New Analysis Dates Shroud of Turin to the First Century
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When was Jesus' blood type ascertained, by whom, and how? .
Also, Ron Wyatt is said to have found the ark of the covenant in a cave beneath Golgotha and the blood from the crucifixion ran down a crack in the mountain after the earthquake and dripped onto the mercy seat of the ark. He had that tested as well.
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There are many excellent used books available that can be had for less than 5 with free shipping. Some go back to the research that started in 1977 and others all the way up to recent with the latest evidence and findings. They cover so much information about more than any of us could think to ask. The photo sections are a big bonus.
Some researchers explain how the thought it had to be a fake or forgery before they started their analysis. Then they could not deny the authenticity of the Shroud through the features they discovered within the image and the cloth. The evidence is overwhelming and extremely well documented in the books.
One of their findings has to do with the Church fire that damaged the Shroud in 1532. The Shroud was folded in a silver container that partially melted and scorched the edges of the folds. Miraculously the image itself was left intact with the scorched cloth right against it in places. This is one of the greatest proofs that it cannot be a forgery or manmade because the image was not affected by the heat. If any organic material had been used to create the image, it would have been affected by the heat.
So although the fire that damaged the Shroud is sad, it also helps confirm it's authenticity through how it reacted to the extreme heat.
Some researchers explain how the thought it had to be a fake or forgery before they started their analysis. Then they could not deny the authenticity of the Shroud through the features they discovered within the image and the cloth. The evidence is overwhelming and extremely well documented in the books.
One of their findings has to do with the Church fire that damaged the Shroud in 1532. The Shroud was folded in a silver container that partially melted and scorched the edges of the folds. Miraculously the image itself was left intact with the scorched cloth right against it in places. This is one of the greatest proofs that it cannot be a forgery or manmade because the image was not affected by the heat. If any organic material had been used to create the image, it would have been affected by the heat.
So although the fire that damaged the Shroud is sad, it also helps confirm it's authenticity through how it reacted to the extreme heat.
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I would add this is a fascinating story, it is amazing all the various ways in which they investigated this shroud from a forensic viewpoint. It reminds me of the Lord's word:
John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
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Additionally, they doused the Shroud with water to save it. This also affects carbon dating since the water during the fire can change carbon dating results. The books explain these many details. The people who still believe the Shroud to be a fake or some forgery that man is capable of, have not studied the evidence that is available and well documented by many researchers.
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That is too easy, the Sudarium of Oviedo, cloth has been dated to around 700 AD by radiocarbon dating. Years ago, I published a paper about Eucharistic Miracles on Catholic Answers Fourm. It showed by quoting primary souces that the blood types for them did not Match, some were A others O, not even the should had type B on it, none AB. Since then, Catholic Editors had been in the process of making them all type AB. History still shows beyond doubt that type AB is only about a thousand years old as what showed in my last post here.
If I were catholic, I would use https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/888938/
how do these images compare https://www.jstor.org/stable/29542944
When was Jesus' blood type ascertained, by whom, and how? .
As shown, the shroud has been contaminated with DNA from plants that can be found all over the world. Similarly, their analysis of human DNA showed haplogroups from people originating in Europe, south Asia, eastern Africa, and the Middle East. So, what does this mean?
It's hard to say. According to legend, the shroud moved around quite a bit, from Jerusalem to Turkey to France and to its final resting place in Turin, Italy. The DNA evidence confirms that many different people, from many different places, got their hands on or near the shroud.
What still remains unclear is the shroud's origin. The DNA evidence is consistent with more than one explanation: (1) The shroud really did originate in Israel and traveled extensively before making its way to Italy, or (2) The shroud was created in medieval Europe, but worshipers (and plants) from all over the world that made their way to Europe contaminated it. The authors cannot rule out either explanation. (Intriguingly, the authors suggested that the DNA evidence linked to people from India hints that the shroud may have been weaved there.)
For now, despite this rich new body of evidence, it seems the Shroud of Turin will remain shrouded in mystery.
Source: Gianni Barcaccia, Giulio Galla, Alessandro Achilli, Anna Olivieri & Antonio Torroni. "Uncovering the sources of DNA found on the Turin Shroud." Scientific Reports 5, Article number: 14484. Published online: 5-Oct-2015. doi:10.1038/srep14484
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They found that if one examined all the bloodstains on the shroud together, "you realize these cannot be real bloodstains from a person who was crucified and then put into a grave, but actually handmade by the artist that created the shroud,"study lead author Matteo Borrini, a forensic anthropologist at Liverpool John Moores University in England, told Live Science.
For instance, two short rivulets of the blood on the back of the left hand of the shroud are only consistent with a person standing with their arms held at a 45-degree angle. In contrast, the forearm bloodstains found on the shroud match a person standing with their arms held nearly vertically. A person couldn't be in these two positions at once.
The scientists did find that the bloodstains on the front of the chest did match those from a spear wound. However, the stains on the lower back — which supposedly came from the spear wound while the body was positioned on its back — were completely unrealistic, they said.
"If you look at the bloodstains as a whole, just as you would when working at a crime scene, you realize they contradict each other," Borrini said. "That points to the artificial origin of these stains."
All in all, this research shows "how we can apply forensic techniques not only to new forensic cases, but also to ancient mysteries," Borrini said.
The scientists detailed their findings online July 10 in the Journal of Forensic Sciences." https://www.livescience.com/63093-shroud-of-turin-is-fake-bloodstains.html
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They found that if one examined all the bloodstains on the shroud together, "you realize these cannot be real bloodstains from a person who was crucified and then put into a grave, but actually handmade by the artist that created the shroud,"study lead author Matteo Borrini, a forensic anthropologist at Liverpool John Moores University in England, told Live Science.
For instance, two short rivulets of the blood on the back of the left hand of the shroud are only consistent with a person standing with their arms held at a 45-degree angle. In contrast, the forearm bloodstains found on the shroud match a person standing with their arms held nearly vertically. A person couldn't be in these two positions at once.
The scientists did find that the bloodstains on the front of the chest did match those from a spear wound. However, the stains on the lower back — which supposedly came from the spear wound while the body was positioned on its back — were completely unrealistic, they said.
"If you look at the bloodstains as a whole, just as you would when working at a crime scene, you realize they contradict each other," Borrini said. "That points to the artificial origin of these stains."
All in all, this research shows "how we can apply forensic techniques not only to new forensic cases, but also to ancient mysteries," Borrini said.
The scientists detailed their findings online July 10 in the Journal of Forensic Sciences." https://www.livescience.com/63093-shroud-of-turin-is-fake-bloodstains.html
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https://www.researchgate.net/public..._the_sources_of_DNA_found_on_the_Turin_Shroud
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...er-study-carbon-dating-debunked-a8450101.html
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015NatSR...514484B/abstract
https://www.researchgate.net/public..._the_sources_of_DNA_found_on_the_Turin_Shroud
https://www.medieval.eu/new-scientific-studies-dna-turin-shroud-agenda/