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I'm new here. I don't like to ruffle feathers either. I was looking into these sorts of things before the internet, back when their were underground book stores and mailing lists. I haven't owned a TV since 1990. I read books and stuff, and I don't trust the media or uncle scam or doctors or academia etc. and that distrust combined with a complete and total trust in God's holy word, and The Word made flesh, has served me well through the years.

Sadly, many do not get God's Holy Word right either anymore nor do they trust the words of Christ Jesus, we can thank the infiltration of dispensationalism over the past 100 years for this downward trend. IMO.
 
Sadly, many do not get God's Holy Word right either anymore nor do they trust the words of Christ Jesus, we can thank the infiltration of dispensationalism over the past 100 years for this downward trend. IMO.
I do try to get it right. But the best way to do that is to live it. Unfortunately, talking about it is much easier. More easy for some than others. We do our best knowing it isn't enough, and love the One who first loved us.

"It's not that Christianity has been tried and found difficult, but that it has been found difficult and left untried."
GK Chesterton

"I believe it is better to tell the truth than a lie. It is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.'
HL Mencken
 
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Sadly, Beekeeper you may not believe me, but this is all part of the plan, they are doing all these things to be hated by all nations and be attacked, to bring their messiah supposedly.

It has been plainly spoken, and there are videos documenting this, along with the writings available if one wants to do the research.

I just wonder what lengths they will go to try to fulfill their eschatology.

Well give them all a big hug from me and let them know that the everlasting land promise to Abraham is for the whole world.

Romans 4:13
For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

The good part is that those who inherit this eternal global promise through the righteousness of faith in Christ will not have to slaughter anybody to possess it.
 
I do try to get it right. But the best way to do that is to live it. Unfortunately, talking about it is much easier. More easy for some than others. We do our best knowing it isn't enough, and love the One who first loved us.

"It's not that Christianity has been tried and found difficult, but that it has been found difficult and left untried."
GK Chesterton

"I believe it is better to tell the truth than a lie. It is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.'
HL Mencken

GK Chesterton ... one of my favourite writers.

The world is sadly devoid of people like him.
 
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Ahh, but you trust the atheist doctors and politicians and news anchors and of course, that little atheistic antichrist country in the Middle East.

What I trust is survivors telling their experiences first hand. What I trust is people who were forced to walk through the camps so people like you wouldn't deny it happened. There are written records. There are survivors and eye witnesses to what happened. Yes, I believe it because it's historical fact. Go to the conspiracy forum if you want to peddle this crap.

At least the moozies are monotheists.

The Muslims took Christianity, Judaism and Catholic belief rolled it together with Muhammeds crazy demonic "visions" and came up with that mess called Islam. Jews are monotheists and so are Christians. The question is why are YOU here pretending to be a Christian??!!
 
The bloody murder of the genocide against Palestinians has been proven beyond doubt.
It is you who is in denial.


And here you come spreading propaganda right on time. You may want to look into those numbers because they are not proven without a doubt. As I posted here before. And you? Are you going to deny the Holocaust too?!
 
I'm not a holocaust denier friend.

You are and we are not friends. Why are you here trolling?

Read one book that presents evidence for the contrary point of view , I can suggest a title if you like, and then get back to me.

I've heard it all before. I don't need to read a book I could quote deniers before they open their mouths.



I've read the supporting evidence for the Holocaust, not all of it of course, it's a pretty well worked over topic to say the least. And I'm not buying it.

I don't care if you buy or you don't. It's historical fact. Take your theories to the conspiracy theory forum.


We have arrived at different conclusions, but I did so after looking at both sides of the evidence.

No, I believe historical facts and you don't.
 
What I trust is survivors telling their experiences first hand. What I trust is people who were forced to walk through the camps so people like you wouldn't deny it happened. There are written records. There are survivors and eye witnesses to what happened. Yes, I believe it because it's historical fact. Go to the conspiracy forum if you want to peddle this crap.



The Muslims took Christianity, Judaism and Catholic belief rolled it together with Muhammeds crazy demonic "visions" and came up with that mess called Islam. Jews are monotheists and so are Christians. The question is why are YOU here pretending to be a Christian??!!
Agree on the islam came from catholic part. They twisted Bible, and are influenced by devil. Mohamed had a seizure before his receiving of whatever message from his master. A sign of devil.

