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Journey_man said:
According to the Apostle Paul, the Jews are no different to the Gentiles. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, that includes everyone who was ever born.

I don't think it fair to condemn a whole ethnic group, just because you don't agree with the politics of it's leadership. It's never a good idea to throw the baby out with the bath water.

There were some ethnic groups I didn't like before I was converted. My Church has members who come from every continent around the world. Now I embrace all of my Chinese, African, European, Indian, South American, former Jews and all the rest as my real brothers and sisters. I don't consider my Roman Catholic family and relatives as my brothers and sisters.

You agree that we are saved by grace and not race, then you will have to accept many Jews who have converted as your brethren as well.
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Very true.
Anyone accept Jesus blood covenant is children of God.
Amen 🙏
 
This might shine a little light on the subject..
If God was through with the jews then why does he leave a remnant? Why not Sodom and Gomorrah them. Or make them a forgotten nation or people's as he did with others?

Exo 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn .

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Kinda makes you look at the story of the prodigal son from a different perspective 🤔 not to take away from any teachings that is offered.
 
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The faith of the Old Testament lives on in Jesus Christ - the Bible is one book - but Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament like some people think - it is more Babylonian Talmud than anything else
 
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from the beginning to the end, same God, YHVH, trinity God, father, son, spirit.
God of Abraham, Noah is same as God of Peter, Paul-> Jesus
 
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Aaron56 said:
I am neither liberal nor progressive. You’ll need to learn a different talking point from your leaders.
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He died for ALL.

Why is that so hard to see? There is no female or male in Christ......Based on salvation and the free gift.

But we still have nations, male and female, nationalities.....
 
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God-fearing said:
This might shine a little light on the subject..
If God was through with the jews then why does he leave a remnant? Why not Sodom and Gomorrah them. Or make them a forgotten nation or people's as he did with others?

Exo 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn .

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Kinda makes you look at the story of the prodigal son from a different perspective 🤔 not to take away from any teachings that is offered.
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The OT Israel was set apart as a remnant leading to what led Jesus to say on the cross "it is finished."

The nation of Israel in the OT was a foreshadowing of the earth as a whole,and within them was a set apart remnant which was the true Israel.
 
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Lifted_by_the_word said:
The OT Israel was set apart as a remnant leading to what led Jesus to say on the cross "it is finished."

The nation of Israel in the OT was a foreshadowing of the earth as a whole,and within them was a set apart remnant which was the true Israel.
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Also the Israel in OT is a vessel of God. Just as Mary is a vessel. But we don't consider mary diety.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Are they at the temple in Jerusalem .. can I go see them there?
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Having visited Israel, the answer is a resounding YES... mainly at the western wall of Temple Mount. Lest you have forgotten, Islam has appropriated the site of the Temple proper with the Rock of the Dome, the holiest site in Islam.
 
Lifted_by_the_word said:
The OT Israel was set apart as a remnant leading to what led Jesus to say on the cross "it is finished."

The nation of Israel in the OT was a foreshadowing of the earth as a whole,and within them was a set apart remnant which was the true Israel.
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The phrase 'it is finished' referred to the Passion of Christ and HIS mission here on earth as a mortal... not to the Nation of Israel or the Jewish faith.
 
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