No Other Gospel.

[Hann57]

Exactly, and that Gospel remains an elusive Mystery even to this day.

The gospel Paul received from Christ is a mystery to those who

Are you able to explain the Gospel to us? I'm not asking that you write it out, but if you like, you can point us to something that conclusively tells us what the Gospel is.

The gospel for us today is 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4. You must believe it to be saved.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The gospel Paul received from Christ is a mystery to those who

The gospel for us today is 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4. You must believe it to be saved.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Is what you have pasted above the Faith of Abraham?

Romans 4:12 NLT - "And Abraham is also the spiritual father of those who have been circumcised, but only if they have the same kind of faith Abraham had before he was circumcised."

To Understand the Gospel, we must understand how Abraham could be saved (before Christ had died on the cross). This is the same Faith that was granted to all, including Rahab the Prostitute, in Hebrews chapter 11, the "Great Hall of Faith."

If someone could explain Salvation as it was given in the Old Testament . . . that person can [then] claim that they understand the Gospel. I'm not trying to be difficult . . . but rather, just expressing the exact same thoughts from the Bible.

 

[Hann57]

Exactly, and that Gospel remains an elusive Mystery even to this day.

Paul

Is what you have pasted above the Faith of Abraham?

Romans 4:12 NLT - "And Abraham is also the spiritual father of those who have been circumcised, but only if they have the same kind of faith Abraham had before he was circumcised."

To Understand the Gospel, we must understand how Abraham could be saved (before Christ had died on the cross). This is the same Faith that was granted to all, including Rahab the Prostitute, in Hebrews chapter 11, the "Great Hall of Faith."

If someone could explain Salvation as it was given in the Old Testament . . . that person can [then] claim that they understand the Gospel. I'm not trying to be difficult . . . but rather, just expressing the exact same thoughts from the Bible.

Understanding the gospel ? We don't understand why Christ who created all things, who is God would come to die for our sins. But we believe it when we hear it and are saved by believing it. The gospel Abraham believed is not for us. You are not Israel.
Salvation was always by faith. Jews or Gentiles it was and is by grace THROUGH FAITH .
Rom_3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
I received God's grace through faith. Believing Paul Gospel.

 

[Hann57]

Paul

Understanding the gospel ? We don't understand why Christ who created all things, who is God would come to die for our sins. But we believe it when we hear it and are saved by believing it. The gospel Abraham believed is not for us. You are not Israel.
Salvation was always by faith. Jews or Gentiles it was and is by grace THROUGH FAITH .
Rom_3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
I received God's grace through faith. Believing Paul Gospel.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The gospel Abraham believed is not for us. You are not Israel.

I didn't read any further. What does the following verse mean to you?

Ephesians 4:5 KJV - "One Lord, one faith, one baptism . . ."

If there is another way of Salvation, I'm all ears. Thanks in advance for explaining!

Galatians 3:28 CSB - "There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male and female; since you are all one in Christ Jesus."

 

[Nehemiah6]

Folks it has to be the gospel given to Paul by Christ alone for your salvation

The Gospel given to Paul was no different than the Gospel given to all the other apostles. So I'm not sure what your point it. There is only ONE GOSPEL and it has several designations. There is only one Savior, and only one plan of salvation. And there is only name under Heaven given among men whereby we might be saved.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The gospel Paul received FROM CHRIST is the gospel you must believe for salvation. Otherwise you have missed been saved because you want to be right.

This is just nonsense. Long before Paul arrived on the scene, Christ preached the Gospel, and so did Peter, Philip, and all the other apostles. Peter preached to both Jews and Gentiles, and Philip preached to Gentiles also.

So let's get to the heart of the Gospel as stated by Christ Himself (John 3:14-18):
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Why did Jesus introduce the Serpent in the Wilderness? Because just as the only thing the Israelites could do to live was to look upon that Brazen Serpent, so every sinner must simply look to Christ for his or her salvation. Jesus Himself is our Salvation, and that is why His Hebrew name is YESHUA (YAHSHUA = YAH + SHUA = GOD IS [OUR] SALVATION).

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The Gospel given to Paul was no different than the Gospel given to all the other apostles. So I'm not sure what your point it. There is only ONE GOSPEL and it has several designations. There is only one Savior, and only one plan of salvation. And there is only name under Heaven given among men whereby we might be saved.

If a person actually read the ENTIRE Bible, they'd come to the same conclusion. Most are generally unaware of the Old Testament, let alone are able to explain how our Patriarchs could be saved PRIOR to Christ on the cross. Get THAT figured out and THEN a person can say that they understand Salvation.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

This is just nonsense. Long before Paul arrived on the scene, Christ preached the Gospel, and so did Peter, Philip, and all the other apostles. Peter preached to both Jews and Gentiles, and Philip preached to Gentiles also.

So let's get to the heart of the Gospel as stated by Christ Himself (John 3:14-18):
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Why did Jesus introduce the Serpent in the Wilderness? Because just as the only thing the Israelites could do to live was to look upon that Brazen Serpent, so every sinner must simply look to Christ for his or her salvation. Jesus Himself is our Salvation, and that is why His Hebrew name is YESHUA (YAHSHUA = YAH + SHUA = GOD IS [OUR] SALVATION).

Nice. You may remember that Abraham was preached the Gospel of Christ . . . BEFORE Christ had even lived. How is that possible?

Galatians 3:8 KJV - "And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed."

This is why Paul referred to the Gospel as a Mystery. And as I have said many times now, the Gospel is just as much a Mystery to the "church" today as it was to the Sadducees, Pharisees, and teachers of the Law. And I'll go a step further . . . today's modern church is a future reflection of the Sadducees, Pharisees, and teachers of the Law 2000 years. Today's "church" thinks "they" have things all figured out . . . but "they're" not even close.

