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Without going into the passages - 144 thousand doesn’t sound like a lot to me and that’s from all the tribes - not just Judah were the Jews say they are from and get the name from - we have approx. 15 million so called Jews now so most aren’t going to make the cut - does the figure also include those that have past and the future - looks grim to me

What I showed you above in Zechariah 13:8-9 is just those who will be living at the time of Jesus' return. It does not include every past or future person who turned/turns to Jesus throughout history. The other believers will be resurrected or transformed at the time of Jesus' return in order to reign as kings and priests for God/Jesus during the Millennial Kingdom period.

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All sounds good until you have to bring evidence - do you have any evidence you can provide?

Not manipulated data long after - all this evidence than it comes to - oh but there was destruction of evidence and much unrecorded.



Even if there were 10 million jews in Europe which is very arguable – there was only about ½ million in Germany – much parts of Europe they didn’t get to – so the countries like Poland and France etc… they killed practically every single Jew - really

The evidence listed was used to come up with the numbers. If you want more specifics from the evidence, then do an A.I. search for more specifics regarding that evidence.

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Yes, it is the number that comes under scrutiny.
People are allowed to reject Jesus. But not allowed to question other stuff?

Who is trying to control people? They are happy that Jesus is rejected, as long as their narrative is accepted.

Interesting. Which god do they serve?
 
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People are allowed to reject Jesus. But not allowed to question other stuff?

Who is trying to control people? They are happy that Jesus is rejected, as long as their narrative is accepted.

Interesting. Which god do they serve?

What the Bible shows you is HOW people will accept Jesus during different times and ages, including an age to come. So no, no one is happy that people reject Jesus, nor are some of us happy that some of you reject ALL of His Word and how He says it will happen and when.

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What I showed you above in Zechariah 13:8-9 is just those who will be living at the time of Jesus' return. It does not include every past or future person who turned/turns to Jesus throughout history. The other believers will be resurrected or transformed at the time of Jesus' return in order to reign as kings and priests for God/Jesus during the Millennial Kingdom period.

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so how many of the present Jews will be accepted if they die before Jesus returns?

Noting the despicable things they say about him in the Talmud which was obviously written long after him – even the Atheist Jews believe in these things even though they don’t believe in God – another example Jews are a race not a religion
 
People are allowed to reject Jesus. But not allowed to question other stuff?

Who is trying to control people? They are happy that Jesus is rejected, as long as their narrative is accepted.

Interesting. Which god do they serve?

It is carnal, based on visible ethno-state, would they have faith without it?

They have Christ Jesus wrapped up in their idolatrous worship of a people and will attack all and every Christian who dare presents the truth of scripture.

Beyond belief really.
 
It is carnal, based on visible ethno-state, would they have faith without it?

They have Christ Jesus wrapped up in their idolatrous worship of a people and will attack all and every Christian who dare presents the truth of scripture.

Beyond belief really.
It is called control freak. If you question them, they will yell, bomb, vaccine mandate.... all sorts of evil stuff.
That's the reason they murdered Jesus, and many prophets.
 
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so how many of the present Jews will be accepted if they die before Jesus returns?

Noting the despicable things they say about him in the Talmud which was obviously written long after him – even the Atheist Jews believe in these things even though they don’t believe in God – another example Jews are a race not a religion

Satan the master deceiver at work.

Fighting and arguing over

pre-trib,
post trib,
mid-wrath
where will the anti-christ come from,
when does the great tribulation start and end
who is Mystery Babylon ...
who has right to the land
what will be the mark of the beast
and on and on

and then we have the clear plain words of Jesus ....... "This generation" "When YOU see these things"

Reminds me of..... "Did God really say?" Genesis 1:3
 
so how many of the present Jews will be accepted if they die before Jesus returns?

