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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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Truth be told!!!
If you are NOT aware of these FACTS from your NEWS SOURCES - it's more than PAST TIME to question your sources of information!!!
From someone who is currently on Furlough!!

Speaker Mike Johnson
Facts are stubborn things:
Here are the differences between what Republicans passed out of the House and what Democrats are demanding in order to reopen the government.
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Comey is only the first Domino!!!
You might wanna be sitting down when the rest of the Domino’s begin to fall!!!

Donald Trump For President
BREAKING: Devin Nunes just appeared on Fox and CONFIRMED that there is a FULL INVESTIGATION undergoing on Comey and MORE CHARGES are to be expected!
HUGE!
He's hinting to Comey being the FIRST DOMINO to tumble that will UNRAVEL the decades long SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY against President Trump!
"I think you’re beginning to see real clear clairvoyance on what happened between 2016 all the way to the Mar-a-Lago raid."
"Why was Jack Smith appointed to go after Trump in 22? Who decided to raid Mar-a-Lago? What documents were today looking for?"
"I think that’s where the investigators need to start, from there and go back."
"This has been a CONSPIRACY to WEAPONIZE the U.S. Intelligence agencies against the MOST POPULAR Republican since Ronald Reagan, and that is President Trump."
This part is HUGE!
"The President’s made me chair of his Intelligence Board. We are working to help declassify where we can all the information that you now are seeing come out."

It's time to start PERP WALKING everyone involved, START WITH COMEY!
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From what I understand, the story about Tim Walz/Hegseth actually began as left-wing propaganda that was meant to aggravate veterans; because there was, in fact, no stolen valor. And J.D. Vance probably never should have suggested there was.

The Left complained about not having enough immigration judges under the Biden Administration... problem solved. And then once the surge is dealt with; there won't be an excess of judges who might have to worry about getting their position cut.
 
From what I understand, the story about Tim Walz/Hegseth actually began as left-wing propaganda that was meant to aggravate veterans; because there was, in fact, no stolen valor. And J.D. Vance probably never should have suggested there was.
Ya... It's hard to know who and what to believe during an epic information warfare... These claims echo "swiftboating" tactics from past elections (e.g., John Kerry in 2004). The debate highlights partisan divides: conservatives see embellishment for political gain, while Democrats view it as overblown attacks on legitimate service.
If not 'stolen valor' on a debatable technicality - his credibility certainly comes into question with his embellished claims of carrying weapons in war and lying about his retirement rank...
Overview of Stolen Valor Claims Against Tim Walz
Tim Walz, the Governor of Minnesota and Democratic vice-presidential nominee, served 24 years in the Army National Guard, enlisting at age 17 in Nebraska before transferring to Minnesota. He received an honorable discharge in 2005 and has often highlighted his service in political campaigns, including deployments to Italy in 2003 (in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan) and the Arctic Circle in Norway. Stolen valor refers to falsely claiming military honors, decorations, or experiences, often for personal gain. Claims against Walz, amplified by Republicans like Sen. JD Vance and former members of his unit, surged after his VP selection in August 2024. These primarily focus on three areas: his 2005 retirement timing, his rank, and statements implying combat service. While critics label these as "stolen valor," fact-checkers and many veterans argue they do not meet that threshold but acknowledge some misrepresentations.

1. Retirement Timing: Accusations of Abandoning His Unit to Avoid Iraq Deployment
Basis of the Claim: Critics allege Walz retired strategically to dodge a deployment to Iraq, leaving his unit (1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery) short-handed and betraying his comrades. This originated in a 2018 open letter from two retired Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Majors, Thomas Behrends and Paul Herr, who accused Walz of "quitting" after reenlisting post-9/11 and failing to fulfill his commitment when "the nation called." They claimed he subverted the chain of command by bypassing his superior (Command Sgt. Maj. Doug Julin) to secure retirement approval, knowing deployment discussions were underway. Vance echoed this in August 2024, saying Walz "dropped out of the Army" when asked to go to Iraq, calling it "shameful." Other veterans, like retired Lt. Col. John Kolb (Walz's former battalion commander) and Kathy Miller (mother of a soldier killed in Iraq from the unit), described it as the "coward's way out" and an "affront," noting two soldiers from the battalion died in IED attacks during the 2006-2008 deployment.

Evidence Cited by Critics:
Walz submitted retirement paperwork in late 2004 or early 2005, retiring on May 16, 2005.
  • A March 17, 2005, National Guard announcement warned of possible mobilization of ~2,000 Minnesota troops, including parts of Walz's battalion, for Iraq within two years; unit meetings discussed deployment risks months earlier.
  • Official alert order came July 14, 2005 (post-retirement), with mobilization in October 2005 and deployment in March 2006 for 22 months.
  • Behrends, who replaced Walz in the unit and deployed to Iraq, called him a "traitor" in 2024 interviews.

Counterarguments and Fact-Checks: Walz's defenders, including fellow Guardsmen like Allan Bonnifield and Joseph Eustice (a 32-year veteran from the unit), say he submitted papers 5-7 months before retirement to pursue a congressional run (filing FEC paperwork February 10, 2005) and weighed the decision heavily amid rumors, not confirmed orders. The March 2005 notice was for a possible deployment over two years, with no official orders until after his exit; Minnesota National Guard spokesperson Lt. Col. Kristen Augé confirmed no unofficial orders existed. PolitiFact rated Vance's claim "Mostly False" for distorting the timeline. Veterans investigating stolen valor claims, per The New York Times, do not view this as stolen valor, as Walz did not falsely claim deployment but retired honorably.

2. Rank Misrepresentation: Claiming "Retired Command Sergeant Major" Status
Basis of the Claim: Walz has referred to himself as a "retired Command Sergeant Major" (E-9 rank, the highest enlisted level), but critics say he never earned it fully, retiring instead as a Master Sergeant (E-8) to preserve benefits after failing requirements. The 2018 Behrends-Herr letter accused him of "embellishing" by omitting that he dropped out of the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy and didn't serve the required two years post-promotion. In a 2009 video, then-Congressman Walz introduced himself as a "retired Command Sergeant Major" to deploying soldiers. Vance and Rep. Hung Cao (Navy veteran) called this "blatant lies" and an "affront to the Noncommissioned Officer Corps." Kolb added that Walz was "frocked" (temporarily wore the rank) but didn't complete the role competently.

Evidence Cited by Critics:
  • Promoted to CSM in 2004 during Italy deployment but retired May 16, 2005, as MSG per official papers.
  • No completion of Sergeants Major Academy coursework or two-year service post-promotion.
  • Repeated use in bios, speeches, and a 2009 farewell address.
Counterarguments and Fact-Checks: Walz served as CSM for his battalion (highest enlisted in Congress at the time), but retired as MSG for pension reasons. The Harris campaign updated its bio in August 2024 from "retired Command Sergeant Major" to "retired as a Master Sergeant after serving as a Command Sergeant Major." Augé confirmed it's "legitimate" to say he served as CSM, though not "retired" at that rank. Fact-checkers like PBS and NPR note this as a technicality, not intentional fraud, and not stolen valor since no false decorations were claimed.

3. Implying Combat Experience: "Carried Weapons in War" and "Operation Enduring Freedom Veteran"
Basis of the Claim: A 2018 video resurfaced where Walz, advocating gun control, said: "We can make sure those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons are at." Critics, including Vance and an anonymous former Guardsman, call this "absolutely false" stolen valor, as Walz never served in a combat zone. CNN fact-checked it similarly. Additionally, a 2004 protest sign and 2006 bio labeled him an "Operation Enduring Freedom Veteran," implying Afghanistan combat to non-veterans; a 2009 video shows a veteran confronting a Walz staffer over it. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (Army veteran) accused him of falsely claiming he "went to war" and being a "coward." Iraq veteran Peter Meijer called it "true but misleading," as OEF was support in Italy, not Afghanistan.

Evidence Cited by Critics:
  • No combat-zone service; 2003 Italy deployment was administrative support.
  • 2004 sign: "Operation Enduring Freedom Veteran 4 Kerry."
  • Staffer in 2009 video admitted the bio phrasing could mislead into assuming Afghanistan deployment.
  • Walz later said he "misspoke" on the weapons quote.
Counterarguments and Fact-Checks: The Harris campaign clarified Walz "misspoke" in the heat of a gun-violence discussion, referring to training with assault weapons during his career, not literal war carry. He handled, fired, and trained others on such weapons "innumerable times." On OEF, it's accurate (Italy supported OEF), but phrasing was vague; the campaign scrubbed related website claims. NPR and PBS rated this as poor wording, not deliberate fraud. Four stolen-valor investigators told The New York Times it's not stolen valor but "misrepresentation at times," as Walz never claimed specific medals or combat tours falsely.
 
Ya... It's hard to know who and what to believe during an epic information warfare... These claims echo "swiftboating" tactics from past elections (e.g., John Kerry in 2004). The debate highlights partisan divides: conservatives see embellishment for political gain, while Democrats view it as overblown attacks on legitimate service.
If not 'stolen valor' on a debatable technicality - his credibility certainly comes into question with his embellished claims of carrying weapons in war and lying about his retirement rank...
Overview of Stolen Valor Claims Against Tim Walz
Tim Walz, the Governor of Minnesota and Democratic vice-presidential nominee, served 24 years in the Army National Guard, enlisting at age 17 in Nebraska before transferring to Minnesota. He received an honorable discharge in 2005 and has often highlighted his service in political campaigns, including deployments to Italy in 2003 (in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan) and the Arctic Circle in Norway. Stolen valor refers to falsely claiming military honors, decorations, or experiences, often for personal gain. Claims against Walz, amplified by Republicans like Sen. JD Vance and former members of his unit, surged after his VP selection in August 2024. These primarily focus on three areas: his 2005 retirement timing, his rank, and statements implying combat service. While critics label these as "stolen valor," fact-checkers and many veterans argue they do not meet that threshold but acknowledge some misrepresentations.

1. Retirement Timing: Accusations of Abandoning His Unit to Avoid Iraq Deployment
Basis of the Claim: Critics allege Walz retired strategically to dodge a deployment to Iraq, leaving his unit (1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery) short-handed and betraying his comrades. This originated in a 2018 open letter from two retired Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Majors, Thomas Behrends and Paul Herr, who accused Walz of "quitting" after reenlisting post-9/11 and failing to fulfill his commitment when "the nation called." They claimed he subverted the chain of command by bypassing his superior (Command Sgt. Maj. Doug Julin) to secure retirement approval, knowing deployment discussions were underway. Vance echoed this in August 2024, saying Walz "dropped out of the Army" when asked to go to Iraq, calling it "shameful." Other veterans, like retired Lt. Col. John Kolb (Walz's former battalion commander) and Kathy Miller (mother of a soldier killed in Iraq from the unit), described it as the "coward's way out" and an "affront," noting two soldiers from the battalion died in IED attacks during the 2006-2008 deployment.

Evidence Cited by Critics:
Walz submitted retirement paperwork in late 2004 or early 2005, retiring on May 16, 2005.
  • A March 17, 2005, National Guard announcement warned of possible mobilization of ~2,000 Minnesota troops, including parts of Walz's battalion, for Iraq within two years; unit meetings discussed deployment risks months earlier.
  • Official alert order came July 14, 2005 (post-retirement), with mobilization in October 2005 and deployment in March 2006 for 22 months.
  • Behrends, who replaced Walz in the unit and deployed to Iraq, called him a "traitor" in 2024 interviews.

Counterarguments and Fact-Checks: Walz's defenders, including fellow Guardsmen like Allan Bonnifield and Joseph Eustice (a 32-year veteran from the unit), say he submitted papers 5-7 months before retirement to pursue a congressional run (filing FEC paperwork February 10, 2005) and weighed the decision heavily amid rumors, not confirmed orders. The March 2005 notice was for a possible deployment over two years, with no official orders until after his exit; Minnesota National Guard spokesperson Lt. Col. Kristen Augé confirmed no unofficial orders existed. PolitiFact rated Vance's claim "Mostly False" for distorting the timeline. Veterans investigating stolen valor claims, per The New York Times, do not view this as stolen valor, as Walz did not falsely claim deployment but retired honorably.

2. Rank Misrepresentation: Claiming "Retired Command Sergeant Major" Status
Basis of the Claim: Walz has referred to himself as a "retired Command Sergeant Major" (E-9 rank, the highest enlisted level), but critics say he never earned it fully, retiring instead as a Master Sergeant (E-8) to preserve benefits after failing requirements. The 2018 Behrends-Herr letter accused him of "embellishing" by omitting that he dropped out of the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy and didn't serve the required two years post-promotion. In a 2009 video, then-Congressman Walz introduced himself as a "retired Command Sergeant Major" to deploying soldiers. Vance and Rep. Hung Cao (Navy veteran) called this "blatant lies" and an "affront to the Noncommissioned Officer Corps." Kolb added that Walz was "frocked" (temporarily wore the rank) but didn't complete the role competently.

