Mother of Harlots
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Well yes I am looking at current events and lining them up with scripture isn't that how you know that the end is near? I have researched how Israel became in nation for instance just as the scriptures said it would, had I not lined that event up with the scriptures then how would I have known this event was actually prophesied?
I am not unaware of what the antichrist will do and say and how all who appose him will be persecuted and killed and seen as terrorists and I have no doubt he will have power over all tongues and races the difference is I believe he will come from America you believe he will come from Israel.
I am not unaware of what the antichrist will do and say and how all who appose him will be persecuted and killed and seen as terrorists and I have no doubt he will have power over all tongues and races the difference is I believe he will come from America you believe he will come from Israel.
I'm not upset, grieved by all the false doctrine perhaps, but that is to be expected in this day and age. The falling away started long ago, even when the apostles were still around the flood of lies out of the mouth of the Serpent already started flowing. So to say this falling away is yet to come to Jerusalem just shows you also have been overcome by the spirit of this world and the lies of all the many false teachers who would come in the name of the Lord. Believing the lies of the father of lies (Prince of this world) is also how many of the saints would be overcome and fall away from the Truth and the faith.
Daniel 7:21
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Revelation 13:7 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
How are they overcome? 2 Peter 2:20 “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.”
Daniel 7:21
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Revelation 13:7 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
How are they overcome? 2 Peter 2:20 “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.”
K
You are misapplying those scriptures while not taking others into account.
It clearly shows in two places the man of sin invades Jerusalem and makes war with the saints.
It is he that then goes in a defiled the temple, not Jews doing idol worship.
Again Isaiah 21 read it, as it shows where to look for Babylon.
Also look at the areas the original empires encompassed, and then look at the areas in OT facing God's judgment. You will see they are Muslim areas.
Muslim leaders in other countries hate the leaders in Saudi Arabia because they deal with the west with their oil.
The beast leads 10 areas against Babylon and destroys her. Those who mourn this destruction throw dust on their heads, this is only a Muslim custom.
It clearly shows in two places the man of sin invades Jerusalem and makes war with the saints.
It is he that then goes in a defiled the temple, not Jews doing idol worship.
Again Isaiah 21 read it, as it shows where to look for Babylon.
Also look at the areas the original empires encompassed, and then look at the areas in OT facing God's judgment. You will see they are Muslim areas.
Muslim leaders in other countries hate the leaders in Saudi Arabia because they deal with the west with their oil.
The beast leads 10 areas against Babylon and destroys her. Those who mourn this destruction throw dust on their heads, this is only a Muslim custom.
LOL! There is only ONE great city (The city, the great one) mentioned between Rev 4v1 and 20v3, it's identity is clearly revealed in Rev 11v8 as (the earthly) JERUSALEM!
The only other mention of "the great city" (KJV) ("the holy city" in RSV) is in Rev 21v10 and it clearly states there that that is referring to the HEAVENLY Jerusalem! ("descending out of heaven from God.")
Why on earth do you twist Scripture to mean something that it just doesn't mean?
You're simply being DISHONEST!
The only other mention of "the great city" (KJV) ("the holy city" in RSV) is in Rev 21v10 and it clearly states there that that is referring to the HEAVENLY Jerusalem! ("descending out of heaven from God.")
Why on earth do you twist Scripture to mean something that it just doesn't mean?
You're simply being DISHONEST!
E
I am not twisting scripture
You just gave me your opinion. You have no fact which to base that opinion on.
The fact is, Jerusalem has zero of the characteristics of the ciry in rev 17. So it must be interpreted in context.
Jerusalem is the cty which will be restored. Not destroyed. When jesus returns..
It is already in ruins today, the temple is not there, and it is an ungodly city.. The desolation of daniel 9 continues till this day.
Now, please stop your boasting and thinking you know it all.. And stop judging, I do not just say this to say it, I have studied it for many years.
Jerusalem fits clearly rev 11. It does not fit rev 21, Plain and simple. if we just open our eyes and look.
You just gave me your opinion. You have no fact which to base that opinion on.
The fact is, Jerusalem has zero of the characteristics of the ciry in rev 17. So it must be interpreted in context.
Jerusalem is the cty which will be restored. Not destroyed. When jesus returns..
It is already in ruins today, the temple is not there, and it is an ungodly city.. The desolation of daniel 9 continues till this day.
Now, please stop your boasting and thinking you know it all.. And stop judging, I do not just say this to say it, I have studied it for many years.
Jerusalem fits clearly rev 11. It does not fit rev 21, Plain and simple. if we just open our eyes and look.
A simple reminder, debating has it's purpose but if we begin to speak to each other in a non Christ like manner then the debate has lost it's value, also debating is not simple arguing if there is nothing that can be learned or gained from it then there is no point
Titus3:9
But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless
Proverbs 15:18 18 A hot-tempered man stirs up dissension, but a patient man calms a quarrel.
Psalm 4:4 4 In your anger do not sin; when you are on your beds, search your hearts and be silent. "Selah"
Proverbs 20:3 3 It is to a man's honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel.