Noting the despicable things they say about him in the Talmud which was obviously written long after him – even the Atheist Jews believe in these things even though they don’t believe in God – another example Jews are a race not a religion

To answer your question, it depends on when or if God/Jesus chooses to reveal Himself to them so that they have understanding before they die. Trying to keep track of converts in Israel is almost impossible.

In my opinion, Jews are both a race and a religion. We know Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner is both Jewish by heritage and by faith and Trump's daughter, Ivanka, has converted to the faith. I shouldn't have used that as an example, but I couldn't think of any others right off of the top of my head, and it's the reason Trump uses Jared to communicate with Israel so often.

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Satan the master deceiver at work.

Fighting and arguing over

pre-trib,
post trib,
mid-wrath
where will the anti-christ come from,
when does the great tribulation start and end
who is Mystery Babylon ...
who has right to the land
what will be the mark of the beast
and on and on

and then we have the clear plain words of Jesus ....... "This generation" "When YOU see these things"

Reminds me of..... "Did God really say?" Genesis 1:3
Some of my dear jew friends accept Jesus as lord and savior!!!! Hallelujah! We pray and read Bible together! God is awesome!!!
 
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It is carnal, based on visible ethno-state, would they have faith without it?

They have Christ Jesus wrapped up in their idolatrous worship of a people and will attack all and every Christian who dare presents the truth of scripture.

Beyond belief really.

Quite the opposite. No one is worshiping the people of Israel. We've only pointed out to you what God/Jesus said about them. You don't understand this because you don't understand the truth of scripture. It really is beyond belief how obtuse you can be when it comes to following God's Word.

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Satan the master deceiver at work.

Fighting and arguing over

pre-trib,
post trib,
mid-wrath
where will the anti-christ come from,
when does the great tribulation start and end
who is Mystery Babylon ...
who has right to the land
what will be the mark of the beast
and on and on

and then we have the clear plain words of Jesus ....... "This generation" "When YOU see these things"

Reminds me of..... "Did God really say?" Genesis 1:3

The Bible is written to show you how events will happen in EVERY generation and how different generations will witness those different events. You just don't know how to read prophecy in the way it was written.

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Quite the opposite. No one is worshiping the people of Israel. We've only pointed out to you what God/Jesus said about them. You don't understand this because you don't understand the truth of scripture. It really is beyond belief how obtuse you can be when it comes to following God's Word.

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You mean dispensationalism, correct I am not brainwashed by Darby and Scofield system created to serve a political agenda.
 
No, you've been brainwashed by full Preterists instead.

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The words of Christ Jesus cannot be brainwashing, His words are the Way, Truth and Life.
He spoke very clearly to the generation who received His words and instructions.

You have no argument against His clear words except for a lot intellectualizing and casting doubt on them.
Sad really.
 
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The words of Christ Jesus cannot be brainwashing, His words are the Way, Truth and Life.
He spoke very clearly to the generation who received His words and instructions.

You have no argument against His clear words except for a lot intellectualizing and casting doubt on them.
Sad really.


His words are not clear to YOU. We know this because you don't believe in the physical Second Coming of Jesus to earth. YOU are one of the FEW people who doesn't already understand this.

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Truly despicable.

I don’t need a “deep dive”. I personally know people who, my Uncle for one, that freed and viewed the camps.. He could only barely talk about it because of how upset reliving the skeletons, dead and living he saw there.

Another woman I knew as a child that had the numbers tattoo the Nazis gave her.
Infuriating to hear people like you minimize the loss of her family she suffered at the camps.

Those that deny the holocaust have opened themselves up to demonic voices. Hard to believe they have the Holy Spirit.
I agree. You have been lied to, and it's despicable.
 
The words of Christ Jesus cannot be brainwashing, His words are the Way, Truth and Life.
He spoke very clearly to the generation who received His words and instructions.

You have no argument against His clear words except for a lot intellectualizing and casting doubt on them.
Sad really.
A lot of ai cocktail 🍸 from them.
Need to read entire chapter, or book, word by word, verse by verse.
 
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