Only God knows the heart of a man. All these people running around claiming to be saved on this date and that date, no one knows because these are just claims. And saved from what? Because only God knows the end from the beginning, He alone can tell if someone is saved from the beginning.
MIRACLES:TODAY OR NOT?
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Only God knows the heart of a man. All these people running around claiming to be saved on this date and that date, no one knows because these are just claims. And saved from what? Because only God knows the end from the beginning, He alone can tell if someone is saved from the beginning.
Show me a verse that would make me think all power,the working of the Holy Spirit,and pentecost ceased,especially when i got the baptism in the Holy Spirit with tongues and have seem miracles and the gifts operating through me. As authenticated in the word.
Where do you get this cessation in the word?
Thats not what i am saying.
I am applying your statistics.
The same ones you use.
You see fakes. That means all are fakes.
Your yardstick.
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Miri
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It’s sad when Christians have to debate whether God can and will and does do miracles.
What we are debating is in essence, whether or not God is still on the throne, whether or not God is an awesome or powerless God. Whether or not God sees all and knows all.
If we don’t believe in miracles and the all encompassing power, majesty, love, final word, creator of the universe, conqueror of death, defeater of the consequences of sin, healer, redeemer, provider, saviour, God - then who exactly are we worshipping and believing in!
As for me I’ve seen many many miracles in all forms, as recent as last week!
I’m talking amazing answers to pray, healings, provision that in no way can be described as a coincidence.
What we are debating is in essence, whether or not God is still on the throne, whether or not God is an awesome or powerless God. Whether or not God sees all and knows all.
If we don’t believe in miracles and the all encompassing power, majesty, love, final word, creator of the universe, conqueror of death, defeater of the consequences of sin, healer, redeemer, provider, saviour, God - then who exactly are we worshipping and believing in!
As for me I’ve seen many many miracles in all forms, as recent as last week!
I’m talking amazing answers to pray, healings, provision that in no way can be described as a coincidence.
Not through wonders and signs
2 Thess 2:9The coming of the lawless one will beaccompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and FALSE wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.
Revelation 13
13And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived.
I don't see fakes and use them as a yard stick, i said i read the bible and gain understanding. It is from the bible that great signs from God ceased.
Luke 17:20When asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs. 21Nor will people say, ‘Look, here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst.”
If the kingdom has no observable signs, how come people like you say, "there it is, a healing.." and "look, here it is, evangelism" or "there it goes, a miracle"?
So you believe there is miracle but not only in christianity?
I understand that Lucifer also capable to do miracle. It is in the bible, when Moses turn his rod into serphen the Lucifer agent did the same
Exodus 7
10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the Lord had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
So both God and Lucifer able to do miracle, but do not ask help from Lucifer. Lucifer do miracle to put you in hell
Budhists/Muslims/Hindus/Satanists/Atheists- all see amazing miracles as answers from whatever thing they worship.
So it is not exclusive to you.
Uh,no,when the ac is empowered there will be the mark. Mandatory mark. The other 3 horsemen also arrive with death and famine.
Millions/billions beheaded refusing the mark.
Those verses are way off in the future. Not for our nowcwalk on this earth.
You serious??
You think you got a case aginst heavens power?
Those verses are way off
2 Thess 2:9The coming of the lawless one will beaccompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and FALSE wonder,10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.
Revelation 13
13And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived.
I can assure you, whatever you've been told and are now projecting here is folklore. The war is against principalities and powers and not flesh and blood. Those verses are applicable now, they have been since the 1st century when everything ceased.
2 Thess 2:11For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie,12in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.
Moses' serpent swallowed up pharaohs.
No demon force or satan himself has any power whatsoever against the elect or heaven.
Satan is so weak.
He is in a wheelchair.
The blood of Jesus and the risen savior handily dispatch his lying self EVERYTIME. WE WIN EVERYTIME.
Those end times verses you posted are predicated by "...and power was given unto him..." (The devil)
We have the POWER.
Not satan.
Not devils
They are bluffs and liars.
No power at all.
Well there you have it.
Your false views are spawning the notion that you actually are living in the time of the 4 horsemen.
Totally impossible.
Totally
You can only have power to overcome satan if you have knowledge and understanding. You don't close your eyes and ears and also claim that God is powerful and by extension, you are also powerful.
Dang dude,that is way,way off.
You need to bounce that off the rest of the word.
I wish my words had a little power with you but you are too heavily invested in that notion ...right?
Are you seriously waiting for four real men to ride four real horses and angels flying mid air blowing trumpets?
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7seasrekeyed
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so someone starts a thread wanting to glorify God and the usual cast of naysayers, who have nothing going on in their lives but suspicion and cessationism, come along and jump on it and tell the world they believe in a God they cannot see but they do not believe He does anything at all
nothing. nada. all day long. twiddles his thumbs.
He offers salvation but after that you are basically on your own to pick and choose whatever your dead end mind picks
that God, really is dead as some have said. or maybe never existed. that dead God is the one you have created in your mind and wish to share with absolutely no one at all. he's pretty boring after all
someone is desperate? someone needs help? what do you offer?
words. nothing but words and only the ones you have chosen at that
but the Great I Am that I Am is alive and if anything, closer than ever to those who call upon Him and believe His word
nothing. nada. all day long. twiddles his thumbs.
He offers salvation but after that you are basically on your own to pick and choose whatever your dead end mind picks
that God, really is dead as some have said. or maybe never existed. that dead God is the one you have created in your mind and wish to share with absolutely no one at all. he's pretty boring after all
someone is desperate? someone needs help? what do you offer?
words. nothing but words and only the ones you have chosen at that
but the Great I Am that I Am is alive and if anything, closer than ever to those who call upon Him and believe His word