righteousness, and is a place where sin has never been, and sin will never be, and sin and rebellion will never come up again.
I'm having a hard time following you here in what are you trying to say as it relates to the question I asked as where do those go afterwards who reigned with God.
 
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I'm having a hard time following you here in what are you trying to say as it relates to the question I asked as where do those go afterwards who reigned with God.
This earth and heaven will pass away, and they will go to the new heaven and earth, the New Jerusalem.