 

[justbyfaith]

When our apostle Paul received the gospel from Christ he went to the heathen in Arabia.

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

We have limited information about how long and as to what the details are in those areas, but we do know that Paul obeyed the Lord Jesus Christ and preached the gospel in different regions.
The main problem when the gospel is preached is apposition, those who appose the preaching of the cross of Christ.
When Paul wrote to the Galatian church there was not only apposition but among them there were those who were been moved away from the gospel
Paul preached to another gospel.
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Have you ever marvelled at the beauty of creation ? That same creator came from Heaven to this earth and died for our sins.
And that is the gospel I have believed; Christ died for our sins...
God was in Christ
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
What gospel are you trusting today for salvation ?
Paul says if someone comes, even and angel from heaven with another gospel, let them be accursed.
That is serious, because they will dam your souls with another gospel.
Folks it has to be the gospel given to Paul by Christ alone for your salvation ;

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

@Hann57,

Do you believe that Jesus is the Christ?

If not, who is the Christ, in your opinion?

 

[Hann57]

If a person actually read the ENTIRE Bible, they'd come to the same conclusion. Most are generally unaware of the Old Testament, let alone are able to explain how our Patriarchs could be saved PRIOR to Christ on the cross. Get THAT figured out and THEN a person can say that they understand Salvation.

Not here to argue.

 

[Hann57]

I didn't read any further. What does the following verse mean to you?

Ephesians 4:5 KJV - "One Lord, one faith, one baptism . . ."

If there is another way of Salvation, I'm all ears. Thanks in advance for explaining!

Galatians 3:28 CSB - "There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male and female; since you are all one in Christ Jesus."

There is only one gospel for us today. The gospel given to Paul by Christ. 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4. You will not understand scripture if you are not saved.
1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
First you need to believe this gospel. Then we can talk.

 

[John146]

@Hann57,

Do you believe that Jesus is the Christ?

If not, who is the Christ, in your opinion?

Christ meaning the Jewish Messiah?

 

[John146]

Nice. You may remember that Abraham was preached the Gospel of Christ . . . BEFORE Christ had even lived. How is that possible?

Galatians 3:8 KJV - "And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed."

Abraham was taught the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for sin? Or was Abraham taught the good news (gospel) of the promise seed that would come through his loins that would be a blessing to all nations?

 

[Gardenias]

The GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST is found in Matthew,Mark ,Luke, and John,it is about God's love to us fallen humanity and him giving his only son for our redemption.
All the epistles and books of the bible are given for edifying,encouragement and growth in our walk with God.
No man came come to God except through his son Jesus!
There is none greater for Jesus himself said the servant could not be greater than his master.
We are disciples of Jesus',thereby making us the adopted children of God only through Jesus' shed blood!

Furthermore if you are claiming Paul's epistles greater than the Gospel simply BC you are a gentile believer, Paul said there is neither Greek nor Jew ,( aka outside of Jews we are all gentiles).
This doesn't mean he is OUR anything,he was an apostle chosen to preach to the gentiles. A Jew above renown for his obedience to the law and OT.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Not here to argue.

I'm not here for that either. I'm here to share what I know, learn what I don't know, and change that which is in error.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

There is only one gospel for us today. The gospel given to Paul by Christ. 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4. You will not understand scripture if you are not saved.
1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
First you need to believe this gospel. Then we can talk.

The full Gospel of Christ is not only described in Scripture, but it is fully explained. It is our duty to Ask, Seek, and Knock.

Do you feel that I don't understand the entire Gospel, thus allowing us to talk?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Abraham was taught the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for sin?

The Bible does not confirm precisely what He was taught. Paul only tells us that Abraham was taught the Gospel. But because Paul states that the Gospel was kept hidden, by God, as a Mystery . . . I would have to say that the details were kept from us all. But to say that Abraham was taught the Gospel, I would have to conclude that he understood is according to the following details:

The Circumcision of the Messiah
The granting of Repentance from the Messiah
The sending and free Gift of the Holy Spirit by the Messiah
The future death, burial, and Power of the Resurrection of the Messiah that would eventually pay the debt for his sin, thus making himself, Abraham, Right with God

Abraham was taught the Purpose, Work, and Effect of the Messiah . . . a changed Heart.

 

[Hann57]

This is just nonsense. Long before Paul arrived on the scene, Christ preached the Gospel, and so did Peter, Philip, and all the other apostles. Peter preached to both Jews and Gentiles, and Philip preached to Gentiles also.

So let's get to the heart of the Gospel as stated by Christ Himself (John 3:14-18):
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Why did Jesus introduce the Serpent in the Wilderness? Because just as the only thing the Israelites could do to live was to look upon that Brazen Serpent, so every sinner must simply look to Christ for his or her salvation. Jesus Himself is our Salvation, and that is why His Hebrew name is YESHUA (YAHSHUA = YAH + SHUA = GOD IS [OUR] SALVATION).

The full Gospel of Christ is not only described in Scripture, but it is fully explained. It is our duty to Ask, Seek, and Knock.

Do you feel that I don't understand the entire Gospel, thus allowing us to talk?

The full Gospel of Christ is not only described in Scripture, but it is fully explained. It is our duty to Ask, Seek, and Knock.

Do you feel that I don't understand the entire Gospel, thus allowing us to talk?

This is easy to understand. The gospel given to Paul by Christ is the gospel we must believe. 1 Corinthians 15:3,4.

 

[Gideon300]

Are you able to explain the Gospel to us? I'm not asking that you write it out, but if you like, you can point us to something that conclusively tells us what the Gospel is.

Let me have a go. Luke 4:18