Modern Judaism reject Jesus, so they reject trinity God, YHVH. So they are no good either.

Only Jesus, the way, the life, the truth.
 
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Agree on the islam came from catholic part. They twisted Bible, and are influenced by devil. Mohamed had a seizure before his receiving of whatever message from his master. A sign of devil.

Modern Judaism reject Jesus, so they reject trinity God, YHVH. So they are no good either.

Only Jesus, the way, the life, the truth.

I believe the Jews will accept Christ. We agree that Jesus is the only way, life and truth. I knew we'd find something to agree on and we firmly agree on this point.
 
Some jews will come to Jesus, so as some Muslims.... hallelujah they will be brothers sisters in Christ. God will only look at the cut in their heart, their ethnicity are insignificant.

Whoever believes in Jesus, shall not perish, but have eternal life.
 
I believe the Jews will accept Christ. We agree that Jesus is the only way, life and truth. I knew we'd find something to agree on and we firmly agree on this point.
They already placed their faith in Him, those that would, those who did not stand in the crowd and shout "Crucify Him".
The Apostles were Israelites, as were most of the early converts. Some of them were even Jews. They believed in Him, He fulfilled everything. Do the words "It is finished" ring any bells?
Paul travelled all I over the world teaching in their synagogues, and of course they fought him every step of the way. But a remnant believed.
Those folks over in Israel claiming to be the descendants of Abraham, do they even remotely look middle eastern to you?
Now the folks getting obliterated in Gaza, that's another story, theyve been there since Christ, and some of them are still Christians to this day. Those that survived.
 
They already placed their faith in Him, those that would, those who did not stand in the crowd and shout "Crucify Him".
The Apostles were Israelites, as were most of the early converts. Some of them were even Jews. They believed in Him, He fulfilled everything. Do the words "It is finished" ring any bells?
Paul travelled all I er the world teaching in their synagogues, and of course they fought him every step of the way. But a remnant believed.
Those folks over in Israel claiming to be the descendants of Abraham, do they even remotely look middle eastern to you?
Now the folks getting obliterated in Gaza, that's another story, theyve been there since Christ, and some of them are still Christians to this day. Those that survived.

Sometimes words fall on deaf ears.
 
Really. I've done quite the deep dive into this topic. Have you?
You are entitled to your opinion.
And I won't call you stupid for accepting the narrative you were given.
I will suggest however, that it is incredibly foolish to trust worldly sources, when the world itself is run by the father of lies.
Truly despicable.

I don’t need a “deep dive”. I personally know people who, my Uncle for one, that freed and viewed the camps.. He could only barely talk about it because of how upset reliving the skeletons, dead and living he saw there.

Another woman I knew as a child that had the numbers tattoo the Nazis gave her.
Infuriating to hear people like you minimize the loss of her family she suffered at the camps.

Those that deny the holocaust have opened themselves up to demonic voices. Hard to believe they have the Holy Spirit.
 
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Some jews will come to Jesus, so as some Muslims.... hallelujah they will be brothers sisters in Christ.

Yes, there are Muslims having visions of Jesus and being baptized and saved according to missionaries.

God will only look at the cut in their heart, their ethnicity are insignificant.

Romans 11 tells us a remnant of Jews will be saved. That God will gather them back to their homeland never to be uprooted again. That is not said of any other race in the world.

Whoever believes in Jesus, shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Exactly, we all come through the cross.
 
They already placed their faith in Him, those that would, those who did not stand in the crowd and shout "Crucify Him".
The Apostles were Israelites, as were most of the early converts. Some of them were even Jews. They believed in Him, He fulfilled everything. Do the words "It is finished" ring any bells?Paul travelled all I over the world teaching in their synagogues, and of course they fought him every step of the way. But a remnant believed.

Romans 11, time of the Gentiles is not over.

Those folks over in Israel claiming to be the descendants of Abraham, do they even remotely look middle eastern to you?
Now the folks getting obliterated in Gaza, that's another story, theyve been there since Christ, and some of them are still Christians to this day. Those that survived.
Bible says God will regather them to their homeland never to be uprooted again. There are Jews from all over the world. Those in Gaza are Arabs and they haven't been there longer than the Jews. They want to wipe the Jews off the map, God has another idea.