Titus3:9
But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless
Proverbs 15:18 18 A hot-tempered man stirs up dissension, but a patient man calms a quarrel.
Psalm 4:4 4 In your anger do not sin; when you are on your beds, search your hearts and be silent. "Selah"
Proverbs 20:3 3 It is to a man's honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel.
The war against the saints started long ago by all the lies from the father of lies, as many saints have already been overcome by false doctrine of the world and are also in bed with the ways of the world thus leaving their first love and playing the Harlot. The 10 kings along with the global beast come after the harlot religious system. We saw this type of persecution happen before with the Jews, but it will also come after the Gentiles as it is written tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that does evil, first to the Jew, then to the Nations.
We see the stage is already getting set for this with the Nations of the world coming together united to fight extremist religion in ISIS, but this hatred will also expand into persecution of Christians who have played the Harlot as well. The nakedness of false Christianity has already been exposed with the hypocrites who swear falsely by the Lords name and do all sorts of abominations like child molestation and such. Exposing all these sins by news media is also what is meant by the kings of the earth exposing her nakedness=sins.
But next comes the burning part of the harlot religious system, but also the war against the Lamb and the remnant of the woman's seed (Heavenly Jerusalem and true Christians) will take place at this time as well. After this final battle against the Lamb takes place the fall of all the Kingdoms of the earth will take place, and all the Kingdoms of this world will become the Kingdoms of our God and His Christ.
Another way to prove the fall is global is in the King of Babylons dream, notice this part....
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."
Notice all the Kingdoms were broken and no place was found for them when the Stone (The Word of God) smites the earth in the latter kingdom. Confirmed in Daniels interpretation....
Daniel 2:36-45[SUP]36 [/SUP]This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure."
The 10 toes represent the 10 kings, and so by this testimony above we know all the kingdoms of the world will come crashing down when the latter kingdom is come to fullness. The head bone is connected to the neck bone, the neck bone is connected to the shoulder bone, the shoulder is connected to the breast bone, the breast bone is connected to the back bone, the back bone is connected to the hip bone, the hip bone is connected to the leg bone, and the leg bone is connected to the feet bone, and the feet bone is connected to the toe bones. And the whole body will come tumbling down.
We see the stage is already getting set for this with the Nations of the world coming together united to fight extremist religion in ISIS, but this hatred will also expand into persecution of Christians who have played the Harlot as well. The nakedness of false Christianity has already been exposed with the hypocrites who swear falsely by the Lords name and do all sorts of abominations like child molestation and such. Exposing all these sins by news media is also what is meant by the kings of the earth exposing her nakedness=sins.
But next comes the burning part of the harlot religious system, but also the war against the Lamb and the remnant of the woman's seed (Heavenly Jerusalem and true Christians) will take place at this time as well. After this final battle against the Lamb takes place the fall of all the Kingdoms of the earth will take place, and all the Kingdoms of this world will become the Kingdoms of our God and His Christ.
Another way to prove the fall is global is in the King of Babylons dream, notice this part....
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."
Notice all the Kingdoms were broken and no place was found for them when the Stone (The Word of God) smites the earth in the latter kingdom. Confirmed in Daniels interpretation....
Daniel 2:36-45[SUP]36 [/SUP]This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure."
The 10 toes represent the 10 kings, and so by this testimony above we know all the kingdoms of the world will come crashing down when the latter kingdom is come to fullness. The head bone is connected to the neck bone, the neck bone is connected to the shoulder bone, the shoulder is connected to the breast bone, the breast bone is connected to the back bone, the back bone is connected to the hip bone, the hip bone is connected to the leg bone, and the leg bone is connected to the feet bone, and the feet bone is connected to the toe bones. And the whole body will come tumbling down.
K
The war against the saints started long ago by all the lies from the father of lies, as many saints have already been overcome by false doctrine of the world and are also in bed with the ways of the world thus leaving their first love and playing the Harlot. The 10 kings along with the global beast come after the harlot religious system. We saw this type of persecution happen before with the Jews, but it will also come after the Gentiles as it is written tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that does evil, first to the Jew, then to the Nations.
We see the stage is already getting set for this with the Nations of the world coming together united to fight extremist religion in ISIS, but this hatred will also expand into persecution of Christians who have played the Harlot as well. The nakedness of false Christianity has already been exposed with the hypocrites who swear falsely by the Lords name and do all sorts of abominations like child molestation and such. Exposing all these sins by news media is also what is meant by the kings of the earth exposing her nakedness=sins.
But next comes the burning part of the harlot religious system, but also the war against the Lamb and the remnant of the woman's seed (Heavenly Jerusalem and true Christians) will take place at this time as well. After this final battle against the Lamb takes place the fall of all the Kingdoms of the earth will take place, and all the Kingdoms of this world will become the Kingdoms of our God and His Christ.
Another way to prove the fall is global is in the King of Babylons dream, notice this part....
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."
Notice all the Kingdoms were broken and no place was found for them when the Stone (The Word of God) smites the earth in the latter kingdom. Confirmed in Daniels interpretation....