Evidence Cited by Critics:
  • Promoted to CSM in 2004 during Italy deployment but retired May 16, 2005, as MSG per official papers.
  • No completion of Sergeants Major Academy coursework or two-year service post-promotion.
  • Repeated use in bios, speeches, and a 2009 farewell address.
Counterarguments and Fact-Checks: Walz served as CSM for his battalion (highest enlisted in Congress at the time), but retired as MSG for pension reasons. The Harris campaign updated its bio in August 2024 from "retired Command Sergeant Major" to "retired as a Master Sergeant after serving as a Command Sergeant Major." Augé confirmed it's "legitimate" to say he served as CSM, though not "retired" at that rank. Fact-checkers like PBS and NPR note this as a technicality, not intentional fraud, and not stolen valor since no false decorations were claimed.

3. Implying Combat Experience: "Carried Weapons in War" and "Operation Enduring Freedom Veteran"
Basis of the Claim: A 2018 video resurfaced where Walz, advocating gun control, said: "We can make sure those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons are at." Critics, including Vance and an anonymous former Guardsman, call this "absolutely false" stolen valor, as Walz never served in a combat zone. CNN fact-checked it similarly. Additionally, a 2004 protest sign and 2006 bio labeled him an "Operation Enduring Freedom Veteran," implying Afghanistan combat to non-veterans; a 2009 video shows a veteran confronting a Walz staffer over it. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (Army veteran) accused him of falsely claiming he "went to war" and being a "coward." Iraq veteran Peter Meijer called it "true but misleading," as OEF was support in Italy, not Afghanistan.

Evidence Cited by Critics:
  • No combat-zone service; 2003 Italy deployment was administrative support.
  • 2004 sign: "Operation Enduring Freedom Veteran 4 Kerry."
  • Staffer in 2009 video admitted the bio phrasing could mislead into assuming Afghanistan deployment.
  • Walz later said he "misspoke" on the weapons quote.
Counterarguments and Fact-Checks: The Harris campaign clarified Walz "misspoke" in the heat of a gun-violence discussion, referring to training with assault weapons during his career, not literal war carry. He handled, fired, and trained others on such weapons "innumerable times." On OEF, it's accurate (Italy supported OEF), but phrasing was vague; the campaign scrubbed related website claims. NPR and PBS rated this as poor wording, not deliberate fraud. Four stolen-valor investigators told The New York Times it's not stolen valor but "misrepresentation at times," as Walz never claimed specific medals or combat tours falsely.
He apologized, that should be it.
 
He apologized, that should be it.
The dumb part is; he apologized for the wrong thing. War=/=combat zone deployment; there was technically nothing wrong with what he said. Lots of people come back from combat zones intact, while we also had servicemembers at home get gunned down by jihadis in our own ranks. People already like to diminish the GWOT and GWOT veterans enough as it is. He should have doubled down on Vance for making that worse.
 
Wow, 800+ pages. What was the question again? Oh yeah, who killed jfk…. What? Govt coverup?! No way!!!
Yep, lots of Government Conspiracies over the years... No surprise... actually, the existence of the Deep State precedes the JFK assassination...
But this time is different... ;)
Yep, the BIG difference this time than ever before is that this time - the Covert Good Guys have orchestrated "The Great Awakening" phase of operations to help facilitate a means to create conditions for success to once and for all - do something about it and ensure RIGHTEOUS JUSTICE for those who are guilty of Treason and Crimes against Humanity...
This thread has been going strong for over 4 years... lol, there was a previous version that was shutdown by Admin - because it created too much heated debate... But they allowed me to begin a newer version with a different approach...
This version of the thread has essentially served as a historic repository of proofs - that essentially validate that all the "Conspiracy Theories" that were spawn before, during and after the 2020 election the Plandemic and the bogus Mandatory Experimental Vaccine etc, etc...
I've considered re-posting to all the folks that have previously voted on this poll to see what their opinions are now, all these years and proofs later... just another indicator for how popular and relevant this thread has been...
Welcome to the "Turning Point"... pun intended... ;) lots of good conversations and discussions along the way... Enjoy the rest of the show... ;)
Spoiler alert: The Deep State is spiraling and have lost control as they have lost the battle for their all essential Narrative, literally everything that they have attempted over the past 4-5 years has both failed and blowup in their faces...
Where the Great Awakening phase of operations has enabled the Red Wave - the Good Guys now own the White House, Congress, and SCOTUS... This phase is all about OPTICS, EXPOSURE and this Administration going on Offense...
Comey is just the first Domino... stand by for when the rest of the Dominos begin to fall...
God Wins and the meek are in the process of inheriting the earth...
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10.7.25: NOT about R vs D, What IF ROGE ELEMENTS remained?, What if MIL financially starved, 3-letter, Pray!
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“Arctic Frost” is only the tip of this Corrupt Deep State Leftist’s Government Iceberg!!!
Ken Blackwell
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BREAKING: The FBI has confirmed that Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team used a secret investigation called Arctic Frost to track the private calls and communications of nearly a dozen sitting Republican Senators and one Congressman during the January 6 probe.
This was not rumor or speculation.
Internal FBI documents titled Arctic Frost – Election Law Matters – Sensitive Investigative Matter – CAST show that Smith’s investigators conducted “toll analysis” on senators’ phone records.
That means they tracked who they called, when, and how often, without their knowledge.
The senators targeted include:
• Lindsey Graham (R–SC)
• Marsha Blackburn (R–TN)
• Ron Johnson (R–WI)
• Josh Hawley (R–MO)
• Bill Hagerty (R–TN)
• Tommy Tuberville (R–AL)
• Dan Sullivan (R–AK)
• Cynthia Lummis (R–WY)
Each of these senators is now learning that the FBI, under Jack Smith’s direction, was monitoring their phone activity.
So what is Arctic Frost?
It is the FBI’s internal name for a massive investigation launched to supposedly protect “election integrity.”
But Senate oversight documents show it grew far beyond that.
What began as an election law case expanded into a political dragnet that pulled in Republican lawmakers, conservative groups, and state officials who questioned the 2020 election results.
At one point, there were reports of more than 90 Republican-related targets connected to Arctic Frost.
The case was marked as a “Sensitive Investigative Matter,” which means the FBI knew it was politically charged but pushed forward anyway.
That is not about defending democracy.
It is about controlling it.
The Department of Justice claims it is independent, yet it continues to use its power against political opponents.
Crossfire Hurricane.
FISA abuse.
Parents labeled as extremists for speaking at school board meetings.
The raid on Trump’s home.
And now, Arctic Frost.
If the executive branch can secretly spy on the legislative branch, the Constitution is meaningless.
There is no separation of powers when one branch can watch another in secret.
This is an abuse of power worse than Watergate.
Every subpoena, every warrant, and every communication under Arctic Frost must be made public.
Jack Smith should be subpoenaed and questioned under oath immediately.
The American people deserve to know who ordered this, who approved it, and who benefited from it.
If this stands, then political surveillance will become normal in the United States.
Once that line is crossed, it will not be easy to uncross.
This is not just a scandal.
It is a warning.

We must stop it now, or we will surrender our freedom to those who believe they are above it.
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Donald Trump For President
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BREAKING: FBI Director Kash Patel exposes that the Deep State HID evidence that Jack Smith spied on 8 GOP senators after the 2020 election in a vault
"You're darn right I fired those agents. You're darn right I blew up CR-15, the public corruption squad...we're just WARMING UP."
"We are running our investigations to the ground. We are finding every single person involved!"
"A LOCKBOX. They put that lockbox in a VAULT, and then put that vault in a cyber place where no one can see or search these files! They're called 'restricted access' and 'prohibited access.'"
"And that takes the authorization of the attorney general and the director of the FBI. So not only did they weaponize this law enforcement, but when we got in there, and when I got in as the FBI director, from my experience as Russiagate, I knew where to look!"
"And what rooms to open and what doors to kick down. And that's what we did. We found this information to expose the politicization by Jack Smith and the prior Department of Justice."
"I mean, just think about it. Eight sitting United States senators' phone records were gathered and subpoenaed through the grand jury process, and it was buried and worm-holed!"
"It was the hope that no one would find it. So we're just scratching the surface here, but accountability is coming."

HT ERIC D
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