''Mommy, I wanna be a Wizard.''

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leelee said:
Do you think you are a saint?
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As long as I am in Christ Jesus. Whether I am or am not, would be the better question.

1 Corinthians 1 said:
18For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written,

"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart."

20 Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.26For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards,[b] not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29so that no human being[c] might boast in the presence of God. 30And because of him[d] you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31so that, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord."
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Hebrews 10 said:
1For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

5Consequently, when Christ[a] came into the world, he said,

"Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired,
but a body have you prepared for me;
6in burnt offerings and sin offerings
you have taken no pleasure.
7Then I said, 'Behold, I have come to do your will, O God,
as it is written of me in the scroll of the book.'"
8When he said above, "You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings" (these are offered according to the law), 9then he added, "Behold, I have come to do your will." He does away with the first in order to establish the second. 10And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when Christ[b] had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
15And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying,
16 "This is the covenant that I will make with them
after those days, declares the Lord:
I will put my laws on their hearts,
and write them on their minds,"
17then he adds,

"I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more."18Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.
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The two quoted verses are probably the most explicit. Note: The NIV translates it as "holy/holiness".
 
leelee said:
Originally Halloween was a celebration for the end of summer. It came from the festival Samhain which translates into summers end. It is only later that paganism had anything to do with it. In fact it officially does not, it was only that they had a festival at roughly the same time of year. :)
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You only got half of the meaning. Samhain is actually greek mythology for God of the dead... And on the last day in October it is said that God allows the dead to visit there love ones
 
jandian said:
You only got half of the meaning. Samhain is actually greek mythology for God of the dead... And on the last day in October it is said that God allows the dead to visit there love ones
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Hades was the greek god of the dead.
 
leelee - doubt we're going to convince anyone of the fact that Samhain is just a religious holiday, same as Christmas, Ramadan, Eid, Passover etc. We know it is, and some people just won't educate themselves on other religions.
When I was in 1st year in Uni, my flatmate asked me to read a couple of his Christian books. I did, and they didn't particularly affect me. But he refused to read any of my pagan books because it was 'evil'. That' just one example of where people have made conclusions about religions without educating themselves on it. People don't educate themselves about Christianity, but no-one takes their objections seriously since they can't say they've actually understood any of it.
 
Possum said:
leelee - doubt we're going to convince anyone of the fact that Samhain is just a religious holiday, same as Christmas, Ramadan, Eid, Passover etc. We know it is, and some people just won't educate themselves on other religions.
When I was in 1st year in Uni, my flatmate asked me to read a couple of his Christian books. I did, and they didn't particularly affect me. But he refused to read any of my pagan books because it was 'evil'. That' just one example of where people have made conclusions about religions without educating themselves on it. People don't educate themselves about Christianity, but no-one takes their objections seriously since they can't say they've actually understood any of it.
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I know this, which is the reason I tried to stay out, but they keep getting the facts wrong! If there was reasoned arguments backed up with fact I'd be ok. Still probably wouldn't agree but would accept that a valid point had been made.
 
That question didn't make a lot of sense. Did you mean "does that mean that demonology is a good thing to learn too?" My answer would be to learn some basic facts rather than what the media/churches portray about the subject. I don't know what demonology is so I can't really say anything about it. But people can't say "this is evil Satanism" when they haven't even bothered to learn that pagans don't even believe in a Satan.
 
What is it that pagans DO believe in? I'm guessing it's not Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
 
Just like other religions, they don't believe in Jesus. There are different types of paganism, usually focussing on different 'sets' of gods, such as Greek, Roman, Celtic etc.
The main belief is in many different gods, mostly each having a certain area of importance. There is a big focus on nature and the elements.
I believe 'pagans' in the Bible were different religion rather than what we mean as an actual religion now. I just find that Christians seem to think paganism is evil but take little issue with other religions.
 
Why would I need to do that? I know what I believe, so learning facts about what others believe will only do good, as I will know what I am disagreeing with.
 
leelee said:
Hades was the greek god of the dead.
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Oh my bad.....Nevertheless Samhain is also a god of the dead. the practice is born of the same father of lies.....the celtics were the first persons to practice halloween in homage to the Samhain God of the dead...Look it up...you wouldnt have to look far,,,, that info is everywhere... But feel free to celebrate it if you want t, seems you like

 
As Christians we have a job and that job is to study Gods word so that no one can deceive us.
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, ...... Hosea 4:6
 
I think people just take Harry Potter too seriously. It's fiction. It's meant to be read as fiction. Just like all fantasy novels. And no one is freaking out about Stephen King.
 
jandian said:
Oh my bad.....Nevertheless Samhain is also a god of the dead. the practice is born of the same father of lies.....the celtics were the first persons to practice halloween in homage to the Samhain God of the dead...Look it up...you wouldnt have to look far,,,, that info is everywhere... But feel free to celebrate it if you want t, seems you like
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Well I tried looking it up, and I got this:

"Identifying Samhain as a Celtic Death God is one of the most tenacious errors associated with Halloween.

Almost all stories about the origin of Halloween correctly state that Halloween had its origins among the ancient Celts and is based on their "Feast of Samhain." However, a writer in the 18th century incorrectly stated that Samhain was named after the famous Celtic "God of the Dead." Many religious conservatives who are opposed to Halloween, Druidism, and/or Wicca picked up this belief without checking its accuracy, and accepted it as valid.

No such God ever existed. By the late 1990's many secular sources such as newspapers and television programs had picked up the error and propagated it widely. It is now a nearly universal belief, particularly among conservative Protestants.

Modern-day Samhain is the day when many Wiccans believe that their God dies, later to be reborn. [Wicca is a Neo-pagan, Earth-centered religion.] Thus, Samhain is not a God of death; it is actually began as a yearly observance of the death of a God."
 
jandian said:
Oh my bad.....Nevertheless Samhain is also a god of the dead. the practice is born of the same father of lies.....the celtics were the first persons to practice halloween in homage to the Samhain God of the dead...Look it up...you wouldnt have to look far,,,, that info is everywhere... But feel free to celebrate it if you want t, seems you like
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Samhain isnt and never was a deity.
Halloween is not about celebrating the dead. I don't know where you are getting your info from but it's wrong.
 
Samhain is a festival including the God of the dying sun. Not death, but recognising Winter coming. It's quite well documented that Samhain being a god or god of death is a myth of Judeo-Christian origin.
 
Why does it matter what gods it celebrates? My point is... it's not celebrating the only living God.
 
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