Daniel 2:36-45[SUP]36 [/SUP]This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure."
The 10 toes represent the 10 kings, and so by this testimony above we know all the kingdoms of the world will come crashing down when the latter kingdom is come to fullness. The head bone is connected to the neck bone, the neck bone is connected to the shoulder bone, the shoulder is connected to the breast bone, the breast bone is connected to the back bone, the back bone is connected to the hip bone, the hip bone is connected to the leg bone, and the leg bone is connected to the feet bone, and the feet bone is connected to the toe bones. And the whole body will come tumbling down.
We see the stage is already getting set for this with the Nations of the world coming together united to fight extremist religion in ISIS, but this hatred will also expand into persecution of Christians who have played the Harlot as well. The nakedness of false Christianity has already been exposed with the hypocrites who swear falsely by the Lords name and do all sorts of abominations like child molestation and such. Exposing all these sins by news media is also what is meant by the kings of the earth exposing her nakedness=sins.
But next comes the burning part of the harlot religious system, but also the war against the Lamb and the remnant of the woman's seed (Heavenly Jerusalem and true Christians) will take place at this time as well. After this final battle against the Lamb takes place the fall of all the Kingdoms of the earth will take place, and all the Kingdoms of this world will become the Kingdoms of our God and His Christ.
Another way to prove the fall is global is in the King of Babylons dream, notice this part....
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."
Notice all the Kingdoms were broken and no place was found for them when the Stone (The Word of God) smites the earth in the latter kingdom. Confirmed in Daniels interpretation....
Daniel 2:36-45[SUP]36 [/SUP]This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure."
The 10 toes represent the 10 kings, and so by this testimony above we know all the kingdoms of the world will come crashing down when the latter kingdom is come to fullness. The head bone is connected to the neck bone, the neck bone is connected to the shoulder bone, the shoulder is connected to the breast bone, the breast bone is connected to the back bone, the back bone is connected to the hip bone, the hip bone is connected to the leg bone, and the leg bone is connected to the feet bone, and the feet bone is connected to the toe bones. And the whole body will come tumbling down.
I only see one group doing that, America is not, Catholics are not.
Only Muslim radical terrorist groups such as ISIS is doing this.
Do you know that their Quran coming of their supposed savior and prophet mirrors that of the beast and false prophet of our word of God ???
Also did you know Chi Stigma Xi translated as 666 in our bibles is also an almost exact match to "in the name of Allah" on the head and arm bands of ISIS ???
The only difference is stigma is turned sideways.
Muslims are beheading Muslims as well, Jews are shooting Muslims, Muslims are stabbing Jews, and so-called Christians are blowing Muslims up with air strikes. I would say the US has killed far more Muslims with air strikes than Christians have been beheaded by Muslims recently. People are killing people no matter the faith or lack thereof, violence and blood shed has become the norm in this world; which is also a sign of the end "as it was in the days of Noah."
The RCC has plenty of blood on it's hands as well, but the harlot religious system contains all those who swear falsely by the Lords name. Falsely=Hypocrites who has caused the Holy name of the Lord to be profaned and blasphemed among the nations of the world. When it happens you'll know it, the hatred by way of propaganda against Christians has already begun, even stronger now with the gay marriage agenda being forced on people.
And like I told you before the mark of the beast is an inward mark (sin nature) and spirit working in mankind which causes him to conform the image of his father the devil, being a natural brute beast. Just as God's seal in the forehead is also of His Spirit, which causes us to be transformed into the inward image of His Son.
I can confirm sin as a mark by scripture, but you can't confirm your point by scripture, so who to believe?
Job 7:20
I have sinned; what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men? why hast thou set me as a mark against thee, so that I am a burden to myself?
Job 10:14
If I sin, then thou markest me, and thou wilt not acquit me from mine iniquity.
The RCC has plenty of blood on it's hands as well, but the harlot religious system contains all those who swear falsely by the Lords name. Falsely=Hypocrites who has caused the Holy name of the Lord to be profaned and blasphemed among the nations of the world. When it happens you'll know it, the hatred by way of propaganda against Christians has already begun, even stronger now with the gay marriage agenda being forced on people.
And like I told you before the mark of the beast is an inward mark (sin nature) and spirit working in mankind which causes him to conform the image of his father the devil, being a natural brute beast. Just as God's seal in the forehead is also of His Spirit, which causes us to be transformed into the inward image of His Son.
I can confirm sin as a mark by scripture, but you can't confirm your point by scripture, so who to believe?
Job 7:20
I have sinned; what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men? why hast thou set me as a mark against thee, so that I am a burden to myself?
Job 10:14
If I sin, then thou markest me, and thou wilt not acquit me from mine iniquity.
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Per Matt.24:23-26, which is about the coming pseudo-Christ that will place the abomination Jesus spoke of there, who do you think the orthodox unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem will bow to, since that one is coming as Messiah? Let's hope that they wake up when that pseudo-Christ places the "image of the beast" and demands all worship it or be killed.
Rev 11:7
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
KJV
Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
KJV
Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV